FF/FG/Green Government - part 2

Cluedo Monopoly

Holly Cairns (SDs) has just skewered O'Gorman. Oh my!
He was taken apart! One of the best take-downs I have ever seen. She had him at every level.

Her point is valid - the commission was extended many times when they needed more time for the report. Now that the survivors need more time, he needs to ask the AG if it's possible? Lies.

'I wrote to the Commission about accessing the backup files'...Muppet. There is a week left.

The Greens are getting hammered for protecting FFG.

Cluedo Monopoly

Email as many Green TDs as you can find to tell them to support the SD motion on Wednesday.

McMurphy

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

Holly Cairns (SDs) has just skewered O'Gorman. Oh my!
He was taken apart! One of the best take-downs I have ever seen. She had him at every level.

Her point is valid - the commission was extended many times when they needed more time for the report. Now that the survivors need more time, he needs to ask the AG if it's possible? Lies.

'I wrote to the Commission about accessing the backup files'...Muppet. There is a week left.

The Greens are getting hammered for protecting FFG.

Listened with disbelief to that.

McMurphy

McMurphy wrote: »

They should not be allowed near social media, they're disastrous at it.

If you want a really good laugh, have a look at "Neale Photoshop Richmonds apprentice."

AKA Cllr David McManus.

Feckin horsing out 20/30 tweets a day, most of them mumbo jumbo about the shinners or stuff he's obviously only heard about the day before yesterday, but thinks he's an expert in.

Repeatedly handed his hole, it's embarrassing really. His constituents getting really great value for their taxes with that clown.

As I saying.


https://twitter.com/Patking19237937/status/1363480049270337536?s=19

James Brown

Bishop of hope wrote: »

I'm having a think on this and wondering just what is urgent to gardai.
We have our Tánaiste firstly, having his, character and credibility challenged by this case.
Then on the other hand you have the Tánaiste, deputy leader of the country, being investigated for suspected leaking of confidential documents and constantly in touch with all sorts of confidential info working away.
And the Gardai say they haven't started their full investigation yet?
Cmon lads, surely it's time to get to the bottom of this one way or another, get your thumb out!
https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/gardai-may-seize-varadkars-phone-records-over-leak-40114193.html

As with Noonan, if they close ranks it'll be tough to get to the bottom of it.

McMurphy

Another PR disaster for them today again on social media. Why oh why do they do it to themselves?


https://twitter.com/Mogue131/status/1363490137863315463?s=19

Floppybits

McMurphy wrote: »

Another PR disaster for them today again on social media. Why oh why do they do it to themselves?


https://twitter.com/Mogue131/status/1363490137863315463?s=19

Arrogance

Floppybits

Floppybits wrote: »

Arrogance

its pure trumpism/ukip type tactics,keep.gaslighting and lying to exhaust the opposition and present them as deranged,so.you.can have a free reign to spout complete horsesh1t,which eventually become regarded as truth



For a long term.view.of this is look at the rethoric/coverage of EU policies within the uk and its newspapers....

Which lead to any nonsesne/misrepresentations being published and never fact checked....

From "bendy bananas" to last week sammy wilson refering to the NI protocal as "mr barniers protocol"....it wouldnt exist without the consent of the uk government,blaming eu/barnier is a complete misrepresentstion of facts




The above is why martin is trying to say there was no bank bailout or no ira apolgy ever issued,eventually such lies,will be left pass as fact unchallenged

McMurphy

Seen a councillor on SM earlier trying to imply that rather than it being travel, it was actually "house gatherings" that resulted in the Brazilian variant appearing here. Seriously.

This man makes a lot of sense, it's only two minutes long, so worth a watch.

https://twitter.com/walls2/status/1363125852733595651?s=09

Cluedo Monopoly

https://idahocafe.tumblr.com/post/643723682811887616/a-few-carefully-chosen-words-to-our-taoiseach-we

Well said.

