Ballinglanna, Glanmire, Cork

Shoden

New development of approximately 600 houses and a small retail development being built at the moment outside Glanmire Cork.

https://www.ballinglanna.ie/

Just wondering what people's thoughts are about the development etc.

s1ippy

My best buddy bought one of phase 2 houses. They've moved in and all, delighted with the place.

Went to see it the other day, it's gorgeous. Great space, spec, views... The only problem is they're still building around the neighbourhood. They say you can't hear it until you step outside. The insulation is top.

Excellent value and grand location within spitting distance of the motorway.

I looked myself when I got home to see houses were left but they're getting snapped up fairly fast and I couldn't get the type we wanted, disappointingly.

Shoden

s1ippy wrote: »

My best buddy bought one of phase 2 houses. They've moved in and all, delighted with the place.

Went to see it the other day, it's gorgeous. Great space, spec, views... The only problem is they're still building around the neighbourhood. They say you can't hear it until you step outside. The insulation is top.

Excellent value and grand location within spitting distance of the motorway.

I looked myself when I got home to see houses were left but they're getting snapped up fairly fast and I couldn't get the type we wanted, disappointingly.

Is your friend's home, that you say is well insulated detached or semi detached or terraced or what? I'd love to know what the insulation is like in regards to sound.

Outkast_IRE

I just hope the council steps up with its obligations and provides the footpaths and cycle paths to and from the development like is planned shortly. They have left other developments in similar locations around the city stranded for decades without connecting paths such as Matthew Hill etc.

The houses look well though , seems like a nice development. But for the prices the new builds are going for at the moment they would want to be top class.

Shoden

Outkast_IRE wrote: »

I just hope the council steps up with its obligations and provides the footpaths and cycle paths to and from the development like is planned shortly. They have left other developments in similar locations around the city stranded for decades without connecting paths such as Matthew Hill etc.

The houses look well though , seems like a nice development. But for the prices the new builds are going for at the moment they would want to be top class.

Do you think they're overpriced? They're quite close to the city.

s1ippy

Shoden wrote: »

Is your friend's home, that you say is well insulated detached or semi detached or terraced or what? I'd love to know what the insulation is like in regards to sound.

Semi d, I could hear music they had playing upstairs from out on the road and I could also hear their neighbour going up the stairs. However it was incredibly warm and retained heat very well.

I checked and the detached are out of my price range.

Dolbhad

I’ve a friend who bought in phase 1. Granted the 3 bed semis were around 315k at that stage. They said they heard for phase 4 just released they were at 350k (I presume reflecting the extra 10k from HTB)

It will be a massive estate at the end - around 600 houses in total but seems to be nicely laid out and extra roads should be built so traffic shouldn’t be an issue.

The scheme did also have the LIHAF scheme which was an extra 20k off the houses if you were approved for it on top of HTB. Around 100 houses (2-3beds) were part of this scheme but as far as I know they have all now been availed off. My friends got the LIHAF discount. They love it there.

Outkast_IRE

Shoden wrote: »

Do you think they're overpriced? They're quite close to the city.

I live not far away in Little Island so have a good feel for that area etc. Its a nice area and when the development is fully finished will work well. So some patience is required before judgement.

I plan on moving closer to the city in a few years time back towards where i am originally from and for similar money to Ballinglanna you would have 3-4 bed Semi around the Lough in a nice but older estate in a renovated condition - walking distance to town, UCC, CUH etc.

All the new builds are expensive at the moment though so its certainly not unique to Ballinglanna that the prices are high . The development out Kerry Pike direction has plenty of houses selling in the high 400s

Dolbhad

Outkast_IRE wrote: »

I live not far away in Little Island so have a good feel for that area etc. Its a nice area and when the development is fully finished will work well. So some patience is required before judgement.

I plan on moving closer to the city in a few years time back towards where i am originally from and for similar money to Ballinglanna you would have 3-4 bed Semi around the Lough in a nice but older estate in a renovated condition - walking distance to town, UCC, CUH etc.

All the new builds are expensive at the moment though so its certainly not unique to Ballinglanna that the prices are high . The development out Kerry Pike direction has plenty of houses selling in the high 400s

And it’s the same builder in the Kerry Pike development as Ballinglanna so not surprised the prices are similar.

New builds are very expensive in surrounding areas of Cork. I don’t think you’ll get much change for 330-340k for 3 bed semi detached now.

Outkast_IRE

Dolbhad wrote: »

And it’s the same builder in the Kerry Pike development as Ballinglanna so not surprised the prices are similar.

New builds are very expensive in surrounding areas of Cork. I don’t think you’ll get much change for 330-340k for 3 bed semi detached now.

No you wouldnt get cheaper right now, more expensive if anything, and working in the construction industry myself the quality of the workmanship in some of the newbuilds can be poor . The structure of the house might be fine , but just about everything else is about getting in and out ASAP.

