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  • 06-10-2020 11:46am
    #1
    Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭


    Must be the single most annoying thing about using the internet lately. Every single website and their odd variation of asking you to accept cookies.. or, also trying to wedge in 'can we send you notifications', as if you'd have any interest.

    Why can it not be assumed that there are certain cookies website require, and people will have no issue with this. If it's anything outside of a set parameter that the website are looking for, then they have to ask.

    (I won't even start on Google's consistent pestering you to sign in..)

    Is there a way around these constant pop-ups. Is there anybody out there doing anything in relation to this?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    There's an add on to Google you can get: I don't care about cookies I think its called.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,543 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    eviltwin wrote: »
    There's an add on to Google you can get: I don't care about cookies I think its called.



    That would make a good T shirt.


  • Registered Users Posts: 157 ✭✭Randle P. McMurphy


    Don't blame the websites. Blame the ****tards who campaigned to get the privacy laws changed. Now you can't go anywhere on the web without this bs. Privacy this...privacy that..blah blah blah. The cnuts ruined it for everyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭Smiles35


    eviltwin wrote: »
    There's an add on to Google you can get: I don't care about cookies I think its called.


    That's not worth trying as every website would have to agree to it. I did try it myself by the way. Did nothing.


    I'm just after copping on that I will have to instal one of those warnings on a website I now run. Never even thought of it.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Smiles35 wrote: »
    I'm just after copping on that I will have to instal one of those warnings on a website I now run. Never even thought of it.




    You absolute bastard! Putting us innocent internet users at risk of cookies we didn't even agree in advance to?! :mad: DIDN'T EVEN AGREE TO!!




    :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Is there a way around these constant pop-ups. Is there anybody out there doing anything in relation to this?
    It's an EU requirement for websites.

    We could leave EU I suppose?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,275 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    You'd think websites would try to get by without cookies but no, they all insist on using a great multitude of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail


    Don't blame the websites. Blame the ****tards who campaigned to get the privacy laws changed. Now you can't go anywhere on the web without this bs. Privacy this...privacy that..blah blah blah. The cnuts ruined it for everyone.
    Why would you blame privacy campaigners for ****ty laws? Blame the legislators who made a broken privacy law that doesn't stop facebook from basically tracking your every move and selling the data, while simultaneously leaving companies hide behind the magical GDPR whenever it suits them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,208 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Blame GDPR.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭Lmao_Man


    Blame GDPR.

    It’s nothing got to do with GDPR. GDPR was years after the cookie laws.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭charlietheminxx


    Lmao_Man wrote: »
    It’s nothing got to do with GDPR. GDPR was years after the cookie laws.

    That's not quite right, cookie notice requirements have recently been updated in line with GDPR and come into force this week - that's why there are more complex pop-up banners everywhere. They're a pain.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 253 ✭✭Xtrail14


    Take it up the bottom


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,613 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop




  • Registered Users Posts: 468 ✭✭1990sman


    is there a Cookie Conspiracy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭markfinn


    Keep in mind that the current state of play is "malicious compliance" with the letter of the law.
    Basically advertising scum making online experience worse for everyone in hopes that it'll annoy enough people into pressuring for revocation of laws, thereby allowing the bastards to make your phone listen for noises made by adverts in your browser so they can then permanently associate that browser with you.

    The proper implementation of the requirements is to just not include cookies which are not necessary for the website. If the only cookies on the site are required for the users desired interactions with the website then no notice need be shown.

    TLDR: Those notices and the nonsense behind them is deliberately annoying to try and force deregulation and allow eradication of online privacy by the advertisers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,208 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Lmao_Man wrote: »
    It’s nothing got to do with GDPR. GDPR was years after the cookie laws.

    Are you sure there mate?

    I mean if you bothered to Google before you posted that...

    Here's a hint: may 2018.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    It's even more annoying than videos autoplaying with audio, and those Google AMP pages that bring you to a cached version of the website you actually want to visit.

    Web designers should be rounded up and shot. We can start again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭markfinn


    It's even more annoying than videos autoplaying with audio, and those Google AMP pages that bring you to a cached version of the website you actually want to visit.

    Web designers should be rounded up and shot. We can start again.

    If you shoot the web designers the advertisers will just find new (and worse) ones.

    Shoot all advertisers. On sight.
    If they were real people they'd have done it themselves when they realised they were advertisers.

    Yes, that does include anyone claiming to be in "marketing".


  • Registered Users Posts: 630 ✭✭✭COVID


    Blame GDPR.

    I blame the Stasi in the old GDR.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,465 ✭✭✭MOH


    Don't blame the websites. Blame the ****tards who campaigned to get the privacy laws changed. Now you can't go anywhere on the web without this bs. Privacy this...privacy that..blah blah blah. The cnuts ruined it for everyone.

