FF/FG/Green Government - part 2

Gooey Looey

Bishop of hope wrote: »

We will be queuing up here if cases keep rising the way they are and apparently being seriously under reported.
Tough few months ahead and probably mostly avoidable.
Govt aren't to blame in either side I believe, the human frailty of socialising is the driver.
We all know the risks at this stage and it's just a shame we don't realise the damage this is doing.
Happy new year all stay safe and hopefully things will get better shortly.

It was predicted, the govt were advised the numbers would be in the thousands by Christmas but chose not to heed the experts in early December. They've made an absolute balls of things!

James Brown

blanch152 wrote: »

Last I checked Martin won the vote for Taoiseach. His only opposition Mary-Lou performed dismally and had the least support for Taoiseach.

Those are the facts, simple facts, that anyone should be able to grasp.

Again, nobody is. You haven't grasped the comment or the explanation.
The poster claimed Martin had the least support, not that he got the least votes back when he ran.

Stop telling lies about SF running the covid situation up north. Its getting really embarrassing for you.

RandomViewer

PearseCork92 wrote: »

Who wants to tell the Chuckle Brothers Blanch and Brendan that the NI health minister is Robin Swann from the UUP?

They think Michelle did a Vulcan Mindmeld on him and he's in her thrall ,

RandomViewer

Was out and about this morning, a lot of UK,NI and Dublin reg cars about, the holiday homes are full

PearseCork92

RandomViewer wrote: »

They think Michelle did a Vulcan Mindmeld on him and he's in her thrall ,

I heard from the lads in the Dublin Bay North Fine Gael cumann that the IRA acquired a mind-raygun from Colonel Gadaffi in the 80s and have been using it to undermine their Unionist power sharing partners through inferior health administration.

Gerry Kelly directs proceedings from the back of a fried chicken shop in the Ardoyne. Sinister.

RandomViewer

PearseCork92 wrote: »

I heard from the lads in the Dublin Bay North Fine Gael cumann that the IRA acquired a mind-raygun from Colonel Gadaffi in the 80s and have been using it to undermine their Unionist power sharing partners through inferior health administration.

Gerry Kelly directs proceedings from the back of a fried chicken shop in the Ardoyne. Sinister.

Suppose he had to do something after the talk show got axed,

Cluedo Monopoly

Fascinating year in Irish politics. Civil War politics ending was momentous. I think FFG will be glad 2020 is over. Tough start to their marriage.

RandomViewer

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

Fascinating year in Irish politics. Civil War politics ending was momentous. I think FFG will be glad 2020 is over. Tough start to their marriage.

Get the notion it's like one of those sham marriages so one partner can get citizenship, doubtful if its consummated:)

Cluedo Monopoly

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

Fascinating year in Irish politics. Civil War politics ending was momentous. I think FFG will be glad 2020 is over. Tough start to their marriage.

But, like any marriage, what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. Onwards and upwards.

Gooey Looey

[Deleted User] wrote: »

But, like any marriage, what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. Onwards and upwards.

Lol. Their fcuk ups over Covid will crucify them in January! It's gonna be brilliant!

Finty Lemon

Gooey Looey wrote: »

Lol. Their fcuk ups over Covid will crucify them in January! It's gonna be brilliant!

Will the higher death rates be worth a few extra poll points?

Gooey Looey

Finty Lemon wrote: »

Will the higher death rates be worth a few extra poll points?

Extra, they won't be getting any extra? They'll be losing them! Doesn't matter where they go!

Finty Lemon

Gooey Looey wrote: »

Extra, they won't be getting any extra? They'll be losing them! Doesn't matter where they go!

If I understand correctly, you want more people to die and more chaos in the country, all to further a political aim.
Sounds like old school socialism is alive and well.

smurgen

Itssoeasy wrote: »

You can’t compare New Zealand to us and I think you know this. New Zealand for all the good things I hear about it has one very big advantage over many places. It’s in the middle of nowhere.

Tell that to the public health experts that have been pushing government to follow New Zealand's approach.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/amp/ireland/become-a-zero-covid-island-or-sleepwalk-to-major-surge-experts-say-1014050.html

smurgen

blanch152 wrote: »

Thanks to the government for doing a good job in preventing the ****show up North overseen by the SF/DUP government from spreading down here.

Thankfully we don’t have the likes of Michelle O’Neill anywhere near power.

O Neill wanted flights from UK stopped. How much did FFG push for this? The virus can't swim here. It was a government decision to keep airports open and not properly quarantine arrivals. This is on them. Maybe they need to up their diplomacy skills if they couldn't convince Westminster to help them tackle the virus in a coordinated fashion.

Suckit

https://www.irishpost.com/news/leo-varadkar-criticises-dr-tony-holohan-saying-level-5-advice-was-not-thought-through-194581

Finty Lemon

smurgen wrote: »

O Neill wanted flights from UK stopped. How much did FFG push for this? The virus can't swim here. It was a government decision to keep airports open and not properly quarantine arrivals. This is on them. Maybe they need to up their diplomacy skills if they couldn't convince Westminster to help them tackle the virus in a coordinated fashion.

Would you agree to closing the border for a few months now so?

smurgen

Finty Lemon wrote: »

Would you agree to closing the border for a few months now so?