FrancieBrady

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

https://idahocafe.tumblr.com/post/643723682811887616/a-few-carefully-chosen-words-to-our-taoiseach-we

Well said.

Powerful:

We don’t understand why 5,600 people flew into Ireland from countries on Covid warning lists last month.

We don’t understand why you still haven’t worked out a quarantine plan.

We don’t understand the communication shambles.

We don’t understand the contempt that you show to half a million people.

All we ask of you, is leadership, We don’t expect dynamism, just leadership.

Finty Lemon

FT
The German government is coming under mounting attack from business groups angry at its refusal to ease the country’s coronavirus restrictions, as pressure grows for an exit strategy out of one of Europe’s longest shutdowns.

“Businesses are growing increasingly desperate, and angry,” said Guido Zöllick, head of DEHOGA, the German association of hotels and restaurants. “More and more fear for their existence.”

Helvetica News
Italy's government last week blocked ski resorts from reopening, the day before skiing was due to be allowed for the first time this winter season due to coronavirus restrictions.
There is also a ban on non-essential travel until February 25th.
“It's a disaster. For a week now, we have been readying the slopes for the opening and preparing the health protocol," said Denis Trabucchi, an Italian ski instructor.

LISBON, Portugal -- The pressure appears to be getting to Portugal’s government after almost two weeks at the top of the world rankings of daily new COVID-19 cases and deaths by size of population.

Recent flubs include mixed government messages on mask types and online teaching, regular pandemic news conferences discontinued without explanation, scant official information on what foreign help is coming and scandals over queue-jumping for vaccines.

OTTAWA — Canada seemed to be off to a quick start. Its regulator had approved a coronavirus vaccine codeveloped by Pfizer just ahead of the United States, and national newscasts were soon filled with images of people getting their first injections.

But the hopes raised by the vaccination launch in December — buoyed, too, by news that Canada had ordered doses equal to 10 times its population — have soured. Production issues at Pfizer and Moderna, makers of the only two vaccines currently approved in Canada, have led to reduced shipments — including some weeks in which no vaccine has arrived at all.

Paris
The French government has eased health protocols in schools just a fortnight after it tightened them, prompting condemnation of an 'about-face' from parents and teachers amid concerns over the spread of Covid-19 variants.

As pupils in Zone C prepared to break up for their winter holidays, and those in Zone A finished the first week of their two-week break last Friday, some 1,599 classes and 103 schools were closed due to Covid-19, according to the Ministry of Education.

However, health protocols, which were reinforced on February 1 were relaxed on the same day, prompting the parents' group Ecole et familles oubliées (School and forgotten families) to issue a press release criticising the "secret publication" and rules "completely disconnected from the reality of health conditions in schools".

Stockholm
New proposals announced this week would give Sweden the option to shut down many non-essential businesses. But the government has not set a date or a threshold for what the situation would need to look like in order for it to use these powers, prompting criticism from the commercial sector.

In January, Sweden rushed through a pandemic law that would allow the government to, among other things, close shops and limit their opening times or customer numbers.

This week proposals were announced to expand that law, including by ordering shutdowns of other businesses such as hairdressers, beauty salons and switching restaurants to takeaway only, as well as empowering local councils to set limits on visitor numbers at public spaces and fine individuals who violate those limits.

If implemented, these measures would bring the measures in Sweden much closer to those seen in most other countries during the past year of the pandemic. But it's not yet clear if and when that would happen.


Amsterdam
Described as the worst violence to have erupted in the Netherlands in more than four decades, the riots in Dutch towns and cities this week have become a seminal moment in the country's bid to contain the spread of coronavirus.

Sparked by the approval of an overnight curfew by the Dutch parliament, which came into force on Saturday, violent protests rocked Amsterdam and Eindhoven before spreading in the subsequent days to Rotterdam, The Hague, Den Bosch, Gouda, Amersfoort, Haarlem and further afield.