One of my colleagues also an engineer bought a house in a new build estate recently and snagged it himself. He presented the builder with about 400 items on the snag list and he could of had more if he was being real picky.

GirlatdRockShow

We have just put down a deposit for Ballinglanna. Three bed semi detached at 355k, but we will be getting the full help to buy and the LIHAF which will bring us down to 305k. I won't lie getting that much off was a big factor for us, although I do think its crazy that the housing market is so expensive that the government is basically subsidising our house to the tune of 50k but I will take it!

From what we have seen so far we have been impressed and have heard good things from others, although I am nervous about the transport issues in the area. As mentioned there are plans for foothpaths, bus stops and plenty of roads so just really hoping those don't fall by the wayside. Also plans for a school on the site.

Outkast_IRE

GirlatdRockShow wrote: »

We have just put down a deposit for Ballinglanna. Three bed semi detached at 355k, but we will be getting the full help to buy and the LIHAF which will bring us down to 305k. I won't lie getting that much off was a big factor for us, although I do think its crazy that the housing market is so expensive that the government is basically subsidising our house to the tune of 50k but I will take it!

From what we have seen so far we have been impressed and have heard good things from others, although I am nervous about the transport issues in the area. As mentioned there are plans for foothpaths, bus stops and plenty of roads so just really hoping those don't fall by the wayside. Also plans for a school on the site.

Best of luck , I am sure you won't be long learning about the delights of Fitzpatrick's and the super valu in Glanmire js excellent

Shoden

Put a booking deposit down on a two bed town house. 265k with LIHAF and htb this should come down to 218.5k. It's a great location, just debating whether 218k is a lot for a two bed terrace.

Outkast_IRE

Shoden wrote: »

Put a booking deposit down on a two bed town house. 265k with LIHAF and htb this should come down to 218.5k. It's a great location, just debating whether 218k is a lot for a two bed terrace.

All the new build prices are alot , the only issue with going for the 2 bed town house is losing the 10% for FTB , as the next time you purchase its a min of 20% deposit. So if you were changing within the first 5 years of the mortgage you many not have as much equity as you would like to put towards a 3bed or bigger , but its all down to personal circumstance.

The only question you really need to answer would be if you were to rent that place yourself would the cost of the rent be greater than the mortgage and at the moment the answer would be yes.

Shoden

Outkast_IRE wrote: »

All the new build prices are alot , the only issue with going for the 2 bed town house is losing the 10% for FTB , as the next time you purchase its a min of 20% deposit. So if you were changing within the first 5 years of the mortgage you many not have as much equity as you would like to put towards a 3bed or bigger , but its all down to personal circumstance.

The only question you really need to answer would be if you were to rent that place yourself would the cost of the rent be greater than the mortgage and at the moment the answer would be yes.

Thanks for that! Yeah, I agree but unfortunately the three beds are out of my reach at the moment without exemptions being given.

Outkast_IRE

Shoden wrote: »

Thanks for that! Yeah, I agree but unfortunately the three beds are out of my reach at the moment without exemptions being given.

Take that as a good thing , the Irish Fascination with borrowing the maximum they are allowed amazes me, they see it as a target , and developers take full advantage.

Borrow what is affordable to repay and no-more , last thing you need to be stressing over is money. If you move to a better job or your income increases in the interim period then be strict and push it to savings so in a few years time you have a nice sum of money towards another deposit etc. Banks quite quickly change their tune when they see you can provide well beyond the minimum deposit and its all saved out of your own pocket.

Shoden

Outkast_IRE wrote: »

Take that as a good thing , the Irish Fascination with borrowing the maximum they are allowed amazes me, they see it as a target , and developers take full advantage.

Borrow what is affordable to repay and no-more , last thing you need to be stressing over is money. If you move to a better job or your income increases in the interim period then be strict and push it to savings so in a few years time you have a nice sum of money towards another deposit etc. Banks quite quickly change their tune when they see you can provide well beyond the minimum deposit and its all saved out of your own pocket.

Don't jump to conclusions, the repayments on the exemption I'd be looking for are well well within easy repayablity for me.

GirlatdRockShow

Outkast_IRE wrote: »

Best of luck , I am sure you won't be long learning about the delights of Fitzpatrick's and the super valu in Glanmire js excellent

Thank you, well familiar with all glanmire has to offer in terms of food and drink, trips to supervalu kept me sane during lockdown! ðŸ˜

JohnK

s1ippy wrote: »

Semi d, I could hear music they had playing upstairs from out on the road and I could also hear their neighbour going up the stairs.

Is that usual on new builds? I'd have thought sound insulation would be better these days.

Shoden

JohnK wrote: »

Is that usual on new builds? I'd have thought sound insulation would be better these days.

I don't understand what they mean. As in they were outside the house and they heard someone go up and down the stairs?