100% for the whole island. Hard lockdown no school return. Get it down to zero and keep airports closed except for cargo. We could then have the community live normally once zero is reached. Repatriation flights only. No commercial flights.

Cluedo Monopoly

Holohan: 'To support the testing system through this surge, we are no longer advising close contacts of confirmed cases to get tested.'

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/hse-capacity-to-process-covid-tests-reaches-140-000-weekly-donnelly-1.4400028

The Health Service Executive now has the capacity to process 140,000 Covid-19 tests a week, up from 120,000, according to Minister for Health Stephen Donnelly.

What are these clowns at? What was Donnelly spoofing about in November? The testing system always seems to break when it is needed.

You just know they are going to make an utter shambles out of the vaccine rollout too. Track record of chaos.

When was the last time we had a credible minister for Health??? Or even one that could tell the truth.

smurgen

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

Holohan: 'To support the testing system through this surge, we are no longer advising close contacts of confirmed cases to get tested.'

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/hse-capacity-to-process-covid-tests-reaches-140-000-weekly-donnelly-1.4400028



What are these clowns at? What was Donnelly spoofing about in November?

You just know they are going to make an utter shambles out of the vaccine rollout too. Track record of chaos.

When was the last time we had a credible minister for Health???

Don't worry they've 1,800 vaccinated already according to Paul Reid. At 450 vaccines a day we should be good to reopen in the year 3,000!

PearseCork92

Itssoeasy wrote: »

You can’t compare New Zealand to us and I think you know this. New Zealand for all the good things I hear about it has one very big advantage over many places. It’s in the middle of nowhere.

Does the virus behave differently and understand when it's being carried on a plane from Sydney as opposed to Stansted? I'd be interested to see a peer reviewed paper on that one.

Or perhaps it's because NZ like all the outperforming eastern countries operate a supervised quarantine regime on entry to the country.

No, couldn't be that.

Must. Not. Compare.

smurgen

PearseCork92 wrote: »

Does the virus behave differently and understand when it's being carried on a plane from Sydney as opposed to Stansted? I'd be interested to see a peer reviewed paper on that one.

Or perhaps it's because NZ like all the outperforming eastern countries operate a supervised quarantine regime on entry to the country.

No, couldn't be that.

Must. Not. Compare.

See the zero covid approach requires active management. Active management is something our government avoids at all cost. They prefer a reactionary approach to things leading to this open close chaos we're seeing at the moment.They then have the paid shills clean up the narrative/optics for them afterwards and the cult following regurgitates whatever the party line is ad nauseum.

smurgen

See how the spin cycle works?

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1344973959041871873?s=19

McMurphy

smurgen wrote: »

See how the spin cycle works?

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1344973959041871873?s=19

Simon Harris had a tweet up the other day (looks to be now deleted) going on about the sharp daily rises in cases, and he even had the cheek and audacity to say "as correctly predicted by the Tánaiste".

Whereas, how I remember it, it was NPHET who were advising them to put a halt on things, or we would be experiencing thousands of cases a day around the Christmas period.

The Tanaiste basically said "fcuk you, NPHET"

They love trying to rewrite history to be fair.

Cluedo Monopoly

All the year in review programs on the radio are citing Golfgate as the biggest story in the year. They are saying it had a detrimental impact on the fight against covid because the elite politicians blatantly showed that we weren't all in this together. They recalled the sense of deep anger at the time, especially from those who had to bury loved ones under severe funeral restrictions.

RandomViewer

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

All the year in review programs on the radio are citing Golfgate as the biggest story in the year. They are saying it had a detrimental impact on the fight against covid because the elite politicians blatantly showed that we weren't all in this together. They recalled the sense of deep anger at the time, especially from those who had to bury loved ones under severe funeral restrictions.

Keelings was the start in my opinion, telling people you cant pass 2k and then have Ryanair staff panicking when planeloads are coming in with a check from the finest Chinese digital thermometer, Coveney and the funny handshake brigade twisting things to their adcantage

smurgen

RandomViewer wrote: »

Keelings was the start in my opinion, telling people you cant pass 2k and then have Ryanair staff panicking when planeloads are coming in with a check from the finest Chinese digital thermometer, Coveney and the funny handshake brigade twisting things to their adcantage

Ah yes the bad aul days. Some in he were going on about personal responsibility and the Keelings company accommodation had them packed in like sardines.

smurgen

So all this is going swimmingly. They own it. They defied the experts. Take a bow coalition of chaos.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1345078647070355458?s=19

Bishop of hope

smurgen wrote: »

So all this is going swimmingly. They own it. They defied the experts. Take a bow coalition of chaos.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1345078647070355458?s=19

God you're having an argasmic few days of posts.
So glad there's material for your twisting of things.
We own it, the health advice is just that and doesn't take any other situations into consideration.
We could all have followed it.
Sad to see such glee in posting of these statistics, it's a new low.

blanch152

smurgen wrote: »

Ah yes the bad aul days. Some in he were going on about personal responsibility and the Keelings company accommodation had them packed in like sardines.

The numbers tell the real story. We are doing far better than our neighbours in the North and our neighbours across the Irish Sea. Those are the measures by which you can judge the government.

People were always going to get sick and die from Covid-19. How many compared to others nearby is the mark of how well a government is managing it.

Faux comparisons with countries on the other side of the world don't cut it, but comparing with Northern Ireland and Great Britain offer insight.