    No, blame the scumbag advertisers who turned the internet into a race to the bottom and click-whoring, along with all the tracking that goes with that.

    Simpler solution would just be ban all advertising and move on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    Most websites rely on ads to pay the bill,s ,so they want to put a cookie on
    your pc to remember user x visited this website.

    https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/61416?co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid&hl=en

    you can delete cookies and delete your browsing history.
    Websites need to be able to say we had x no of users visiting our website today, or this week, to be able to set a rate for serving ads.
    You can go to browser settings and switch off video,animation, and graphics ,
    and websites will just show up as text and links .
    the problem is the politicans who make the laws are not tech experts .
    They just think we need more privacy options for users.https://proprivacy.com/ruinmysearchhistory/how-to-block-cookies

    https://www.theverge.com/2020/9/3/21420176/apple-ios-14-tracking-permission-rule-developers-delay

    I dont see any easy solution to this problem as most websites rely on ads to survive,
    i,m not going to pay a fee or a subscription to view a website if i only read a few articles
    on some news website every week.
    i don,t think theres any chance of the eu cancelling or changing the gdpr rule no matter what advertisers or tech companys say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,338 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    cookies!

    200.gif


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    Are you sure there mate?

    I mean if you bothered to Google before you posted that...

    Here's a hint: may 2018.

    Cookie laws preceded GDPR by many years, GDPR required consent in the absence of any other legal basis though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭smellyoldboot


    Your mother accepts cookies.









    For blowjobs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,858 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    There should be a single question when you turn on your computer...
    Do you have a fooking clue in general...Yes/No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Sacrolyte


    I like cookies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,208 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Cookie laws preceded GDPR by many years, GDPR required consent in the absence of any other legal basis though.


    Before the GDPR thing in 2018 or let's just call it before "cookie overload" it was the wild west with cookies. Companies can get massive fined now for taking the piss.

    But if anyone thinks they are bad now. Give it another month / two.


  • Posts: 5,369 [Deleted User]


    Must be the single most annoying thing about using the internet lately. Every single website and their odd variation of asking you to accept cookies.. or, also trying to wedge in 'can we send you notifications', as if you'd have any interest.

    Why can it not be assumed that there are certain cookies website require, and people will have no issue with this. If it's anything outside of a set parameter that the website are looking for, then they have to ask.

    (I won't even start on Google's consistent pestering you to sign in..)

    Is there a way around these constant pop-ups. Is there anybody out there doing anything in relation to this?

    Comes were granted for basic stuff survival l automatically. Then date protection within the eu decided it was a breach. Pain in the arse!

    And as for the notifications, why? In the history of the internet has anyone ever decided that getting popups while not even online from a random website is s great idea?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭bobbyy gee


    Its European data protectuon

    Download a program that deletes ads on your browsers


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  • Posts: 5,369 [Deleted User]


    Are you sure there mate?

    I mean if you bothered to Google before you posted that...

    Here's a hint: may 2018.
    Before the GDPR thing in 2018 or let's just call it before "cookie overload" it was the wild west with cookies. Companies can get massive fined now for taking the piss.

    But if anyone thinks they are bad now. Give it another month / two.

    How old are you? I'm not being insulting but you clearly don't recall the change when cookies had to be agreed to which was easily way before 2018. It was all the way back in 2009 with the EU Directive 2009/136/EC.

    Here's some good reading on it;
    https://baekdal.com/thoughts/the-original-cookie-specification-from-1997-was-gdpr-compliant/

    Maybe take your own advise and Google before posting. ;)

    Personally I miss the days when basic cookies were presumed and as long as you didn't act the idiot, you were fine.

    I mean, has any of this prevented old timers getting spam, viruses, phishing, popups, notifications and hijacked? Not judging by my parents and in laws laptops it hasn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,003 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Your mother accepts cookies.









    For blowjobs.

    Or, the other way around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,465 ✭✭✭MOH



    I mean, has any of this prevented old timers getting spam, viruses, phishing, popups, notifications and hijacked? Not judging by my parents and in laws laptops it hasn't.

    Why would you possibly think cookie regulation would protect you from any of those things?


  • Registered Users Posts: 630 ✭✭✭gman127


    eviltwin wrote: »
    There's an add on to Google you can get: I don't care about cookies I think its called.

    I use this and it works great!

    I forget about it until I use a device without it installed and the cookies start bugging me again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,208 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    How old are you? I'm not being insulting but you clearly don't recall the change when cookies had to be agreed to which was easily way before 2018. It was all the way back in 2009 with the EU Directive 2009/136/EC.

