Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VI - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

Ginger n Lemon

The Government has wisely defused the judicial appointment controversy by declining to take further action over Séamus Woulfe. Given the far-reaching decisions it will have to make in the coming weeks on Covid restrictions and the fallout from Brexit, the public would not have forgiven it for wasting time and energy dealing with the fallout from a squabble amongst the country’s senior judges.

Decisions on if and how the country will exit from the Level 5 lockdown will be made next week. That process will require a combination of wisdom and courage from a Government which was bullied by the National Public Healthy Emergency Team (Nphet) into moving harder and faster than it had planned a month ago to no great obvious effect.

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/stephen-collins-government-must-assert-its-authority-over-nphet-1.4413793?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fopinion%2Fstephen-collins-government-must-assert-its-authority-over-nphet-1.4413793

Finally. Call a spade a spade.

AssetBacked2

AssetBacked2 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/staff-rooms-a-key-risk-for-spread-of-covid-19-in-schools-health-officials-warn-1.4414623

Wow. Just wow. The teachers who complained and requested stricter social distancing and other measures to facilitate the return to schools are now being told it's the f**king staff rooms that are the problem? I'd be livid if I was a teacher.

This covysteria needs to die, but I really hope we are now starting to see the herd of public tolerance move against the NPHET and the government. The Irish people are tolerant, even when being spun yarns about covid and its supposed harm to all but a tiny, vulnerable group of people, but when it is relentless BS they will eventually throw in the towel and give up. As this is a social and economic crisis for the vast majority of people and a health crisis for the minority, tolerance for strict restrictions like we have had the past few months will hopefully just naturally fall away and the actions of people, by just getting on with life, force the hand of the government.

Also the likes of RTE can use words like "COHORT" and phrases like "non compliant" all day, the irish people are great and have huge sense of empathy for all manor of circumstance. this is a country who gave over 1 million to the ZOO in a matter of hours..while on the other side of the river, Montrose thinks we don't pay enough to keep them in champagne and Balloons...

I'd Love Virgin to dig the knife in and go after this RTE story now!

Ginger n Lemon

rusty cole wrote: »

Also the likes of RTE can use words like "COHORT" and phrases like "non compliant" all day, the irish people are great and have huge sense of empathy for all manor of circumstance. this is a country who gave over 1 million to the ZOO in a matter of hours..while on the other side of the river, Montrose thinks we don't pay enough to keep them in champagne and Balloons...

I'd Love Virgin to dig the knife in and go after this RTE story now!

RTE is basically HSE 2.0.

Absolutely useless waste of taxpayers money.

In fact RTE is so inept at being commercial, they had to introduce a law for average Joe to pay annual fee and fund them.

Absolute trash.

BeefeaterHat

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

The Government has wisely defused the judicial appointment controversy by declining to take further action over Séamus Woulfe. Given the far-reaching decisions it will have to make in the coming weeks on Covid restrictions and the fallout from Brexit, the public would not have forgiven it for wasting time and energy dealing with the fallout from a squabble amongst the country’s senior judges.

Decisions on if and how the country will exit from the Level 5 lockdown will be made next week. That process will require a combination of wisdom and courage from a Government which was bullied by the National Public Healthy Emergency Team (Nphet) into moving harder and faster than it had planned a month ago to no great obvious effect.

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/stephen-collins-government-must-assert-its-authority-over-nphet-1.4413793?mode=sample&auth-failed=1&pw-origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishtimes.com%2Fopinion%2Fstephen-collins-government-must-assert-its-authority-over-nphet-1.4413793

Finally. Call a spade a spade.

It's time the EU moved collectively against lockdowns. They simply don't work as effectively as believed, especially if schools remain open as has been the case this lockdown. That's before you even begin to discuss the economic and social ****storm lockdown causes. If anyone thinks restarting businesses is as simple as flicking the lights on and starting where you left off, you're in for a surprise

I'm delighted it was that smug David McCullagh as well.
So what will they have to say for themselves?? this is the problem, who'll quiz them on it?

jon williams, more like Joseph Goebbels..

Gabriel scally was only saying on RTE (not that I agree with it) have a party then bury a friend!!
no wonder he was shocked when he saw the pictures..

Cork2021

Well said Mr Collins!!

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/stephen-collins-government-must-assert-its-authority-over-nphet-1.4413793?mode=amp&fbclid=IwAR3gnJYw-azBOdfv9WrY6X8ScERSCuyRiVn2AFXq_POPuOiiars_y5gE9bY

funnydoggy

Cork2021 wrote: »

Well said Mr Collins!!

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/stephen-collins-government-must-assert-its-authority-over-nphet-1.4413793?mode=amp&fbclid=IwAR3gnJYw-azBOdfv9WrY6X8ScERSCuyRiVn2AFXq_POPuOiiars_y5gE9bY

The Taoiseach is clearly aware of this. He told his TDs during the week that he wanted Christmas to be “meaningful, enjoyable and safe”, and suggested it would “be about trusting the public with their personal behaviour”.

