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FF/FG/Green Government - part 2

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭CrazyFather1


    So FF I see are making waves about IVF and bringing in option to allow people to get easier and via the public system
    A great initiative but this was all promised under the last government by Leo and seemingly since 2012. Never delivered, hopefully it will make it this time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,992 ✭✭✭✭blanch152



    "The clearest message is mandatory quarantine, why in God's name are you resisting something which is necessary"

    Eh, didn't Tony Holohan say that wouldn't work.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    This just goes to show how untouchable this shambles government thinks it is. No disciplinary action for leaking confidential documents yet disciplinary action for appearing to undermine anything to do with government if you're a civil servant.

    “Do not use social media accounts to undermine the minister, the department, the government or government policy. This includes commenting on/‘liking’, ‘not liking’ or otherwise, endorsing or appearing to endorse any political or public policy related issues online."

    “Staff are expected to abide by the requirements and are aware that any breach of the Civil Service Code of Standards and Behaviour may result in disciplinary action.”

    https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/civil-servants-told-not-to-undermine-their-minister-or-policies-in-social-media-posts-40044836.html?__twitter_impression=true


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,599 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    smurgen wrote: »
    This just goes to show how untouchable this shambles government thinks it is. No disciplinary action for leaking confidential documents yet disciplinary action for appearing to undermine anything to do with government if you're a civil servant.

    “Do not use social media accounts to undermine the minister, the department, the government or government policy. This includes commenting on/‘liking’, ‘not liking’ or otherwise, endorsing or appearing to endorse any political or public policy related issues online."

    “Staff are expected to abide by the requirements and are aware that any breach of the Civil Service Code of Standards and Behaviour may result in disciplinary action.”


    https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/civil-servants-told-not-to-undermine-their-minister-or-policies-in-social-media-posts-40044836.html?__twitter_impression=true

    No disciplinary action..... Is Stanno still chair of that committee he managed to slip into.

    After that gaffe surely he must have had his collar felt and shown the door.

    No?

    Whose in charge in that party, some geezers up in the high hills sending semaphore signals down, some lads operating the puppet strings.

    #notanormalparty.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    No disciplinary action..... Is Stanno still chair of that committee he managed to slip into.

    After that gaffe surely he must have had his collar felt and shown the door.

    No?

    Whose in charge in that party, some geezers up in the high hills sending semaphore signals down, some lads operating the puppet strings.

    #notanormalparty.

    Don't understand anything there.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    May as well put the Keeling job page up in time this year

    https://keelings.ie/corporate/careers-at-keelings/

    25% unemployment , if they can't find anyone resident in the country this year its time to pull the shutters


  • Registered Users Posts: 69,321 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    No disciplinary action..... Is Stanno still chair of that committee he managed to slip into.

    After that gaffe surely he must have had his collar felt and shown the door.

    No?

    Whose in charge in that party, some geezers up in the high hills sending semaphore signals down, some lads operating the puppet strings.

    #notanormalparty.

    There was action Brendi. He was furloughed for a week and his colleagues were happy that he continue.

    Leo confessed to wrongdoing...was he disciplined or did they circle the wagons to ensure he wouldn't be?


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    So FF I see are making waves about IVF and bringing in option to allow people to get easier and via the public system
    A great initiative but this was all promised under the last government by Leo and seemingly since 2012. Never delivered, hopefully it will make it this time.

    Actually, it was available back in the late 80’s. Never knew that it was withdrawn. No doubt some saddos moaned about the waste of money without looking at the bigger picture. Those kiddies are the ones who will be paying our State pensions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    smurgen wrote: »
    This just goes to show how untouchable this shambles government thinks it is. No disciplinary action for leaking confidential documents yet disciplinary action for appearing to undermine anything to do with government if you're a civil servant.

    “Do not use social media accounts to undermine the minister, the department, the government or government policy. This includes commenting on/‘liking’, ‘not liking’ or otherwise, endorsing or appearing to endorse any political or public policy related issues online."

    “Staff are expected to abide by the requirements and are aware that any breach of the Civil Service Code of Standards and Behaviour may result in disciplinary action.”

    https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/civil-servants-told-not-to-undermine-their-minister-or-policies-in-social-media-posts-40044836.html?__twitter_impression=true

    Pity we can't hold government ministers to such a standrd.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    smurgen wrote: »
    This just goes to show how untouchable this shambles government thinks it is. No disciplinary action for leaking confidential documents yet disciplinary action for appearing to undermine anything to do with government if you're a civil servant.

