FF/FG/Green Government - part 2

Cluedo Monopoly

That's the first thing that struck last night - Leo must also have leaked the NPHET Level 5 letter. And then went on the airwaves to attack them. To be fair I think he read the public mood correctly but it was contrived opportunism. It's what he does best.

Jinglejangle69

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

That's the first thing that struck last night - Leo must also have leaked the NPHET Level 5 letter. And then went on the airwaves to attack them. To be fair I think he read the public mood correctly but it was contrived opportunism. It's what he does best.

Any link to your claim?

Cluedo Monopoly

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

That's the first thing that struck last night - Leo must also have leaked the NPHET Level 5 letter. And then went on the airwaves to attack them. To be fair I think he read the public mood correctly but it was contrived opportunism. It's what he does best.

Whereas he is meant to lead. His attack on NPHET and delaying an obvious lockdown cost us 2 week action and added 2 weeks to the duration of the lockdown.


We'd be out of lockdown tonight (after 4 weeks), if not for Leo.
Instead; we have been in for 2 weeks, after a 2 week delay AFAIR, and have another 4 to come.


Leo has cost us all this coming 4 week lockdown.

Jinglejangle69

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Whereas he is meant to lead. His attack on NPHET and delaying an obvious lockdown cost us 2 week action and added 2 weeks to the duration of the lockdown.


We'd be out of lockdown tonight (after 4 weeks), if not for Leo.
Instead; we have been in for 2 weeks, after a 2 week delay AFAIR, and have another 4 to come.


Leo has cost us all this coming 4 week lockdown.

Or.

His message got though to people and that's why the numbers started dropping at the end of level 3.

See you can put it any way to suit your narrative.

James Brown

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Or.

His message got though to people and that's why the numbers started dropping at the end of level 3.

See you can put it any way to suit your narrative.

What message? His huff he felt left out or his leaking, talking out of school?


Its not spin if its your opinion jingles. Only if you're lying. If the electorate share the opinion he's an ego driven **** up, that's it really

Higgins5473

Hi Guys, I’ve been away for a few days. How’s the coalition going?

Leo is the best ever,

Scoondal

Higgins5473 wrote: »

Hi Guys, I’ve been away for a few days. How’s the coalition going?

Leo is the best ever,

You were away ? You should be locked up.

I Am The Law

Higgins5473 wrote: »

Hi Guys, I’ve been away for a few days. How’s the coalition going?

Leo is the best ever,

Not sure how to break this to you ........

Bishop of hope

There is support for Varadkar within FF, or just an acceptance of what happened so coalition can continue perhaps, I'm not sure which.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/cowen-says-varadkar-mistake-over-contract-was-with-good-intentions-1.4396967?mode=amp

FrancieBrady

Bishop of hope wrote: »

There is support for Varadkar within FF, or just an acceptance of what happened so coalition can continue perhaps, I'm not sure which.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/cowen-says-varadkar-mistake-over-contract-was-with-good-intentions-1.4396967?mode=amp

Conflicted as to what is more preferable, Leo finally gone, or Leo leading FG into the next election with the sleaze and corruption cloud hanging over him. His and FG's choice I suppose.
MArtin is playing an interesting game here too, his backbenchers are very angry with him so far. Will he wilt and turn a blind eye or will the hammer fall after Tuesday?

Brendan Bendar

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Conflicted as to what is more preferable, Leo finally gone, or Leo leading FG into the next election with the sleaze and corruption cloud hanging over him. His and FG's choice I suppose.
MArtin is playing an interesting game here too, his backbenchers are very angry with him so far. Will he wilt and turn a blind eye or will the hammer fall after Tuesday?

‘Sleaze and corruption cloud’. Hyperbole much.

Lookit, storm in a teacup bigged up by the media and the desperate opposition.

What was that publication....’Much Ado About Nothing’

FrancieBrady

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

‘Sleaze and corruption cloud’. Hyperbole much.

Lookit, storm in a teacup bigged up by the media and the desperate opposition.

What was that publication....’Much Ado About Nothing’

So you keep saying, Helen McEntee making a heartfelt plea about the same thing right now, not having much success sounding sincere. I think the FG 'nothing to see here' defence will be a busted flush by day end.

McMurphy

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

‘Sleaze and corruption cloud’. Hyperbole much.

Lookit, storm in a teacup bigged up by the media and the desperate opposition.

What was that publication....’Much Ado About Nothing’

"More to come" by the village, Leo will be posting in J-Flashes toilet thread by the end of the day Brenner.

#touchingcloth I reckon, he'll be hanging his cheeks over the porcelain wondering how much they know.

Brendan Bendar

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

‘Sleaze and corruption cloud’. Hyperbole much.

Lookit, storm in a teacup bigged up by the media and the desperate opposition.

What was that publication....’Much Ado About Nothing’

Yeah what's a bit of corporate sleaze between buddies, eh?


Like any of us could share quotes/contracts with a vendor's competitor, without repercussion.


Sleazy and untrustworthy, at best. Amazed if it's not illegal

blanch152

Bowie wrote: »

What message? His huff he felt left out or his leaking, talking out of school?


Its not spin if its your opinion jingles. Only if you're lying. If the electorate share the opinion he's an ego driven **** up, that's it really

Given his 65% popularity rating, I don't think the electorate have the same view of Leo that you do.

Of course opinions can be just spin. Highest-quality opinions are fact-based, followed by spin-based opinions and then spoofery. If one wants to spin, one has to have at least a few facts underlying ones opinion. If there are no facts to back up ones opinion, one is spoofing.

Brendan Bendar

McMurphy wrote: »

"More to come" by the village, Leo will be posting in J-Flashes toilet thread by the end of the day Brenner.