    Here's some good reading on it;
    https://baekdal.com/thoughts/the-original-cookie-specification-from-1997-was-gdpr-compliant/

    Maybe take your own advise and Google before posting. ;)

    Personally I miss the days when basic cookies were presumed and as long as you didn't act the idiot, you were fine.

    I mean, has any of this prevented old timers getting spam, viruses, phishing, popups, notifications and hijacked? Not judging by my parents and in laws laptops it hasn't.

    I don't need to Google. There's a why for that.
    Maybe we're on a different page or your splitting heirs.

    This thread is about the long annoying cookie messages WHICH became standard two years ago. Again, you should be the one to Google.

    You're acting like people are saying a cookie didn't exist before as a base for your argument..... ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭El Tarangu


    MOH wrote: »
    No, blame the scumbag advertisers who turned the internet into a race to the bottom and click-whoring, along with all the tracking that goes with that.

    Simpler solution would just be ban all advertising and move on.

    This seems a bit simplistic; would you prefer to pay a monthly fee to use boards.ie?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    YA where are my biscuits already!?

    :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail


    And as for the notifications, why? In the history of the internet has anyone ever decided that getting popups while not even online from a random website is s great idea?
    This is worth spending a couple of minutes doing: https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/disable-notifications-chrome-firefox-safari/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail


    El Tarangu wrote: »
    This seems a bit simplistic; would you prefer to pay a monthly fee to use boards.ie?
    You do anyway; it's just hidden. Advertising costs are included in everything you spend money on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,941 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Cookie dough dynamo


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,620 ✭✭✭El Tarangu


    mikhail wrote: »
    You do anyway; it's just hidden. Advertising costs are included in everything you spend money on.

    I know; the point I am making is that currently, for most websites, you can access them for "free" because they are paid for through advertising. If online advertising were banned, as another poster suggested, websites would have to be paid for other means, possibly through monthly subscription.


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  • Posts: 5,369 [Deleted User]


    MOH wrote: »
    Why would you possibly think cookie regulation would protect you from any of those things?

    Gdpr I meant and it's purpose was to protect personal data. People that pay attention to such things already protect their personal data.


  • Posts: 5,369 [Deleted User]


    I don't need to Google. There's a why for that.
    Maybe we're on a different page or your splitting heirs.

    This thread is about the long annoying cookie messages WHICH became standard two years ago. Again, you should be the one to Google.

    You're acting like people are saying a cookie didn't exist before as a base for your argument..... ;)

    I literally specified the exact eu directive that resulted in cookie popup agreements. It's from 2009 and is informally called 'the cookie law'.


  • Posts: 5,369 [Deleted User]


    mikhail wrote: »
    This is worth spending a couple of minutes doing: https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/disable-notifications-chrome-firefox-safari/

    I'm not sure why you sent that. I'm aware of how to disable them

    I was merely Making a point about how anyone would willingly and knowingly agree to something so annoying


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,208 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    I literally specified the exact eu directive that resulted in cookie popup agreements. It's from 2009 and is informally called 'the cookie law'.


    https://digitalstrategy.ie/cookie-controller-contact/?utm_medium=adwords&utm_campaign=&utm_source=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9YPNwrqi7AIVh7TtCh27bQE3EAAYAiAAEgI8TfD_BwE

    https://www.cookiebot.com/en/cookie-consent/

    Guess that big deal in 2018 wasn't nothing. Doesn't exist. All 2009.


  • Posts: 5,369 [Deleted User]



    Not a single person has claimed that the 2018 act didnt exist. We have both stated that cookies were already dealt with in 2009.

    I dunno if you realise how time works or indeed laws but 2009 was before 2018


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,319 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Mod:

    BA and Niner, cut out the sniping at each other. If you can't post in a civil fashion don't post here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,700 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Is it just me or are others getting asked to accept cookies when you go to the same website each and every time? I cant understand why it doesnt know that you've already accepted them before multiple times.

    And does Firefox have an extension to accept them automatically? Its getting really frustrating have to accept them every single time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭silver2020


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    That would make a good T shirt.

    even better "Yes to All Cookies"

    I'll send hairy baby an email - we'll share commission :)


  • Posts: 5,369 [Deleted User]


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    Is it just me or are others getting asked to accept cookies when you go to the same website each and every time? I cant understand why it doesnt know that you've already accepted them before multiple times.

    And does Firefox have an extension to accept them automatically? Its getting really frustrating have to accept them every single time.

    Do you have a cleaner or auto delete setup for cookies? That shouldnt be happening


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,700 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Dont think so or at least not knowingly, I must check the settings. I seem to be asked over and over again to accept cookies on a good few sites.

    Ive clicked into the cookies of sites before and some of them are asking for you to be tracked by over 300 other websites. Its madness, we're probably all being tracked by over 100,000 sites at this stage


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