Organising on social media apps, the predominantly young protesters rampaged through city streets vandalising and looting shops, throwing stones and fireworks at police, and, in some instances, setting cars on fire. In the town of Urk, a coronavirus testing facility was torched. In Enschede, stones were thrown at a hospital.

Whatisthisnow

Finty Lemon wrote: »

FT
The German government is coming under mounting attack from business groups angry at its refusal to ease the country’s coronavirus restrictions, as pressure grows for an exit strategy out of one of Europe’s longest shutdowns.

“Businesses are growing increasingly desperate, and angry,” said Guido Zöllick, head of DEHOGA, the German association of hotels and restaurants. “More and more fear for their existence.”

Helvetica News
Italy's government last week blocked ski resorts from reopening, the day before skiing was due to be allowed for the first time this winter season due to coronavirus restrictions.
There is also a ban on non-essential travel until February 25th.
“It's a disaster. For a week now, we have been readying the slopes for the opening and preparing the health protocol," said Denis Trabucchi, an Italian ski instructor.

LISBON, Portugal -- The pressure appears to be getting to Portugal’s government after almost two weeks at the top of the world rankings of daily new COVID-19 cases and deaths by size of population.

Recent flubs include mixed government messages on mask types and online teaching, regular pandemic news conferences discontinued without explanation, scant official information on what foreign help is coming and scandals over queue-jumping for vaccines.

OTTAWA — Canada seemed to be off to a quick start. Its regulator had approved a coronavirus vaccine codeveloped by Pfizer just ahead of the United States, and national newscasts were soon filled with images of people getting their first injections.

But the hopes raised by the vaccination launch in December — buoyed, too, by news that Canada had ordered doses equal to 10 times its population — have soured. Production issues at Pfizer and Moderna, makers of the only two vaccines currently approved in Canada, have led to reduced shipments — including some weeks in which no vaccine has arrived at all.

Paris
The French government has eased health protocols in schools just a fortnight after it tightened them, prompting condemnation of an 'about-face' from parents and teachers amid concerns over the spread of Covid-19 variants.

As pupils in Zone C prepared to break up for their winter holidays, and those in Zone A finished the first week of their two-week break last Friday, some 1,599 classes and 103 schools were closed due to Covid-19, according to the Ministry of Education.

However, health protocols, which were reinforced on February 1 were relaxed on the same day, prompting the parents' group Ecole et familles oubliées (School and forgotten families) to issue a press release criticising the "secret publication" and rules "completely disconnected from the reality of health conditions in schools".

Stockholm
New proposals announced this week would give Sweden the option to shut down many non-essential businesses. But the government has not set a date or a threshold for what the situation would need to look like in order for it to use these powers, prompting criticism from the commercial sector.

In January, Sweden rushed through a pandemic law that would allow the government to, among other things, close shops and limit their opening times or customer numbers.

This week proposals were announced to expand that law, including by ordering shutdowns of other businesses such as hairdressers, beauty salons and switching restaurants to takeaway only, as well as empowering local councils to set limits on visitor numbers at public spaces and fine individuals who violate those limits.

If implemented, these measures would bring the measures in Sweden much closer to those seen in most other countries during the past year of the pandemic. But it's not yet clear if and when that would happen.


Amsterdam
Described as the worst violence to have erupted in the Netherlands in more than four decades, the riots in Dutch towns and cities this week have become a seminal moment in the country's bid to contain the spread of coronavirus.

Sparked by the approval of an overnight curfew by the Dutch parliament, which came into force on Saturday, violent protests rocked Amsterdam and Eindhoven before spreading in the subsequent days to Rotterdam, The Hague, Den Bosch, Gouda, Amersfoort, Haarlem and further afield.

Organising on social media apps, the predominantly young protesters rampaged through city streets vandalising and looting shops, throwing stones and fireworks at police, and, in some instances, setting cars on fire. In the town of Urk, a coronavirus testing facility was torched. In Enschede, stones were thrown at a hospital.

