FF/FG/Green Government - part 2

FrancieBrady · 26-11-2020 8:36pm

Solutionking wrote: »

I responded to other posters, that is normally how a forum works.

Maybe discuss the topic instead of attacking poster on here because they dont agree with you

You responded by handwaving away the issue, again and again. It's your right to do it as it is mine to point it out.

Necro · 26-11-2020 8:55pm

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Quit the bickering and get back on topic. If you have an issue with a post please report it and don't derail the thread

Thanks.

RandomViewer · 26-11-2020 9:05pm

Solutionking wrote: »

Yes who cares about people dying as long as we have a pointless election.

What will change with an election? as I pointed out before SF had no interest in creating a government and that was confirmed by independent TD's. So waste millions, potentially kills hundred if not thousands of people for SF to disappear as soon as the going get hard.

FG seem set to drop restrictions to lick up to IBEC even though the figures are roughly the same as they were 3 weeks ago, if FG really gave a fxxk they'd keep level 5 until the end of January,

Solutionking · 26-11-2020 9:14pm

RandomViewer wrote: »

FG seem set to drop restrictions to lick up to IBEC even though the figures are roughly the same as they were 3 weeks ago, if FG really gave a fxxk they'd keep level 5 until the end of January,

FF are in government and MM is the Taoiseach. What is the obsession with FG?

smurgen · 26-11-2020 9:21pm

Solutionking wrote: »

FF are in government and MM is the Taoiseach. What is the obsession with FG?

Because it's their scandals that are disturbing the work of government.

Fann Linn · 26-11-2020 9:26pm

Louise O Reilly nailing it succinctly: 'Hasn't really been a great week for Meath!!! '

Cluedo Monopoly · 26-11-2020 9:37pm

Good summary of proceedings today.

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2020/1126/1180559-seamus-woulfe-politics/

It was a bruising encounter. Attention now turning to Leo.

smurgen · 26-11-2020 9:51pm

Michael Lowrey in the convention center today railing about socials media and taking about keyboard warriors. They must be making life for the likes of him , one of the most corrupt politicians ireland has know more difficult.

Solutionking · 26-11-2020 9:57pm

smurgen wrote: »

Michael Lowrey in the convention center today railing about socials media and taking about keyboard warriors. They must be making life for the likes of him , one of the most corrupt politicians ireland has know more difficult.

Yes corrupt as hell but then that is the joys of the Irish system you have these people still getting voted in.

I doubt he is too concerned as he walks to victory every election without any hassle

https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/tipperary

RandomViewer · 26-11-2020 10:01pm

Solutionking wrote: »

FF are in government and MM is the Taoiseach. What is the obsession with FG?

Mickey the cardboard Taoiseach, would have agreed to anything to get the title, When someone can refer to you as Dickie Brutons bixxh things can't be much worse.

RandomViewer · 26-11-2020 10:03pm

Solutionking wrote: »

Yes corrupt as hell but then that is the joys of the Irish system you have these people still getting voted in.

I doubt he is too concerned as he walks to victory every election without any hassle

https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/tipperary

If white collar crime was punished properly that wouldn't be happening

McMurphy · 26-11-2020 10:09pm

RandomViewer wrote: »

If white collar crime was punished properly that wouldn't be happening

Something about gathering dust.

James Brown · 26-11-2020 10:19pm

McMurphy wrote: »

Something about gathering dust.

Siteserv findings...any minute now...any minute...

jmcc · 26-11-2020 10:24pm

Bowie wrote: »

Siteserv findings...any minute now...any minute...

Postponed courtesy of FFG.

Regards...jmcc

Fann Linn · 26-11-2020 10:26pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Il hazard a guess

As much as FG love to remind people of SF "past",they will blow up another nonsense storm next year over hunger strike commerations

And release the document in middle of it and hope it gets lost in the noise

They'll be gone by next year.

26-11-2020 10:28pm

Fann Linn wrote: »

They'll be gone by next year.

They wont, if they can approve leaking confidential info as ok

There is nothing too low for them to sink to anymore

markodaly · 27-11-2020 12:52am

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Michael, the leader of FF 'the Republican party' being embarrassed by a pointed letter in the paper. Will make a lot of the FF faithful cringe, no doubt, and not without reason.

Is the issue he commemorated the dead of WWI or the fact that the events in the south were cancelled or both?

You have to remember, a Taoiseach is a Taoiseach for all, not just Irish Republicans. SF if or when they are in government will have to do the same, and I will expect the same posters here, have a go at them....

markodaly · 27-11-2020 1:00am

blanch152 wrote: »

A great idea.

PUBLIC: Why are we having an election in the middle of a pandemic

OPPOSITION: Because we didn't like a judge

PUBLIC: Say what? We are risking ourselves gathering to vote because you didn't like a judge????

OPPOSITION: Yes

PUBLIC: And you want our vote now?

No, they liked the Judge back in Feb/March.... but now they are after the soundbite, so they changed their minds... :P

jmcc · 27-11-2020 1:02am

Fann Linn wrote: »

They'll be gone by next year.

Or even next month given the way that Leo The Leak and Helen Absentee are handing things.

Regards...jmcc

Fann Linn · 27-11-2020 1:19am

jmcc wrote: »

Or even next month given the way that Leo The Leak and Helen Absentee are handing things.