Someone tell Tony Holohan. He has severe distrust in the public. It's insulting tbh

dalyboy

Cork2021 wrote: »

Well said Mr Collins!!

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/stephen-collins-government-must-assert-its-authority-over-nphet-1.4413793?mode=amp&fbclid=IwAR3gnJYw-azBOdfv9WrY6X8ScERSCuyRiVn2AFXq_POPuOiiars_y5gE9bY

It’s such an hilarious situation.

NPHET must have the media by the short and curlies somehow.

WTF is our democratically elected government doing sitting on their hands with saliva dribbling out of the sides of their mouths and allowing this cabal dictate policy and manipulate public opinion ??????
Collective minds are clearly lost.

Look NPHET ...... we did it your way 4.5 weeks ago. Went full doomsday lockdown based on your NOW obviously faulty modelling.

The failure of this modelling lies 100% at your door NOT the public’s

(imagine building in FULL public lockdown compliance to an already 7 month exhausted population...... if that failure to accurately model a 1.5 BILLION euro decision occurred anywhere other than NPHET you’d be sacked and probably charged with criminal negligence)

walus

fin12 wrote: »

He said he wants the cases under a 100 a day, that is not going to happen while schools are open.

I’d rather say that this is not going to happen while hospitals are open.

FintanMcluskey

Penfailed wrote: »

Utmost respect? Nah. I don't know the fella. He could walk past me in the street and I wouldn't recognise him. I don't feel the need to run him down either though.

You don’t know what Holohan looks like?

That’s bolix, everyone knows what he looks like

PTH2009

Decision should of been made today

A few businesses esp in the hospitality sector will struggle to get open for the 1st December

Captain_Crash

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

You don’t know what Holohan looks like?

That’s bolix, everyone knows what he looks like

Fun fact! I know what he looks like but I actually don’t know what he sounds like!

I don’t watch RTE and just read about what’s being said etc! Anytime I am watching telly and if I get even a sniff that he’s going to appear I change over!

road_high

BeefeaterHat wrote: »

It's time the EU moved collectively against lockdowns. They simply don't work as effectively as believed, especially if schools remain open as has been the case this lockdown. That's before you even begin to discuss the economic and social ****storm lockdown causes. If anyone thinks restarting businesses is as simple as flicking the lights on and starting where you left off, you're in for a surprise

Indeed. I think it’ll take a major outside force to call a halt to this nonsense- be it the IMF or EU. Our crowd of useless wasters in Nphet and government can’t see beyond it as it involves basically no lateral thinking or innovation. It’s all about as sophisticated as Holohans thinking gets.
The icing on the cake has been an actual rise in cases as lockdown comes to an end. No doubt the donkeys only “recommendation” will be more of what has already failed

Ginger n Lemon

Waylon Petite Shower wrote: »

Hi, I am assuming this post is directed towards me? Could you please stop undermining all my posts by associating me with some other person or poster it is massively unfair and very frustrating. I have just come in and politely posted my opinions yet a number of posters including you are undermining every post I make, ganging up to on me and just generally making me feel uncomfortable.

I havent seen any of that in bold, not in this thread anyways.

But yes, be prepared, people have lost patience with yo yo lockdowns and ridiculous restrictions based on teletubbies science, promoted by big Tony and the notorious zoo that is NPHET. Apprntly group of experts with regards to covid, although only 2 out of 40 actually have epidemiology background...

NPHET should be disbanded. Tony H and Ro Ro should get kicked out (they are absolutely useless, akin to below when it comes to their daily briefings on RTE news 6.01)

Necro

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Ginger n Lemon

'God can help us': Cavan priest will continue to hold Mass despite Level 5 rules
“A scientist cannot tell me that what he does is more important than what God does,” Father PJ Hughes told RTÉ Radio One.

https://www.thejournal.ie/cavan-priest-hold-mass-5273266-Nov2020/

Will be pretty impressive if this turns into science vs god argument with regards to restrictions.

greensausage

It's just my take on it but listening to Michael Martin it's not sounding too positive about pubs and or restaurants being open for Christmas, sounds like the house visitors and 5km County rules might be relaxed...... Not that anyone was going to adhere to them anyway.

PTH2009

Jesus this is getting too much now

Bloody staff in RTE getting a bollocking for taking photos too close to each other

Penfailed

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

You don’t know what Holohan looks like?

That’s bolix, everyone knows what he looks like

The only newspaper I read is The Irish News. It's mainly news from north of the border. I don't usually watch RTE. The only thing I've watched about this whole sorry state of affairs was Leo's address to the nation on St. Paddy's Day. How would I know what he looks like?

Necro

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