FF/FG/Green Government - part 2

blanch152

Bowie wrote: »

He's at it again. I hear Donnelly on the radio. He says things kick in Stephen's day. The government literature says the day after Stephen's day...
And why is the Tánaiste all over the RTE website giving his two cents? Another bet for a laugh? Which film?
He thinks it might go on for longer than planned etc. There should be a column in The Sun, 'Leo's musings', just so we know it is what it is.

Leo is getting into people's heads again.

Can't find much of anything on the RTE website about this, just one article reporting on a government press conference.

TheTruth123

blanch152 wrote: »

Leo is getting into people's heads again.

Can't find much of anything on the RTE website about this, just one article reporting on a government press conference.

Having bets with his mates to see what jokes he can get into his speeches probably.

Bubbaclaus

Bowie wrote: »

He's at it again. I hear Donnelly on the radio. He says things kick in Stephen's day. The government literature says the day after Stephen's day...
And why is the Tánaiste all over the RTE website giving his two cents? Another bet for a laugh? Which film?
He thinks it might go on for longer than planned etc. There should be a column in The Sun, 'Leo's musings', just so we know it is what it is.

Are you seriously asking why the Tanaiste is speaking to media about the lockdown that was announced today?

I get the feeling if he was nowhere to be seen today you would be commenting on that also.

James Brown

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Are you seriously asking why the Tanaiste is speaking to media about the lockdown that was announced today?

I get the feeling if he was nowhere to be seen today you would be commenting on that also.

Yes I am. He was pondering the length as opposed to the government official details given today.
Were was Donnelly? Martin? LV reads to me as third on the list if Donnelly and Martin aren't available. Varadkar is prone to thinking out loud and musing on things. He was featured in the banner covid section then the main story was a piece on what he thinks. We don't need an official statement released followed by what that chancer thinks.

You'd be wrong.

Bubbaclaus

Bowie wrote: »

Yes I am. He was pondering the length as opposed to the government official details given today.
Were was Donnelly? Martin? LV reads to me as third on the list if Donnelly and Martin aren't available. Varadkar is prone to thinking out loud and musing on things. He was featured in the banner covid section then the main story was a piece on what he thinks. We don't need an official statement released followed by what that chancer thinks.

You'd be wrong.

So basically your opinion that he shouldn't be involved today comes down to your personal opinion of him, rather than any line of command or remit of his role in the Government. Got it. Just as long as we are all on the same page here.

James Brown

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

So basically your opinion that he shouldn't be involved today comes down to your personal opinion of him, rather than any line of command or remit of his role in the Government. Got it. Just as long as we are all on the same page here.

You obviously don't.
Not above Martin or Donnelly, no.
What part of "LV reads to me as third on the list if Donnelly and Martin aren't available." can't you get?

He can't help getting his mug in. He was always at that his whole career.
TBF, the man used quotes from films worked into speeches about covid and one from 'Mean Girls' for a bet and a laugh. He shouldn't be let speak on Covid.

Wrongway1985

Bowie wrote: »

TBF, the man used quotes from films worked into speeches about covid and one from 'Mean Girls' for a bet and a laugh. He shouldn't be let speak on Covid.

Some radio station paid the Lord of the rings actor he quoted to issue the challenge.

Bubbaclaus

Bowie wrote: »

You obviously don't.
Not above Martin or Donnelly, no.
What part of "LV reads to me as third on the list if Donnelly and Martin aren't available." can't you get?

He can't help getting his mug in. He was always at that his whole career.
TBF, the man used quotes from films worked into speeches about covid and one from 'Mean Girls' for a bet and a laugh. He shouldn't be let speak on Covid.

As I said, based on your own dislike of him rather than anything logically based on the actual remit of the role of Tanaiste in this Government.

Tpcl20

I have to say I was pmsl when Leo tried to speak Irish. "Beimíd ag tabhairt... advisories... do na gnóthe...". Good attempt, maybe go and revise a little bit of the aul Gaeilge to not make a hames of it next time. From the laughs I'd say it cheered everyone at the presser up a bit.

James Brown

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

As I said, based on your own dislike of him rather than anything logically based on the actual remit of the role of Tanaiste in this Government.

Again, no.
If Donnelly and Martin aren't available he'd be the next approriate choice.
I have no personal dislike of him. I don't know him. Politically and as a public servant I think he's a selfish clown who lacks maturity.
The man put in quotes from 'Mean Girls' to a covid speech on the pandemic and it's affects, for a bet ffs.
If not telling lies he's getting in digs or quoting films. In short he's not fit for the job.

Bubbaclaus

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

So basically your opinion that he shouldn't be involved today comes down to your personal opinion of him, rather than any line of command or remit of his role in the Government. Got it. Just as long as we are all on the same page here.

He leaks condfidential documents to his mates,he shouldnt be let anywhere near running of the country,

TheTruth123

[Deleted User] wrote: »

He leaks condfidential documents to his mates,he shouldnt be let anywhere near running of the country,

What I cant wait for is when FFG are not in Govt, what will come out. That has FF and FG ****ting it

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

He leaks condfidential documents to his mates,he shouldnt be let anywhere near running of the country,

Let it go, Blaa. It’s all in the past. Get over it.

Happy and safe Christmas to all.

Tpcl20

Bowie wrote: »

Again, no.
If Donnelly and Martin aren't available he'd be the next approriate choice.
I have no personal dislike of him. I don't know him. Politically and as a public servant I think he's a selfish clown who lacks maturity.
The man put in quotes from 'Mean Girls' to a covid speech on the pandemic and it's affects, for a bet ffs.
If not telling lies he's getting in digs or quoting films. In short he's not fit for the job.

