FF/FG/Green Government - part 2

Bishop of hope

Francie wants the govt to step aside!?

Nobotty

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yes Maryanne, get them around the table too if they are part of the solution...get all who are a part involved...bring everyone along together, the essence of 'cohesiveness'.
Stop blaming all and sundry when the responsible people are not doing their part.

Would such a solution put the army in shopping centres to stop yummy mummies crowding around each other like it was 2019 or stop house parties?
It would have to be some junta and is a non starter IMO
Unfortunately I'm resigned to the problem untill the spring and vaccines start to kick in
Our only hope is those

smurgen

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Its really sad that the usual suspects are trying to ram their ‘end direct provision’ in with covid to get their way. They really need to stop politicising this virus

You're the one politicising the virus. It can be easily transferred from someone in direct provision to someone outside. If the conditions within direct provision foster a breeding ground for the virus then direct provision would need to be changed.

smurgen

Nobotty wrote: »

I'll bet it was Barrett, being a Saturday
Pap sensitive Vradakar wouldn't be coming out those gates like that otherwise

You can bet all you want.you've no evidence.

Kowerski

smurgen wrote: »

You can bet all you want.you've no evidence.

Do you have evidence to suggest otherwise?

Nobotty

smurgen wrote: »

You can bet all you want.you've no evidence.

Tbh,I've no evidence because I've no sight of the photograph and don't know who is driving nor have you said if the driver is visible
Its not on the online version of the paper and I have premium for another week (1 month free with revolut)
What I do know is Vradakar is very pap sensitive

Meanwhile lady doctor Gabrielle on radio one saying guards aren't enforcing anything
50 people plus outside pubs and restaurants in Dublin yesterday and 3 of her neighbours holding parties breaking the new guidelines
Dan o brien on the same show talking perfect sense as to the futility of it all
Oxford academics saying Ireland has the most stringent restrictions in Europe already
We are ****ed until that vaccine comes

Truthvader

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The solution appears to me to be anything other than allowing this ****show to continue.

Spreading your Sinn Fein "****show" propaganda doesn't make it true.

Any normal person can see that the government is doing their best with a new tricky, changing situation. If the solution were simple or easy or fun it would be solved.

Whatever the solution is or way forward might be Sinn Fein have nothing to contribute one way or the other - save for the kind of grating whinging and carping criticism so in evidence here

FrancieBrady

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yes Maryanne, get them around the table too if they are part of the solution...get all who are a part involved...bring everyone along together, the essence of 'cohesiveness'.
Stop blaming all and sundry when the responsible people are not doing their part.

They ARE getting around the table. Their views ARE being discussed. They ARE part of the decision making process.

FrancieBrady

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Francie wants the govt to step aside!?

And here comes the misrepresentation...followed no doubt by outright lies about what I proposed.

Truthvader

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Francie wants the govt to step aside!?

Francie just wants to undermine and criticise whatever the government do and to promote and justify Sinn Fein (who have no proposals) all the way. No other agenda or interest

Would be happy with any wreckage so long as the end result was Mary Lou and Gerry wrapped in the green flag in charge of whatever wasteland remained

Brendan Bendar

Truthvader wrote: »

Francie just wants to undermine and criticise whatever the government do and to promote and justify Sinn Fein (who have no proposals) all the way. No other agenda or interest

Would be happy with any wreckage so long as the end result was Mary Lou and Gerry wrapped in the green flag in charge of whatever wasteland remained

Post of the month so far........

FrancieBrady

Truthvader wrote: »

Francie just wants to undermine and criticise whatever the government do and to promote and justify Sinn Fein (who have no proposals) all the way. No other agenda or interest

Would be happy with any wreckage so long as the end result was Mary Lou and Gerry wrapped in the green flag in charge of whatever wasteland remained

and as predicted...the lies.

FrancieBrady

What worked at the start will not work now...how much evidence do we need of that.

What we need is the impression at least of the seriousness of the situation coming from the top down.

A national government to deal with the crisis specifically...let them govern away on other issues, would convey that impression. Everybody, sleeves rolled up working together in the 'national' interest.

smurgen

Truthvader wrote: »

Francie just wants to undermine and criticise whatever the government do and to promote and justify Sinn Fein (who have no proposals) all the way. No other agenda or interest

Would be happy with any wreckage so long as the end result was Mary Lou and Gerry wrapped in the green flag in charge of whatever wasteland remained

All I hear from post like this is retain the status quo of wasteland. How utterly depressing the government supporters are.

smurgen

Kowerski wrote: »

Do you have evidence to suggest otherwise?

He pays for a government driver and is leaving government buildings. Are you naive?

Brendan Bendar

FrancieBrady wrote: »

What worked at the start will not work now...how much evidence do we need of that.

What we need is the impression at least of the seriousness of the situation coming from the top down.

A national government to deal with the crisis specifically...let them govern away on other issues, would convey that impression. Everybody, sleeves rolled up working together in the 'national' interest.

From the bottom up I’d say mesel.

Moycullen..... Berlin..Dungannon.....Donegal.... Killarney.... Kilkee. Etc given your likeness for this ‘back-up’ you seem to like so much.

