FF/FG/Green Government - part 2

Ha Long Bay · 21-10-2020 11:20pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It is referencing just one other thing this government is trying to do, today, in the Dáil.

Again what has any of this got to do with the discussion we were having?

Maybe you can reply in a genuine way, how do you see an alternative government formed with SD+SF and what would your preference be?

FrancieBrady · 21-10-2020 11:25pm

john4321 wrote: »

Again what has any of this got to do with the discussion we were having?

Maybe you can reply in a genuine way, how do you see an alternative government formed with SD+SF and what would your preference be?

It has been mentioned on and off all day as the debate was happening in the Dáil.

I think an alternate government will include FF or FG but not both. The game is up on the power swap. We won't see another FF/FG government the way this one is going.

Floppybits · 21-10-2020 11:30pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It is referencing just one other thing this government is trying to do, today, in the Dáil. Couldn't be anymore relevant to a 'government' thread.

It is relevant to the discussion when threw in your "i will sleep better tonight line because SF may not get into power and I pointed out due to this government victims of the mother and child homes won't be sleep well tonight. I could also point to the 250,000 other people who won't be sleeping easy tonight when their jobs are gone after midnight all due to this government. Your I'm alright Jack attitude is sickening.

Ha Long Bay · 21-10-2020 11:31pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

It has been mentioned on and off all day as the debate was happening in the Dáil.

I think an alternate government will include FF or FG but not both. The game is up on the power swap. We won't see another FF/FG government the way this one is going.

Do you think SF could\should go into government with FF or FG? Would you have a preference if they do?

James Brown · 21-10-2020 11:33pm

john4321 wrote: »

Great answer thanks for taking the time to reply.

I will sleep better tonight knowing SF will never have the numbers to form a government based on it.

Its sad that your only concern for the Irish public is literally anything is okay once its not SF.

Floppybits · 21-10-2020 11:36pm

john4321 wrote: »

Do you think SF could\should go into government with FF or FG? Would you have a preference if they do?

In an ideal world none of them. To me all 3 are as bad as each other.

Ha Long Bay · 21-10-2020 11:39pm

Bowie wrote: »

Its sad that your only concern for the Irish public is literally anything is okay once its not SF.

If you could show me where I said that please do.

I asked a simple question and you replied with nonsense about bingo callers etc.

Ha Long Bay · 21-10-2020 11:41pm

Floppybits wrote: »

In an ideal world none of them. To me all 3 are as bad as each other.

What is your solution then? How do you form a stable government?

James Brown · 21-10-2020 11:41pm

smurgen wrote: »

Can anyone translate this from spin to non spin?

https://twitter.com/LeoVaradkar/status/1318982223568248837?s=19

I don't recognise the movie he's quoting.

James Brown · 21-10-2020 11:42pm

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Proof read that, I'm sure I'm reading it wrong:)

Likely. Sure whatever helps you dodge discussing FF/FG

James Brown · 21-10-2020 11:45pm

john4321 wrote: »

Has a single word in your post got anything to do with what we were discussing?

The poster said they would like to see a SD + SF government I asked who they would chose to make up the additional 38 seats required to form a government.

The answer I got back was "The local Bingo regulars, Covid willing. Any adults. A random selection."

Now you reply with more nonsense about me being a government supporter and a tragic situation that happened 30 years ago.

TBF we were discussing the governments handling of covid so I wouldn't be so quick to be critical of people disinterested in the usual SF rabbit hole or arsery about the north .

My point was I'd take anybody willing to heed health experts over FF/FG. Your response was some shyte about SF.

FrancieBrady · 21-10-2020 11:46pm

john4321 wrote: »

Do you think SF could\should go into government with FF or FG? Would you have a preference if they do?

SF should go into government with whosoever they can agree a programme of government with.

No preference for me as long as the power swap is finally ended.

Ha Long Bay · 21-10-2020 11:49pm

Bowie wrote: »

TBF we were discussing the governments handling of covid so I wouldn't be so quick to be critical of people disinterested in the usual SF rabbit hole are arsery about the north .

My point was I'd take anybody willing to heed health experts if FF/FG. Your response was some shyte about SF.

Well thats not true is it?

My question was a very simple one or so I thought.

"Just on the etc. part who would you like to see make up the 38 seats required to form a government?"

James Brown · 21-10-2020 11:53pm

john4321 wrote: »

Again what has any of this got to do with the discussion we were having?

Maybe you can reply in a genuine way, how do you see an alternative government formed with SD+SF and what would your preference be?

We were discussing how the government are handling covid not the seating in a fantasy football government.

James Brown · 21-10-2020 11:54pm

john4321 wrote: »

Well thats not true is it?

My question was a very simple one or so I thought.

"Just on the etc. part who would you like to see make up the 38 seats required to form a government?"

What's not true?
You can't pose a question and dictate how the thread goes

Topgear on Dave · 21-10-2020 11:54pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

SF should go into government with whosoever they can agree a programme of government with.

No preference for me as long as the power swap is finally ended.

So without FF or FG. That'll be quite a challenge.

Ha Long Bay · 21-10-2020 11:55pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

SF should go into government with whosoever they can agree a programme of government with.

