FF/FG/Green Government - part 2

James Brown

Bishop of hope wrote: »

An ever exposing world we live in.
As time goes by and the Hurlers on the ditch get drawn in to the game it usually does expose their weakness.
Some even have a weak game on the ditch, not management material, destined for ditch hurling.
A lot happy with that too, make their living off of it, convince their listeners and advocators that because they can talk the game they should get something out of it.
The manager and team out there playing the game, be it good or bad, while the ditchers talk away and pick up managers wages.

So what was your point you picked up off of Jingles post about cash? You never made a point, (neither did Jingles) just asked me questions.

Again I stated IMO people swung from FF to FG and back again. In 2020 the swing away was due to the numerous crises. If you disagree that's cula bula.
There was/is a housing/homeless/health crises. Well documented and we broke records in areas such as child homelessness.

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As usual I see a discussion on societal crises has turned on the poster and shinners and bombs...desperate.

Floppybits

James Brown wrote: »

Again I stated IMO people swung from FF to FG and back again. In 2020 the swing away was due to the numerous crises. If you disagree that's cula bula.
There was/is a housing/homeless/health crises. Well documented and we broke records in areas such as child homelessness.

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As usual I see a discussion on societal crises has turned on the poster and shinners and bombs...desperate.

The issue now is where do these people swing to now that both FF and FG are in government and are jointly responsible?

Welcome to boards political discussion where someone will criticise the government the government supporters response will be yeah but what about the bombs and Northern Ireland rather than trying to defend the position as to why the government have gone a certain way and around and around we go. Oh yeah and if you hold a different opinion to those government parties then be prepared to be called a shinner even if you have never voted for them.

James Brown

Floppybits wrote: »

The issue now is where do these people swing to now that both FF and FG are in government and are jointly responsible?

Welcome to boards political discussion where someone will criticise the government the government supporters response will be yeah but what about the bombs and Northern Ireland rather than trying to defend the position as to why the government have gone a certain way and around and around we go. Oh yeah and if you hold a different opinion to those government parties then be prepared to be called a shinner even if you have never voted for them.

I think SF will do as good but I can't see them getting a majority any time soon. Too many self interested people to let FF/FG go despite what damage they do on the whole. I think FG picking up the slack left by FF and vice versa will continue but I also don't see FF/FG getting a majority any time soon. We'll likely have a mish mash next government.
We need hear more from the like of the SD's, PBP etc.

RandomViewer

James Brown wrote: »

I think SF will do as good but I can't see them getting a majority any time soon. Too many self interested people to let FF/FG go despite what damage they do on the whole. I think FG picking up the slack left by FF and vice versa will continue but I also don't see FF/FG getting a majority any time soon. We'll likely have a mish mash next government.
We need hear more from the like of the SD's, PBP etc.

The two old dolls are unlikely to stand again for the SDs so that'll be more or less it for them, PBP would not be my thing and they'd make a lot of others nervous as well,

James Brown

RandomViewer wrote: »

The two old dolls are unlikely to stand again for the SDs so that'll be more or less it for them, PBP would not be my thing and they'd make a lot of others nervous as well,

We need a change from the old guard. If 'dem others' get in for a spin in the least it will give FF/FG pause for thought and might have them look at policy instead of 'over there' and it might let the electorate know we don't need to have one or more of FF/FG in government.

Brendan Bendar

James Brown wrote: »

I think SF will do as good but I can't see them getting a majority any time soon. Too many self interested people to let FF/FG go despite what damage they do on the whole. I think FG picking up the slack left by FF and vice versa will continue but I also don't see FF/FG getting a majority any time soon. We'll likely have a mish mash next government.
We need hear more from the like of the SD's, PBP etc.

You are correct, for “self interested” substitute ‘ those who look after themselves’ and realise that SF would ruin the country in no time flat.

Good call there JimBob..... you won’t hear from the Alphabets dude, all they are interested in is the wedge and sitting on the fence..... no hard work or decisions..... not a chance.

Bishop of hope

James Brown wrote: »

So what was your point you picked up off of Jingles post about cash? You never made a point, (neither did Jingles) just asked me questions.