Regards...jmcc

When journalists such as Alison O Connor are stating: 'The explanation on the Seamus Woulfe appointment - now "added to" by Minister Helen McEntee - stretches credibility to the point of farce.
It's political bs at it's most egregious and treats people like utter eejits.
The Opposition are doing a great job on it. '

Leo is really the most corrosive man in DE at present. Long may he stay and let MM continue to defend him.

jmcc · 27-11-2020 1:27am

Fann Linn wrote: »

When journalists such as Alison O Connor are stating: 'The explanation on the Seamus Woulfe appointment - now "added to" by Minister Helen McEntee - stretches credibility to the point of farce.
It's political bs at it's most egregious and treats people like utter eejits.
The Opposition are doing a great job on it. '

That's bad! She isn't exactly a columnist who favours the opposition and it is making her and all those fans of Leo The Leak look more stupid with each passing day.

Leo is really the most corrosive man in DE at present. Long may he stay and let MM continue to defend him.

Having Helen Absentee throw him under the bus with that "good judge" comment really hit hard. She may think that she has a career in politics ahead of her but that comment suggests that she thinks that Leo The Leak's is over. Watch for more such distancing comments in the next few days.

Regards...jmcc

James Brown · 27-11-2020 1:47am

jmcc wrote: »

That's bad! She isn't exactly a columnist who favours the opposition and it is making her and all those fans of Leo The Leak look more stupid with each passing day.

Having Helen Absentee throw him under the bus with that "good judge" comment really hit hard. She may think that she has a career in politics ahead of her but that comment suggests that she thinks that Leo The Leak's is over. Watch for more such distancing comments in the next few days.

Regards...jmcc

She might be browned off taking all the heat when she was just doing what she was told.

jmcc · 27-11-2020 1:49am

markodaly wrote: »

Is the issue he commemorated the dead of WWI or the fact that the events in the south were cancelled or both?

This Leo The Leak/Helen Absentee mess does make Charlie Flanagan's Black and Tans/RIC commemoration fiasco look like a walk in the park for FFG, doesn't it?

FG appears to have lost the Irish Times and Leo The Leak is trying to claim that the never made the "good judge" comment as an instruction.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/t%C3%A1naiste-denies-telling-mcentee-to-appoint-woulfe-1.4420790

Regards...jmcc

jmcc · 27-11-2020 1:51am

Bowie wrote: »

She might be browned off taking all the heat when she was just doing what she was told.

The thing about FG is that they can be quite ruthless when they decide to get rid of a leader. There's always a bit of a war dance before it as they try to distance themselves from the potential ex-leader. This looks like one of those distancing moves.

Regards...jmcc

McMurphy · 27-11-2020 8:13am

markodaly wrote: »

No, they liked the Judge back in Feb/March.... but now they are after the soundbite, so they changed their minds... :P

What judge? Are we still on about Seamus Woulfe now?

Fine Gael didn't plop him into the Judge role until the end of July (23rd) back in Feb/March he was Attorney General..

grayzer75 · 27-11-2020 9:05am

markodaly wrote: »

Is the issue he commemorated the dead of WWI or the fact that the events in the south were cancelled or both?

You have to remember, a Taoiseach is a Taoiseach for all, not just Irish Republicans. SF if or when they are in government will have to do the same, and I will expect the same posters here, have a go at them....

A Taoiseach for all you say..........

Triangle · 27-11-2020 9:14am

The scandal with the Wolfe controversy for me is that when Shane Ross tried to reform how judges were nominated - he was blocked everywhere.
It's not a government thing, it's an Irish political system (opposition/government, Dail/seanad) gone wrong.
Too many vested interests have too much sway.

FrancieBrady · 27-11-2020 9:39am

markodaly wrote: »

Is the issue he commemorated the dead of WWI or the fact that the events in the south were cancelled or both?

You have to remember, a Taoiseach is a Taoiseach for all, not just Irish Republicans. SF if or when they are in government will have to do the same, and I will expect the same posters here, have a go at them....

Again your research seems a little on the weak side. Sinn Fein have commemorated the dead of WW1 and there isn't a person in the world who HAS to wear a poppy commemorating all British soldiers because again, if you research it, not all British soldiers are worthy of commemoration.
And another issue would certainly be the non essential travel involved in attending this.

*I think any leader in this country who wears a poppy is taunting and hurting people on this island who suffered at the hands of British soldiers. And I would think that if it was a FG FF Lab or SF Taoiseach.
And just to answer you before you ask, I see no difference in a British soldier whether they come from Brixton or Belturbet. (I have never understood how somebody can join any foreign army and deny they are acting for that foreign country, in the this case specifically, I don't understand how Irish people in the British army can deny or ignore what they did and may do here)

Nobotty · 27-11-2020 10:07am

I think though,if you are to be in favour of inclusion and a renewed relationship both on and between the islands, you can't wholesale rail against a Taoiseach attending Enniskillen IMO
Then there's the 300,000 Irish who fought in the two world wars ,to whom we owe some gratitude for their part in saving us from Nazi and other tyranny

Cluedo Monopoly · 27-11-2020 10:08am

Triangle wrote: »

The scandal with the Wolfe controversy for me is that when Shane Ross tried to reform how judges were nominated - he was blocked everywhere.
It's not a government thing, it's an Irish political system (opposition/government, Dail/seanad) gone wrong.
Too many vested interests have too much sway.

You are right, the system is red rotten and FFG have been abusing it for decades. Their voters must have Stockholm syndrome at this point.

FF/FG/Green Government - part 2

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