    “Do not use social media accounts to undermine the minister, the department, the government or government policy. This includes commenting on/‘liking’, ‘not liking’ or otherwise, endorsing or appearing to endorse any political or public policy related issues online."

    “Staff are expected to abide by the requirements and are aware that any breach of the Civil Service Code of Standards and Behaviour may result in disciplinary action.”

    https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/civil-servants-told-not-to-undermine-their-minister-or-policies-in-social-media-posts-40044836.html?__twitter_impression=true

    Pity we can't hold government ministers to such a standard.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope




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    Should be fun!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭CrazyFather1



    Im sure twitter will be lit up with "hundreds" of people posting about it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,665 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Im sure twitter will be lit up with "hundreds" of people posting about it.

    Nah people are angry at cervical smear fiasco and the fact that Varadkar stood up and lied to the women in the Dàil. But sure you will probably defend that and blame the poor women for getting a smear test.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,665 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Should be fun!

    About as much fun as watching this poor woman, would that be it Maryanne? All you and your government support friends are probably sitting in a room and laughing at the poor woman being dragged through the courts despite being promised that this would not happen by your messiah Leo Varadkar. Most people couldn't giver a rats arse about Woulfe.

    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1356973192200523776


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭CrazyFather1


    Floppybits wrote: »
    About as much fun as watching this poor woman, would that be it Maryanne? All you and your government support friends are probably sitting in a room and laughing at the poor woman being dragged through the courts despite being promised that this would not happen by your messiah Leo Varadkar. Most people couldn't giver a rats arse about Woulfe.

    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1356973192200523776

    Why would you use that poor women's video in some pathetic attempt at a dig a poster on here? what is wrong with you?

    I'm sure she didn't make it so people like you could fire it across social media in a petty squabble over politics.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,665 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Why would you use that poor women's video in some pathetic attempt at a dig a poster on here? what is wrong with you?

    I'm sure she didn't make it so people like you could fire it across social media in a petty squabble over politics.

    Nothing wrong with me but you wanna ask yourself the same question. You were saying Twitter will probably be angry at Woulfe taking his seat on the Supreme Court but now actually people are angry at how badly the women involved in the cervical check scandal have been treated and how Leo Varadkar lied to them that is where the anger is on Twitter, no gives a rats arse about Woulfe, all he is a beacon from FG corruption and cronyism.

    But you are your FG mates will spin this to deflect from this real issue. Why was this woman made go through the courts when it they were promised they wouldn't have too?


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    Floppybits wrote: »
    About as much fun as watching this poor woman, would that be it Maryanne? All you and your government support friends are probably sitting in a room and laughing at the poor woman being dragged through the courts despite being promised that this would not happen by your messiah Leo Varadkar. Most people couldn't giver a rats arse about Woulfe.

    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1356973192200523776

    What has that Twitter dump got to do with Woulfe? Shame on you using this unfortunate ladies tragic case for a cheap dig.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,665 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    What has that Twitter dump got to do with Woulfe? Shame on you using this unfortunate ladies tragic case for a cheap dig.

    Deflect, deflect, deflect Maryanne thats all you can do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭CrazyFather1


    Floppybits wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with me but you wanna ask yourself the same question. You were saying Twitter will probably be angry at Woulfe taking his seat on the Supreme Court but now actually people are angry at how badly the women involved in the cervical check scandal have been treated and how Leo Varadkar lied to them that is where the anger is on Twitter, no gives a rats arse about Woulfe, all he is a beacon from FG corruption and cronyism.

    But you are your FG mates will spin this to deflect from this real issue. Why was this woman made go through the courts when it they were promised they wouldn't have too?

    I don't support any of the parties in government.

    You are not worth the time, disgusting person. You are worse than any of the politicians. They should have resolved all of this out of court. It is a disgrace but it is 100 times worse when you think it is ok to throw images of the woman around a forum just to get a dig.


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    Floppybits wrote: »
    Deflect, deflect, deflect Maryanne thats all you can do.

    Kettle. Pot. Black.


  • Registered Users Posts: 69,321 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    What has that Twitter dump got to do with Woulfe? Shame on you using this unfortunate ladies tragic case for a cheap dig.