#touchingcloth I reckon, he'll be hanging his cheeks over the porcelain wondering how much they know.

Bring it on, a chara.

Why am I reminded of Nigel Farage here.

Never elected to anything, virtually.

Miniscule support, big mouth, now forming new ‘party’ to oppose lockdowns.

And the tosser will get huge media coverage and support for total negativity and populism.

Reminds me of so many people.........

McMurphy

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Bring it on, a chara.

Why am I reminded of Nigel Farage here.

Never elected to anything, virtually.

Miniscule support, big mouth, now forming new ‘party’ to oppose lockdowns.

And the tosser will get huge media coverage and support for total negativity and populism.

Reminds me of so many people.........

I have no idea, seeing as we're discussing Leo the leak.

Brendan Bendar

McMurphy wrote: »

I have no idea, seeing as we're discussing Leo the leak.

Getting a bit nervous Randall, are we.

Trying to slap down all relevant views and turn the site into a series of polemics?

What’s up.... getting a bit battle weary trying to defend, and achieving nothing.

It can get to one in fairness, battering away and achieving nothing.

FrancieBrady

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Getting a bit nervous Randall, are we.

Trying to slap down all relevant views and turn the site into a series of polemics?

What’s up.... getting a bit battle weary trying to defend, and achieving nothing.

It can get to one in fairness, battering away and achieving nothing.

Is there a 'relevant view' in that post?

Brendan Bendar

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Is there a 'relevant view' in that post?

You heard me Francie:D

Bishop of hope

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Getting a bit nervous Randall, are we.

Trying to slap down all relevant views and turn the site into a series of polemics?

What’s up.... getting a bit battle weary trying to defend, and achieving nothing.

It can get to one in fairness, battering away and achieving nothing.

Too right Brendan.
Leo's woes are a great sidetrack for them.
In the last week we've had a senator, an MLA, and unnamed officials having resigned from the main opposition over dodgy money handling.
They would like us to forget all that and concentrate all our thoughts on Leo.
The money trail is over as far as they're concerned, but I think we will hear more from that in times ahead, the northern finance minister will face a few questions over that little indescretion yet I feel.

FrancieBrady

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

You heard me Francie:D

I read an attempt to shut somebody up and NO view on the matter in hand.

FrancieBrady

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Too right Brendan.
Leo's woes are a great sidetrack for them.
In the last week we've had a senator, an MLA, and unnamed officials having resigned from the main opposition over dodgy money handling.
They would like us to forget all that and concentrate all our thoughts on Leo.
The money trail is over as far as they're concerned, but I think we will hear more from that in times ahead, the northern finance minister will face a few questions over that little indescretion yet I feel.

You make whatever you want of that Bish. Nobody stopping you.

Brendan Bendar

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Too right Brendan.
Leo's woes are a great sidetrack for them.
In the last week we've had a senator, an MLA, and unnamed officials having resigned from the main opposition over dodgy money handling.
They would like us to forget all that and concentrate all our thoughts on Leo.
The money trail is over as far as they're concerned, but I think we will hear more from that in times ahead, the northern finance minister will face a few questions over that little indescretion yet I feel.

Yes Bish, the site will be used solely for govt bashing and nothing else.

The tactic is to keep the lid as tightly as poss on any SF negativity and try to divert any criticism to a backwater.

Under no circumstances let anything negative get out

That’s the orders from the Square, I would suggest.

You can’t have genuine discussion and argument on those parameters.... well in North Korea maybe.

Bishop of hope

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Too right Brendan.
Leo's woes are a great sidetrack for them.
In the last week we've had a senator, an MLA, and unnamed officials having resigned from the main opposition over dodgy money handling.
They would like us to forget all that and concentrate all our thoughts on Leo.
The money trail is over as far as they're concerned, but I think we will hear more from that in times ahead, the northern finance minister will face a few questions over that little indescretion yet I feel.

So let's have Leo resign and everyone can be viewed objectively?

I mean he was gunning for Hogan, not too long ago, for "error" of judgement.

FrancieBrady

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Yes Bish, the site will be used solely for govt bashing and nothing else.

The tactic is to keep the lid as tightly as poss on any SF negativity and try to divert any criticism to a backwater.

Under no circumstances let anything negative get out

That’s the orders from the Square, I would suggest.

You can’t have genuine discussion and argument on those parameters.... well in North Korea maybe.

Nothing negative about SF on boards.ie?


:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D says the poster identifying Shinner Shills on the Radio forum???

:D:D:D:D:D I hear what you say Brendi.

Brendan Bendar

Deleted User wrote: »

So let's have Leo resign and everyone can be viewed objectively?

I mean he was gunning for Hogan, not too long ago, for "error" of judgement.

Then let Callinan resign for his error.

Then let the printer cartridge dude resign

Then let everyone else who transgressed resign and we’ll all end up under a dictatorship

Brendan Bendar

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Nothing negative about SF on boards.ie?


:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D says the poster identifying Shinner Shills on the Radio forum???

:D:D:D:D:D I hear what you say Brendi.

No you don’t Francie, no you don’t.

The old tactic, putting words in people’s mouths.

FrancieBrady

The precedent being set if there is no sanction here. The issue is more important than a single politician's career.

https://mobile.twitter.com/colettebrowne/status/1323208287265955841

Brendan Bendar

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Then let Callinan resign for his error.

Then let the printer cartridge dude resign

Then let everyone else who transgressed resign and we’ll all end up under a dictatorship

He was Taoiseach and he gave confidential contract information to a rival.
How do you think that would be dealt with in a corporate setting?

The leader of the country hamstrung the country's own situation in dealing with a vendor body, he gave confidential details from one private deal to their rival.

This is not trivial.