Again I stated IMO people swung from FF to FG and back again. In 2020 the swing away was due to the numerous crises. If you disagree that's cula bula.
There was/is a housing/homeless/health crises. Well documented and we broke records in areas such as child homelessness.

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As usual I see a discussion on societal crises has turned on the poster and shinners and bombs...desperate.

If you see the shinners mentioned in MY last few posts it can only be yourself inserting shinner in there.

James Brown

Bishop of hope wrote: »

If you see the shinners mentioned in MY last few posts it can only be yourself inserting shinner in there.

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I was showing a separation. I was speaking on the thread.

I note you've not addressed the portion that did relate to you.
Were you just throwing up Cash to deflect?

Bishop of hope

James Brown wrote: »

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I was showing a separation. I was speaking on the thread.

I note you've not addressed the portion that did relate to you.
Were you just throwing up Cash to deflect?

Johnny or Margaret?
Made my point in the post last night if you read it.
Gaming or entitled, which is which. How does someone become entitled and how do you know whose entitled and whose gaming and isn't being entitled a bit of gaming even?
Point today, if you can convince people you'll accept them as entitled and fight for their cause if they vote for you, then you're gaming.
But you're the one picking up the cheque at the end of the day and your voters still aren't one more bit entitled.
Its mad isn't it.

James Brown

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Johnny or Margaret?
Made my point in the post last night if you read it.
Gaming or entitled, which is which. How does someone become entitled and how do you know whose entitled and whose gaming and isn't being entitled a bit of gaming even?
Point today, if you can convince people you'll accept them as entitled and fight for their cause if they vote for you, then you're gaming.
But you're the one picking up the cheque at the end of the day and your voters still aren't one more bit entitled.
Its mad isn't it.

So you genuinely meant Johnny Cash the singer was gaming the Irish housing system? It's highly unlikely Bish :rolleyes:

I mentioned the crises. A poster inquired about Margret Cash. You followed with three questions regarding Margret Cash and if there were more like her. You answered none of my questions.
Gaming is using a system in place. Cash did nothing illegal did she? So technically she was entitled.
You are using Margret Cash and an undefined anecdotal number of others to say what about the housing/child homeless crises exactly?
The analogy to politicians stands; if I throw up Lowry or Haughey etc. (numerous others) can I argue against giving politicians any monetary responsibility? Or do we try tackle and police the system better?

My original point was rather than the traditional back and forth between FF/FG, some of the electorate went elsewhere, IMO, due to the record breaking crises.

Brendan Bendar

Usually you’ll find that those who “don’t care about picking up the check” are not contributing too much to the cheque.

Bishop of hope

James Brown wrote: »

So you genuinely meant Johnny Cash the singer was gaming the Irish housing system? It's highly unlikely Bish :rolleyes:

I mentioned the crises. A poster inquired about Margret Cash. You followed with three questions regarding Margret Cash and if there were more like her. You answered none of my questions.
Gaming is using a system in place. Cash did nothing illegal did she? So technically she was entitled.
You are using Margret Cash and an undefined anecdotal number of others to say what about the housing/child homeless crises exactly?
The analogy to politicians stands; if I throw up Lowry or Haughey etc. (numerous others) can I argue against giving politicians any monetary responsibility? Or do we try tackle and police the system better?

My original point was rather than the traditional back and forth between FF/FG, some of the electorate went elsewhere, IMO, due to the record breaking crises.

Hardly forty shades of green Johnny now.
A male name comparison just.
Your opinion on why isn't necessarily right though that point is taken.
It can be portrayed as that and loads of arguments that things could be better can be made.
But going back to where we were 10 years ago it's a miracle we are where we are.
But if you want to trap a chicken or pheasent, even though he is in a good feed field or yard, scatter a few seeds of oats along a dusty path he will follow that trail till he lands himself in your trap.

RandomViewer

Anyone else get a hit on PAYE this week ?

Bishop of hope

RandomViewer wrote: »

Anyone else get a hit on PAYE this week ?

I'm self employed RV, but I was talking to a lad earlier today said something about it, in a phone shop, he gets paid monthly.
No conversation on it, but he said he got an extra hit this month.