Theres a protest planned for next week planned for Dublin and its getting plenty of attention on social media.

I want an end to this madness but going on streets in large numbers is crazy

All it would take is our Govt having honesty and respect for its citizens and tell us the truth and not leak and leak to newspapers to get in before Leo does it

They dont, they dont care for anyone but their supporters and anyone whos not that is seen as some kind of enemy

Floppybits

Whatisthisnow wrote: »

Theres a protest planned for next week planned for Dublin and its getting plenty of attention on social media.

I want an end to this madness but going on streets in large numbers is crazy

All it would take is our Govt having honesty and respect for its citizens and tell us the truth and not leak and leak to newspapers to get in before Leo does it

They dont, they dont care for anyone but their supporters and anyone whos not that is seen as some kind of enemy

They don't even care about supporters. They give them a pat on the back and off they go. They would throw their supporters under a bus if they thought it would get them a leg up. All they care about is filling their own pockets and looking after themselves.

Cluedo Monopoly

McEntee had a tough time on Radio 1 this morning. She was asked multiple times to explain what Martin meant by the 'middle of the summer'.
She deflected and waffled and eventually said there would be clarity this week.
She then said it would be 3-4 weeks before hotel quarantining was implemented.
Jennings asked her twice whether she understood why the public are 'infuriated'. She acknowledged it at least.
The TDs being forced to defend Martin/Leo's actions last week must be furious too.
I wonder too whether Martin and Leo are actually on good terms at present. I very much doubt it. It looks very strained.

Whatisthisnow

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

McEntee had a tough time on Radio 1 this morning. She was asked multiple times to explain what Martin meant by the 'middle of the summer'.
She deflected and waffled and eventually said there would be clarity this week.
She then said it would be 3-4 weeks before hotel quarantining was implemented.
Jennings asked her twice whether she understood why the public are 'infuriated'. She acknowledged it at least.
The TDs being forced to defend Martin/Leo's actions last week must be furious too.
I wonder too whether Martin and Leo are actually on good terms at present. I very much doubt it. It looks very strained.

They are obvs not on good terms. Leo going on solo runs was the start of it, Mícheál had enough and jumped the gun last week by going to the papers and its backfired big time

McMurphy

McMurphy wrote: »

Seen a councillor on SM earlier trying to imply that rather than it being travel, it was actually "house gatherings" that resulted in the Brazilian variant appearing here. Seriously.

This man makes a lot of sense, it's only two minutes long, so worth a watch.

https://twitter.com/walls2/status/1363125852733595651?s=09

Main point is that not one person in the world knows what is in the future.
* If restrictions are eased too soon, we risk another spike
* The system of checks does work, finding 3 Brazilian positives proves this
* Try flying into the country without a valid negative PCR test!
* Gardai shouldn’t have to be called to churches because too many people ignore the guidelines regarding funerals and weddings nor to the subsequent gatherings in private houses.
* Airline staff want to protect themselves and their families and will scrutinise all test results. How many positives are as the result of travel?
Finally, anyone with a brain knows that caution is needed. It’s up to each and every one of us to do the best we can to protect ourselves and those close to us.

McMurphy

Deleted User wrote: »

Main point is that not one person in the world knows what is in the future.
* If restrictions are eased too soon, we risk another spike
* The system of checks does work, finding 3 Brazilian positives proves this
* Try flying into the country without a valid negative PCR test!
* Gardai shouldn’t have to be called to churches because too many people ignore the guidelines regarding funerals and weddings nor to the subsequent gatherings in private houses.
* Airline staff want to protect themselves and their families and will scrutinise all test results. How many positives are as the result of travel?
Finally, anyone with a brain knows that caution is needed. It’s up to each and every one of us to do the best we can to protect ourselves and those close to us.

Literally every single one maryanne. Every. Single. One.