No preference for me as long as the power swap is finally ended.

Do you think Sf could agree a program of government with either party?

Topgear on Dave · 21-10-2020 11:55pm

Bowie wrote: »

What's not true?

The poster is asking quite a simple question if you could give him the decency of a straight answer.

James Brown · 21-10-2020 11:56pm

john4321 wrote: »

Do you think Sf could agree a program of government with either party?

Whats this got to do with the governments handling of covid?

Ha Long Bay · 21-10-2020 11:58pm

Bowie wrote: »

What's not true?
You can't pose a question and dictate how the thread goes

You said "Your response was some shyte about SF."

That's the part thats not true I asked a direct question about how you you see a government being formed thats all.

Ha Long Bay · 22-10-2020 12:02am

Bowie wrote: »

Whats this got to do with the governments handling of covid?

Nothing I didn't mention Covid I was asking a different question and don't see why you replied with this.

McMurphy · 22-10-2020 12:04am

john4321 wrote: »

You said "Your response was some shyte about SF."

That's the part thats not true I asked a direct question about how you you see a government being formed thats all.

Change your password John, someone hacked your account.

john4321 wrote: »

Great answer thanks for taking the time to reply.

I will sleep better tonight knowing SF will never have the numbers to form a government based on it.

Ha Long Bay · 22-10-2020 12:09am

McMurphy wrote: »

Change your password John, someone hacked your account.

Thanks for quoting me out of turn. Any opinion yourself on the post you quoted or just jumping in for the sake of it?

How do you see a government formation with SD, SF and the extras required?

McMurphy · 22-10-2020 12:17am

john4321 wrote: »

Thanks for quoting me out of turn. Any opinion yourself on the post you quoted or just jumping in for the sake of it?

How do you see a government formation with SD, SF and the extras required?

Don't be trying shyte with me John, I've been around too many corners for that auld hand.

You claimed this.

You said "Your response was some shyte about SF."

That's the part thats not true I asked a direct question about how you you see a government being formed thats all.

Yet here's the sequence of posts that proves it's you that's being carless with the truth.

1

john4321 wrote: »

Just on the etc. part who would you like to see make up the 38 seats required to form a government?

2 (note the reply mentions nothing whatsoever about SF)

Bowie wrote: »

The local Bingo regulars, Covid willing. Any adults. A random selection. I only ask they put the public first and take advice from professionals.

3 (your reply does however*)

john4321 wrote: »

Great answer thanks for taking the time to reply.

I will sleep better tonight knowing SF will never have the numbers to form a government based on it.

*Unless of course you didn't reply, which is why I advise changing the password sir.

Ha Long Bay · 22-10-2020 12:29am

McMurphy wrote: »

Don't be trying shyte with me John, I've been around too many corners for that auld hand.

You claimed this.

Yet here's the sequence of posts that proves it's you that's being carless with the truth.

1

2 (note the reply mentions nothing whatsoever about SF)

3 (your reply does however*)

*Unless of course you didn't reply, which is why I advise changing the password sir.

The first post I replied to was this:

Bowie wrote: »

Yes, I'd take myself, the SD's, SF etc. or a chance on some random folk waiting on the bus over and above these incompetents. If it's making a bad deal for the tax payer they know all the angles seemingly. Get them to govern and they are out of their depth.
You hiding behind other parties doesn't improve the record of FF/FG on tackling Covid now does it?
I gave my view. No need for me to check any party line before I give it either.

I didn't bring up SF at all, I asked a question on who would make up the government including SD and SF.

FrancieBrady · 22-10-2020 12:30am

john4321 wrote: »

Do you think Sf could agree a program of government with either party?

Why not?

The only thing in the way would be the penchant of the power swap of using smaller parties.

I believe if SF hold their support that there is a new game in town. And I think the actions of FF and FG in the previous government and this one shows that is what they are afraid off.

Ha Long Bay · 22-10-2020 12:41am

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Why not?

The only thing in the way would be the penchant of the power swap of using smaller parties.

I believe if SF hold their support that there is a new game in town. And I think the actions of FF and FG in the previous government and this one shows that is what they are afraid off.

If they hold their support which is currently very similar to the two other large parties how is it a new game in town?

This was what I originally questioned the other poster, how do you see a formation of government?

Do you see SF take 20% of the FF vote put them into the driving seat?

James Brown · 22-10-2020 12:47am

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

The poster is asking quite a simple question if you could give him the decency of a straight answer.

I doubt he will.

James Brown · 22-10-2020 12:48am

john4321 wrote: »

You said "Your response was some shyte about SF."

That's the part thats not true I asked a direct question about how you you see a government being formed thats all.

Yes. We were discussing covid and you questions to lead us to SF.

James Brown · 22-10-2020 12:52am

john4321 wrote: »

Nothing I didn't mention Covid I was asking a different question and don't see why you replied with this.

Because we were discussing covid. You posed a SF question then was critical of someone for not addressing your SF line.

Do you think FF/FG are doing a good job? Do you think if people are critical they should be able to discuss it without people trying to change the subject?

FF/FG/Green Government - part 2

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