CrazyFather1

RandomViewer wrote: »

Anyone else get a hit on PAYE this week ?

You will be waiting a while to get an answer around this forum
Better off posting here: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=10

Bishop of hope

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

You will be waiting a while to get an answer around this forum
Better off posting here: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=10

He might be trying to make a point as well as asking.

James Brown

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Hardly forty shades of green Johnny now.
A male name comparison just.
Your opinion on why isn't necessarily right though that point is taken.
It can be portrayed as that and loads of arguments that things could be better can be made.
But going back to where we were 10 years ago it's a miracle we are where we are.
But if you want to trap a chicken or pheasent, even though he is in a good feed field or yard, scatter a few seeds of oats along a dusty path he will follow that trail till he lands himself in your trap.

When you take generational debt and record breaking crises into account it's not. There's a big problem with folk looking at an element of how we are faring while ignoring other areas. That's why we were breaking records year on year IMO.

You've still not tackled my points or addressed the questions. No mind. Jingles didn't either.

Sorry I don't speak Bren.

CrazyFather1

Bishop of hope wrote: »

He might be trying to make a point as well as asking.

Normally this thread is full of responses by the second, question about PAYE and tumbleweed. :P

James Brown

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

Normally this thread is full of responses by the second, question about PAYE and tumbleweed. :P

This is you right?

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

You will be waiting a while to get an answer around this forum
Better off posting here: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=10

RandomViewer

Bishop of hope wrote: »

I'm self employed RV, but I was talking to a lad earlier today said something about it, in a phone shop, he gets paid monthly.
No conversation on it, but he said he got an extra hit this month.

Fortnightly, paid no heed on the earlier payday as Christmas has a mix of wages, holidays etc.., but todays was a good bit down, despite a payrise ,didnt think they'd upped anything in the budget

smurgen

The usual FFG cheerleaders in here pissing and moaning. Jasyis. Do ye lads do any work or is this work? They should really add management at the end of strategic communications unit. Would do much for the meaning but the acronym would be on point then.

CrazyFather1

smurgen wrote: »

The usual FFG cheerleaders in here pissing and moaning. Jasyis. Do ye lads do any work or is this work? They should really add management at the end of strategic communications unit. Would do much for the meaning but the acronym would be on point then.

Top posters on this thread.
FrancieBrady 817
James Brown 678
smurgen 536

smurgen

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

Top posters on this thread.
FrancieBrady 817
James Brown 678
smurgen 536

Part 1? Lol

Bubbaclaus

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

Top posters on this thread.
FrancieBrady 817
James Brown 678
smurgen 536

Lol that blew back badly

smurgen

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Lol that blew back badly

Era best not to mention the other threads those that go bump in the night. Some truly disgruntled folk about!

markodaly

smurgen wrote: »

Era best not to mention the other threads those that go bump in the night. Some truly disgruntled folk about!

What threads are they exactly?

Cluedo Monopoly

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

Top posters on this thread.
FrancieBrady 817
James Brown 678
smurgen 536

We have had great ammunition to be fair and their antics are very very very hard to defend. Even Blanch gives up

Most enjoyable government in decades. They've made the lockdowns fly by Can you believe that Golfgate was only 5 months ago?

May they have many more months of it! Who knew the end of Civil War politics would be so rewarding...

Bubbaclaus

smurgen wrote: »

Era best not to mention the other threads those that go bump in the night. Some truly disgruntled folk about!

Which ones specifically smurg? We can take a look at the number of posts per poster in those ones too, to see has too much spare time in their hands

James Brown

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

We have had great ammunition to be fair and their antics are very very very hard to defend. Even Blanch gives up

Most enjoyable government in decades. They've made the lockdowns fly by Can you believe that Golfgate was only 5 months ago?

May they have many more months of it! Who knew the end of Civil War politics would be so rewarding...

I don't see the problem with posting about FF/FG/Greens in the FF/FG/Green thread. Interesting the way discussing government is 'not cool' with some lobbyists despite the thread title. I would have thought supporters of FF/FG/Greens would be all over talking up their teams.

Ten of Swords

Why are we discussing other posters instead of the thread topic?

Back on topic please