Floppybits

Whatisthisnow wrote: »

They are obvs not on good terms. Leo going on solo runs was the start of it, Mícheál had enough and jumped the gun last week by going to the papers and its backfired big time

There seems to be a game going on between them to see who can get the jump on the other. This is the reason why this government is pathetic at communications when you have one trying to out do the other.

Cluedo Monopoly

Whatisthisnow wrote: »

They are obvs not on good terms. Leo going on solo runs was the start of it, Mícheál had enough and jumped the gun last week by going to the papers and its backfired big time

So it's Ego over Country now. Lovely.

They need to formalise all their Covid level/date communications since they cannot be trusted.

McMurphy

McMurphy wrote: »

Literally every single one maryanne. Every. Single. One.

Have you got a source for that claim?

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Have you got a source for that claim?

Would commomsense not tell yous that travel is what brought it into the country on day 1 and its spread since then??


The virus didnt magic out ot thin air here,someone had to have brought it here?

Bishop of hope

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Have you got a source for that claim?

It's a trick remark to get your goat MA.
It was imported in here after all.
Pay no heed to the small mindedness of some the anti govt chatter in here, sure if SF or the left had been in power we'd never have had a serious outbreak, everyone would have been long gone!

grayzer75

Deleted User wrote: »

Have you got a source for that claim?

The very first case and every other subsequent variant here was imported. The virus didn't originate here, it was brought in through travel and spread.

Bishop of hope

Bishop of hope wrote: »

It's a trick remark to get your goat MA.
It was imported in here after all.
Pay no heed to the small mindedness of some, the anti govt chatter in here, sure if SF or the left had been in power we'd never have had a, serious outbreak, everyone would have been long gone!

We could and should have persued a zero covid stragedy


Are we the worst affected small island nation in the world in terms of fatalities?

Our approach (and the eu) has been an utter failure since day 1......only in the west,has covid caused utter devestation on scale it has


The west and eu approach to vaccine distributation has been a diaster,we have left the poorest in 3rd world down....virtually all 3rd world countries now relying on chinese and russian vaccines,

The long term geo-politics on this,will be shattering to eu/western influence on the world......whether this a good or bad thing,depends upon ones personal view,i guess

McMurphy

Deleted User wrote: »

Have you got a source for that claim?

The virus originated in Wuhan, China.

I don't think it arrived in Ireland via email, or DHL in a jiffy bag Maryanne.

It came here via foreign travel. Rocket science it ain't

Bishop of hope

[Deleted User] wrote: »

We could and should have persued a zero covid stragedy


Are we the worst affected small island nation in the world in terms of fatalities?

Our approach (and the eu) has been an utter failure since day 1......only in the west,has covid caused utter devestation on scale it has


The west and eu approach to vaccine distributation has been a diaster,we have left the poorest in 3rd world down....virtually all 3rd world countries now relying on chinese and russian vaccines,

The long term geo-politics on this,will be shattering to eu/western influence on the world......whether this a good or bad thing,depends upon ones personal view,i guess

You should have gone east, and we are not the worst island nation with covid.
Technically we aren't even an island.

Whatisthisnow

Bishop of hope wrote: »

It's a trick remark to get your goat MA.
It was imported in here after all.
Pay no heed to the small mindedness of some the anti govt chatter in here, sure if SF or the left had been in power we'd never have had a serious outbreak, everyone would have been long gone!

Thats the response of someone who cannot defend the Govt on it so trys to deflect and makr a joke of it all

Whatisthisnow

Bishop of hope wrote: »

You should have gone east, and we are not the worst island nation with covid.
Technically we aren't even an island.

We are not an island hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha

grayzer75

grayzer75 wrote: »

The very first case and every other subsequent variant here was imported. The virus didn't originate here, it was brought in through travel and spread.

Ok. Was that traveller a holiday maker, a returning emigrant, a citizen returning from a family occasion, a trucker bringing in vital supplies?