He said the night is darkest just before the dawn at the start of that presser. Tired and overused and not even really relevant. Also I don't believe it, because Paschal said "If we winter this one out, we can summer anywhere" back in October and it really doesn't look like they're going to have things sorted by the summer, given the woefully small quantities of vaccine coming. Not to mention the chance that this new strain will be unaffected by the vaccine (as per recent FT article).

TheTruth123

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Let it go, Blaa. It’s all in the past. Get over it.

Happy and safe Christmas to all.

In the past? Will remember that when the IRA are brought up about SF

Bubbaclaus

[Deleted User] wrote: »

He leaks condfidential documents to his mates,he shouldnt be let anywhere near running of the country,

The people decide who runs the country, not social media rhetoric.

James Brown

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

The people decide who runs the country, not social media rhetoric.

Varadkar leaking a confidential document and FF/Greens shrugging it off wasn't a meme.

Bubbaclaus

Bowie wrote: »

Varadkar leaking a confidential document and FF/Greens shrugging it off wasn't a meme.

Never said it was a meme. I said social media rhetoric doesn't decide who runs the country, the people do.

James Brown

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Never said it was a meme. I said social media rhetoric doesn't decide who runs the country, the people do.

His and FG's behaviour on social media seem to be helping folk decide.

TheTruth123

Bowie wrote: »

His and FG's behaviour on social media seem to be helping folk decide.

Leo needs to remove himself from social media.

I see he has remover his Photo Op in the hospice during a pandemic yesterday, a clown.

Bubbaclaus

Bowie wrote: »

His and FG's behaviour on social media seem to be helping folk decide.

Really? Polling seems to show them as having more support than they did at the start of the year. Varadkar's approval rating significantly higher also since early 2020.

Polling doesn't seem to be matching the social media rhetoric.

Bubbaclaus

TheTruth123 wrote: »

Leo needs to remove himself from social media.

I see he has remover his Photo Op in the hospice during a pandemic yesterday, a clown.

Your username is inaccurate.

https://twitter.com/LeoVaradkar/status/1341036932143460354?s=19

James Brown

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Really? Polling seems to show them as having more support than they did at the start of the year. Varadkar's approval rating significantly higher also since early 2020.

Polling doesn't seem to be matching the social media rhetoric.

While polls are a good talking point I don't put too much weight into them. Even the one the other day citing SF as most popular.
I think the SD's and PBP might make more ground thanks to the Greens and SF will take some from FF/FG. Same if not more as they can be now seen as a viable option. You'd previously hear people speak on not bothering because they'd no hope etc.
Best thing FG can do is ditch Varadkar, Harris etc. to be taken more seriously and FF can disband IMO.

Bubbaclaus

Bowie wrote: »

While polls are a good talking point I don't put too much weight into them. Even the one the other day citing SF as most popular.
I think the SD's and PBP might make more ground thanks to the Greens and SF will take some from FF/FG. Same if not more as they can be now seen as a viable option. You'd previously hear people speak on not bothering because they'd no hope etc.
Best thing FG can do is ditch Varadkar, Harris etc. to be taken more seriously and FF can disband IMO.

I'm sure FF will take your opinion on board.

James Brown

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

I'm sure FF will take your opinion on board.

Reading between the lines, looks like I'm still hopeful for FG. FF are the zombie civil war party of greasy hair and crony handshakes. Mind, the gap between them is ever decreasing.

Bubbaclaus

Bowie wrote: »

Reading between the lines, looks like I'm still hopeful for FG. FF are the zombie civil war party of greasy hair and crony handshakes. Mind, the gap between them is ever decreasing.

I'm a bit curious as to why FF (polling 22%) should disband, whereas there's great hope for S/PBP (2%) and SDs (1%), but that's not a conversation for here anyway

Brendan Bendar

Bowie wrote: »

Reading between the lines, looks like I'm still hopeful for FG. FF are the zombie civil war party of greasy hair and crony handshakes. Mind, the gap between them is ever decreasing.

“party of greasy hair”. !!!

Jaysus...... give Cullinane a bell, Jim......seems made for him so :eek:

James Brown

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

I'm a bit curious as to why FF (polling 22%) should disband, whereas there's great hope for S/PBP (2%) and SDs (1%), but that's not a conversation for here anyway

Oh, you judge a party's worth based on polling? I couldn't care less in that regard. FF gave up the right to call themselves public representative years ago. They can't be trusted IMO. FG are giving them a run for their our money on that.

Bubbaclaus

Bowie wrote: »

Oh, you judge a party's worth based on polling? I couldn't care less in that regard. FF gave up the right to call themselves public representative years ago. They can't be trusted IMO. FG are giving them a run for their our money on that.

Surely you can see why calling for the disbanding of a party that has the support of about a fifth of the country is a bit of an odd call to me. Clearly there is a large chunk of the country that do trust FF to represent them and that should be respected.

TheTruth123

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Surely you can see why calling for the disbanding of a party that has the support of about a fifth of the country is a bit of an odd call to me. Clearly there is a large chunk of the country that do trust FF to represent them and that should be respected.

The latest opinion polls show FF at 11%.

The old days are over, no more jobs for the lads, do what we want, the people have choices

The more TDs run their mouth at SF, SF are gaining support. It was clear by ffg and the media pre election, they didnt want SF doing well. Poor Leo still hasnt got over it