When it’s the most obvious stuff any sensible person can see.

smurgen

Great to know we've intellectual heavy weights such as Eoghan "rabbit in the headlights" Murphy at the steering wheel for such massive decision makings. It's not as if he didn't make a balls of housing and then get wiped out in the election. He should took the hint and found another job.

https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1317759942129078272?s=19

Nobotty

For those of you advocating level five
Read this
Its a text I got a few minutes ago from a friend who works in the ambulance service
I've blotted out the names
This on a micro level is whats going on

I sat in station last night when my colleague received a phone call to say her friend from **** husband had just committed sucicide. When news came through of poss level 5 on Fri he told his wife he cannot cope. They had two kids. While filling up my car with fuel the previous evening **** came over to me. Fellow I'd helped out about a yr previously with an issue. Trust built up. Told me his marriage is on the rocks because of the financial strain on his business and doesn't see a future. His 18yr old daughter is badly struggling atm. We are destroying people's lives,economically and mentally while we continue to try save a few who we haven't even asked what they want. We're playing hide and seek with no plan how to live with the virus.

So when I see the petty tit for tat here,I sigh
This problem is not simple

Truthvader

smurgen wrote: »

Great to know we've intellectual heavy weights such as Eoghan "rabbit in the headlights" Murphy at the steering wheel for such massive decision makings. It's not as if he didn't make a balls of housing and then get wiped out in the election. He should took the hint and found another job.

https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1317759942129078272?s=19

Eoghan was housing minister for 18 months and "failed" to build a million houses.

Perfect "victim" for Sinn Fein bully boys who enjoy the "posh boy" jibe and pack hunting atmosphere. Went up in my estimation when he walked through the baying mob of Sinn Fein scum at the counting centre in the last election

Truthvader

FrancieBrady wrote: »

What worked at the start will not work now...how much evidence do we need of that.

What we need is the impression at least of the seriousness of the situation coming from the top down.

A national government to deal with the crisis specifically...let them govern away on other issues, would convey that impression. Everybody, sleeves rolled up working together in the 'national' interest.

"Lets form a band and save Ireland"

smurgen

Truthvader wrote: »

Eoghan was housing minister for 18 months and "failed" to build a million houses.

Perfect "victim" for Sinn Fein bully boys who enjoy the "posh boy" jibe and pack hunting atmosphere. Went up in my estimation when he walked through the baying mob of Sinn Fein scum at the counting centre in the last election

So 24% of the electorate and anyone else against homelessness is scum? Pretty dehumanizing language there.

Truthvader

smurgen wrote: »

So 24% of the electorate and anyone else against homelessness is scum? Pretty dehumanizing language there.

100% are "against" homelessness.

Look at the footage of the Sinn Fein cowardly pack of school bullies trying to intimidate and abuse Murphy at the last count and try to suppress the word "scum"

Brendan Bendar

smurgen wrote: »

So 24% of the electorate and anyone else against homelessness is scum? Pretty dehumanizing language there.

I saw the gathering at the count centre, nothing about the description was any way dehumanizing about most of those folk, a chara.

Stop trying to twist peoples posts,please.

smurgen

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

I saw the gathering at the count centre, nothing about the description was any way dehumanizing about most of those folk, a chara.

Stop trying to twist peoples posts,please.

So you're calling them scum?

Colonel Claptrap

smurgen wrote: »

Great to know we've intellectual heavy weights such as Eoghan "rabbit in the headlights" Murphy at the steering wheel for such massive decision makings. It's not as if he didn't make a balls of housing and then get wiped out in the election. He should took the hint and found another job.

Is there a reason certain posters are trying to hammer home this inconsistency in truth? It almost seems coordinated.

I repeat myself:

Colonel Claptrap wrote: »

Was he though?

When elected in 2011 he received 5,783 first preference votes in the now abolished Dublin South-East constituency. A turnout of 35,000.

In 2020 he received 6,346 votes in the new, very crowded Dublin Bay south constituency with a turnout of 40,000. This time up against heavy hitters like Jim O'Callaghan and Eamon Ryan. He also carried a strong running mate in Kate O'Connell who split the FG vote.

Chris Andrews pipped him to the second seat in this 4 seater thanks to transfers, resulting in Murphy taking the third seat. He was not at risk of losing his seat.

Considering the drop off in FG support around the country, i think he did quite well for himself all things considered.

Colonel Claptrap

smurgen wrote: »

So you're calling them scum?

I stood beside and watched that crowd of bullies in the count center.
Their behavior was scummy and their actions were sinister.

Bunch of neanderthals. I gave them a wide berth for the rest of the day.

Brendan Bendar

smurgen wrote: »

So you're calling them scum?

https://images.app.goo.gl/m7xcAwL4iTjQUWFZA






:P

Truthvader

Colonel Claptrap wrote: »

I stood beside and watched that crowd of bullies in the count center.
Their behavior was scummy and their actions were sinister.

Bunch of neanderthals. I gave them a wide berth for the rest of the day.

And this is what Francie thinks will contribute to a "National government"

James Brown

I see [URL="https://amp.rte.ie/amp/1172254/]Harris[/URL] has announced that himself and Varadkar have been discussing things and decided the government may move to level four tomorrow. I hope MM gets a call and someone should nudge Eamo.

Great use of the pandemic as PR for Sio and Leo. Thats the important thing.

FrancieBrady

Colonel Claptrap wrote: »

Is there a reason certain posters are trying to hammer home this inconsistency in truth? It almost seems coordinated.

I repeat myself:

Even FG knew what a liability he was, they hid a 'Minister' for the entire campaign, so much so that questions were asked about his whereabouts on one of the compelling issues of that campaign - housing and homelessness.