FF/FG/Green Government - part 2

CrazyFather1

Deleted User wrote: »

https://mobile.twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1352681126570176514


The uk is voting monday on its forced quarantines!.

They haven't closed their borders.

Deleted User wrote: »

Belgium closing its borders tonight ......talks of the eu adopting a zero covid approach


The government of the only island nation in the eu has deemed such an approach as unfeasible

smurgen

Remember Dublin London is one of the busiest air routes in the world. But sure be grand. No need to stem the flow!

https://twitter.com/PeterWestmacott/status/1352658172037787649?s=19

CrazyFather1

smurgen wrote: »

Remember Dublin London is one of the busiest air routes in the world. But sure be grand. No need to stem the flow!

https://twitter.com/PeterWestmacott/status/1352658172037787649?s=19

One flight to Dublin
https://www.heathrow.com/departures

What airlines fly from Terminal 2 Heathrow?
Terminal 2 mainly deals with flights to European destinations; there will also be a few long-haul flights. Please note that all flights are being operated out of Terminal 2 and Terminal 5 due to the ongoing coronavirus situation so the list below may not be accurate or exhaustive.

Aegean Airlines
Aer Lingus
Air Canada
Air China
Aer Lingus
Air India
Air New Zealand
ANA
Asiana Airlines
Austrian Airlines
Avianca
Brussels Airlines
Croatia Airlines
Egyptair
Ethiopian Airlines
EVA Air
Eurowings
Icelandair
Lufthansa
SAS – Scandinavian Airlines
Shenzhen Airlines
Singapore Airlines
South African Airways
Swiss International Airlines
TAP Portugal
Thai Airways
Turkish Airlines
United Airlines

smurgen

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

One flight to Dublin
https://www.heathrow.com/departures

What airlines fly from Terminal 2 Heathrow?
Terminal 2 mainly deals with flights to European destinations; there will also be a few long-haul flights. Please note that all flights are being operated out of Terminal 2 and Terminal 5 due to the ongoing coronavirus situation so the list below may not be accurate or exhaustive.

Aegean Airlines
Aer Lingus
Air Canada
Air China
Aer Lingus
Air India
Air New Zealand
ANA
Asiana Airlines
Austrian Airlines
Avianca
Brussels Airlines
Croatia Airlines
Egyptair
Ethiopian Airlines
EVA Air
Eurowings
Icelandair
Lufthansa
SAS – Scandinavian Airlines
Shenzhen Airlines
Singapore Airlines
South African Airways
Swiss International Airlines
TAP Portugal
Thai Airways
Turkish Airlines
United Airlines

4 flights tomorrow. Plenty from NY too.

https://www.dublinairport.com/flight-information/live-arrivals

smurgen

smurgen wrote: »

4 flights tomorrow. Plenty from NY too.

https://www.dublinairport.com/flight-information/live-arrivals

Are they all full? Are they returning Irish?

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Are they all full? Are they returning Irish?

Will they contain asymptomatic cases,which can spread the virus and should be quarantined??....even though ffg feel it isnt worth the hassle


This UK varient and its speed of transmission,could mean entire planes of infected people landing

smurgen

More foot in mouth from FG.

https://twitter.com/NoonanJoe/status/1352693049822949376?s=19

Fann Linn

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Will they contain asymptomatic cases,which can spread the virus and should be quarantined??....even though ffg feel it isnt worth the hassle

Will they fill in the locator forms? Will they be followed up?

So many questions, so many deaths.

James Brown

smurgen wrote: »

More foot in mouth from FG.

https://twitter.com/NoonanJoe/status/1352693049822949376?s=19

Would it not be easy to check Covid test status while checking the passport?

If FF/FG were on their game they could book a friends hotel, make staying for 14 days compulsory in some cases, ding the traveler and the tax payer. The lads are slipping.

smurgen

Bowie wrote: »

Would it not be easy to check Covid test status while checking the passport?

If FF/FG were on their game they could book a friends hotel, make staying for 14 days compulsory in some cases, ding the traveler and the tax payer. The lads are slipping.

Anything that requires active management by government is too troublesome. 5km lockdowns for millions in rolling cycles is preferred.

James Brown

smurgen wrote: »

Anything that requires active management by government is too troublesome. 5km lockdowns for millions in rolling cycles is preferred.

It's like they're trying not to upset or hassle some section/all of society. Surely a drawn out lockdown is worse than a few weeks of heavy restrictions? Would have thought they'd have learned from Christmas.
Goes to show, IMO, if not on the fiddle, they drift, often aimlessly.

smurgen

smurgen wrote: »

Anything that requires active management by government is too troublesome. 5km lockdowns for millions in rolling cycles is preferred.

Anything that requires personal responsibility by the citizens is often too troublesome.

James Brown

Deleted User wrote: »

Anything that requires personal responsibility by the citizens is often too troublesome.