    That's a 'Twitter dump'? What did you call it when it appeared on RTE news on the TV last evening?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭CrazyFather1


    What has that Twitter dump got to do with Woulfe? Shame on you using this unfortunate ladies tragic case for a cheap dig.

    Some people are just disgusting. A comment about Woulfe and this is the carry on. Actually can't say what I feel. Really is some disgusting people in this World


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,665 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    I don't support any of the parties in government.

    You are not worth the time, disgusting person. You are worse than any of the politicians. They should have resolved all of this out of court. It is a disgrace but it is 100 times worse when you think it is ok to throw images of the woman around a forum just to get a dig.

    Get way outta, you are on here most days defending and spinning as much as you can with the rest of them.

    in a post you said "Im sure twitter will be lit up with "hundreds" of people posting about it." I pointed out that no cares about Woulfe that people are angry at what the woman affected by the cervical check fiasco and being put through and posted the statement from the women yesterday to show that but tell you what if it makes you feel superior and righteous and better about yourself you go right ahead and keep attacking me for posting what people are angry about on twitter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Floppybits wrote: »
    Get way outta, you are on here most days defending and spinning as much as you can with the rest of them.

    in a post you said "Im sure twitter will be lit up with "hundreds" of people posting about it." I pointed out that no cares about Woulfe that people are angry at what the woman affected by the cervical check fiasco and being put through and posted the statement from the women yesterday to show that but tell you what if it makes you feel superior and righteous and better about yourself you go right ahead and keep attacking me for posting what people are angry about on twitter.

    Her treatment shows us, as if we needed reminding, that the state and FF/FG have not moved on since the Mother and Baby homes days. Shameful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭CrazyFather1


    Floppybits wrote: »
    Get way outta, you are on here most days defending and spinning as much as you can with the rest of them.

    in a post you said "Im sure twitter will be lit up with "hundreds" of people posting about it." I pointed out that no cares about Woulfe that people are angry at what the woman affected by the cervical check fiasco and being put through and posted the statement from the women yesterday to show that but tell you what if it makes you feel superior and righteous and better about yourself you go right ahead and keep attacking me for posting what people are angry about on twitter.

    A comment about Woulfe, yet you are so pathetic you think it is ok to try drag in that women as some sort of political dig. Then make excuses.....disgusting person

    The rest of the mob will come wading in as usual....all as bad as each other


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,665 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Kettle. Pot. Black.

    Not at all. Your good friend Crazyfather1 is the one that said "Im sure twitter will be lit up with "hundreds" of people posting about it." and I posted what people are angry about on twitter and it is certainly not FG stooge Woulfe taking his place in the Supreme Court but as I said your good fried Crazyfather1 if it makes you feel superior and righteous about yourself by spinning and deflecting away from the treatment of those women and how they were lied to by Leo Varadkar go right ahead as you are going.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,665 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    A comment about Woulfe, yet you are so pathetic you think it is ok to try drag in that women as some sort of political dig. Then make excuses.....disgusting person

    The rest of the mob will come wading in as usual....all as bad as each other

    Keep deflecting like a good boy there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭CrazyFather1


    Her treatment shows us, as if we needed reminding, that the state and FF/FG have not moved on since the Mother and Baby homes days. Shameful.

    What happened those women is a disgrace and the government should be ashamed and they should never of had to go to court.
    But to use that video in the way the poster did is disgusting. The conversation was about Woulfe. Nothing else.

    It seems for some people they don't give a f**k about the person, just a petty dig at the government. Fire away but this has gone to a new low.
    If you want to back them up, off ahead but at least some of us have decency and will call it out.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,665 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    What happened those women is a disgrace and the government should be ashamed and they should never of had to go to court.
    But to use that video in the way the poster did is disgusting. The conversation was about Woulfe. Nothing else.

    It seems for some people they don't give a f**k about the person, just a petty dig at the government. Fire away but this has gone to a new low.
    If you want to back them up, off ahead but at least some of us have decency and will call it out.

    It was until you decided to bring Twitter into the conversation and have your little laugh at people getting angry on twitter about Woulfe but when I pointed out that is not the case and the people are angry at the treatment of the women in cervical check nightmare and how they have been treated and you go off on one as if someone compared a bowl of Shamrock to a salad bowl.

    Like I said no one gives a crap about Woulfe, he is a beacon there to remind everyone of FG corruption and cronyism that you are happy to defend that go right ahead but stop with the faux outrage.


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