We're talking about the government restrictions not personal responsibility. Passengers can't force their Covid test results on the man at the gate and expect him to keep track.

As anyone who flew to the States can tell you, filling out extra forms and explaining your reasons for travelling isn't new or hard to organise.
They could add Covid questions to the customs claim forms. They still have farming queries as I recall.

Bowie

Bowie wrote: »

We're talking about the government restrictions not personal responsibility. Passengers can't force their Covid test results on the man at the gate and expect him to keep track.

It’s lack of personal responsibility that is us from work, funerals, weddings and other family gatherings.

smurgen

Deleted User wrote: »

Anything that requires personal responsibility by the citizens is often too troublesome.

Why do you expect citizens to follow health guidance when government doesn't? Are you saying those that catch covid are irresponsible?

James Brown

Deleted User wrote: »

It’s lack of personal responsibility that is us from work, funerals, weddings and other family gatherings.

We're talking about restrictions the government could bring in. Can't hand wave that away with 'personal responsibility', that comes after the infections/death rates spiral.

At last....can ffg fan club,now stop pretending this cant be done

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/ireland-and-uk-holding-talks-on-two-island-mandatory-quarantining-solution-1069023.html

RandomViewer

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Anything that requires personal responsibility by the citizens is often too troublesome.

So everyone who caught Covid is irresponsible?

RandomViewer

RandomViewer wrote: »

So everyone who caught Covid is irresponsible?

No. But it’s possible that an acquaintance of theirs is.

RandomViewer

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No. But it’s possible that an acquaintance of theirs is.

So someone with showing no symptoms came into work, they worked their shift 3 days before feeling sick everyone who worked with them had to isolate for 14days 3 positives, wheres the blame?

James Brown

RandomViewer wrote: »

So someone with showing no symptoms came into work, they worked their shift 3 days before feeling sick everyone who worked with them had to isolate for 14days 3 positives, wheres the blame?

Are any of the co-workers Shinners/PBP/SD?

RandomViewer

Bowie wrote: »

Are any of the co-workers Shinners/PBP/SD?

No PBP or old biddie party up here so some shinners, possible FF, couple older ones would probably be blue shirts but would keep it quiet,

atticu

Bannasidhe wrote: »

A simple read of the thread will provide your answer.

So, I take it that you won’t answer.

FrancieBrady

atticu wrote: »

So, I take it that you won’t answer.

There is no similarity between the consumption of alcohol and COVID-19, the point was that nobody wuld leave drink driving to 'personal responsibility'.

Clear?..because it really is clear that was the point made.

markodaly

FrancieBrady wrote: »

How do you know that? That's a cynical guess. There was a general mood at the start where all were working together. Blown away by arrogance and mishandling.

How do you know it would have made things better. That is the position put forward by people, that having a National Unity government would have made our position much better.
Even SF were cold on the idea. I guess they didn't want to be in the hot seat and wanted to shout and roar from the opposition benches.

Regardless, look across Europe, how many national Unity governments are there today tackling this issue. I think there are none.

markodaly

Bowie wrote: »

Many people believe an all island approach to covid is the way to go.

And what are SF doing to achieve that? They are in Stormont, so what have they been doing to get that going?
If we cannot get an all-island approach, would be ok with cutting off the north and sealing the border?

smurgen

markodaly wrote: »

How do you know it would have made things better. That is the position put forward by people, that having a National Unity government would have made our position much better.
Even SF were cold on the idea. I guess they didn't want to be in the hot seat and wanted to shout and roar from the opposition benches.

Regardless, look across Europe, how many national Unity governments are there today tackling this issue. I think there are none.

Are you against shutting the borders? Are you against mandatory quarantine?
Do you have evidence or either proposals making covid rates worse?

markodaly

smurgen wrote: »

So you accept it wasn't a fact? That you were wrong?

Ill accept it as long as you accept that SF has more blood on their hands due to the higher death rate in the North.

Deal?

markodaly

markodaly wrote: »

And what are SF doing to achieve that? They are in Stormont, so what have they been doing to get that going?
If we cannot get an all-island approach, would be ok with cutting off the north and sealing the border?

i mean,they've been trying to arrange a summit since last summer to set all ireland basis...no reply from ffg

https://www.thejournal.ie/stormont-seek-summit-over-coronavirus-travel-5158428-Jul2020/


It come out last week,that info from passemgers lamding in dublin airport not being shared


Looks to me,ffg are playing games here and putting all our health at risk

smurgen

markodaly wrote: »

Ill accept it as long as you accept that SF has more blood on their hands due to the higher death rate in the North.

Deal?

Never said that. Did you manage to work out the incident rate yet? Ever find the reason for the error you made? Are you happy that your day to day life is more risky now because of government decisions? Because that's how it's reading.