Do houses have sound insulation ratings?

Shoden

JohnK wrote: »

Is that usual on new builds? I'd have thought sound insulation would be better these days.

I'd love to know the regulations involved.

JohnK

Found this doc from a few years back - haven't read it myself though so not sure if its of any actual use or just more of a technical doc - https://www.housing.gov.ie/sites/default/files/migrated-files/en/Publications/DevelopmentandHousing/BuildingStandards/FileDownLoad%2C39956%2Cen.pdf

Shoden

JohnK wrote: »

Found this doc from a few years back - haven't read it myself though so not sure if its of any actual use or just more of a technical doc - https://www.housing.gov.ie/sites/default/files/migrated-files/en/Publications/DevelopmentandHousing/BuildingStandards/FileDownLoad%2C39956%2Cen.pdf

Cheers, I might ask my surveyor to have a look at that!

Dolbhad

I can’t comment on the sound of these houses but if you are buying a new build and house has only started to be build, it’s really worth paying extra and have your engineer do a few visits as the build goes up.

About three years ago, we went sale agreed on a new build. We pulled out as in the end the location didn’t suit us for work or family. But we had an engineer (who was surveying the house attached to the one we were buying) to have a look. He had mentioned he was really happen with the noise insulation they had put in that it was more than was required under regulations.

So did give us peace of mind!

Shoden

Dolbhad wrote: »

I can’t comment on the sound of these houses but if you are buying a new build and house has only started to be build, it’s really worth paying extra and have your engineer do a few visits as the build goes up.

About three years ago, we went sale agreed on a new build. We pulled out as in the end the location didn’t suit us for work or family. But we had an engineer (who was surveying the house attached to the one we were buying) to have a look. He he mention he was really happen with the noise insulation they had put in that it was more than was required under regulations.

So did give us peace of mind!

Good idea. Do they let engineers inspect the place before it's ready to snag though?

Dolbhad

Shoden wrote: »

Good idea. Do they let engineers inspect the place before it's ready to snag though?

Yes they do - usually your engineer will let the site foreman know before they call. And I found builders like O Flynn have so many sites on the go in different stages, you could have an engineer snagging one house and then look at a house that’s not yet complete on the one day.

In our case the new build we had looked at so happened the neighbour was using the same solicitor so she told us who the engineer was being used there so he was looking at both houses at same time.

Shoden

Dolbhad wrote: »

Yes they do - usually your engineer will let the site foreman know before they call. And I found builders like O Flynn have so many sites on the go in different stages, you could have an engineer snagging one house and then look at a house that’s not yet complete on the one day.

In our case the new build we had looked at so happened the neighbour was using the same solicitor so she told us who the engineer was being used there so he was looking at both houses at same time.

That's a great idea. Any recommendations for an engineer that would do this in Cork?

bailey99

I've a four bed semi in glanmire in decent condition. What's that worth considering three bed semis here are 355? I'm five mins walk from the super valu.

Shoden

bailey99 wrote: »

I've a four bed semi in glanmire in decent condition. What's that worth considering three bed semis here are 355? I'm five mins walk from the super valu.

Too many variables, no idea. I'd say a valuation is your best bet.

bailey99

Shoden wrote: »

Too many variables, no idea. I'd say a valuation is your best bet.

To say I'm shocked at these prices would be at understatement. 355k for three bed semi outside glanmire......... absolutely bonkers!

Dolbhad

Shoden wrote: »

That's a great idea. Any recommendations for an engineer that would do this in Cork?

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Dolbhad

bailey99 wrote: »

I've a four bed semi in glanmire in decent condition. What's that worth considering three bed semis here are 355? I'm five mins walk from the super valu.

Valuation is the way to go. You are hampered by the fact Glanmire has a lot of new build estates - this one, Glashaboy, Crawford etc. As the HTB can contribute towards 30k and this estate also offers an additional 20k for LIHAF, even though prices are 355k, in reality FTB are paying a lot less than 355k which will affect you. Glashboy 3 beds are around 315k also.

Corkgirl20

I realise I’m late to this thread, has anybody here moved into Ballinglanna yet?
Any comments or advice ?
I’ve been up to view the area a few times and it looks lovely , really friendly atmosphere.
I’m considering buying a 3/4 bed semi D in the next phase.

BlueCarpet

For those who bought there, is it possible to find out whereabouts the social housing will be?

Dolbhad

Corkgirl20 wrote: »

I realise I’m late to this thread, has anybody here moved into Ballinglanna yet?
Any comments or advice ?
I’ve been up to view the area a few times and it looks lovely , really friendly atmosphere.
I’m considering buying a 3/4 bed semi D in the next phase.

My friend bought on first phase and it getting on great. She loves the house. She said the hardest part is you are living on/near a building site for noise and dust that will be activate for years but that’s not forever.

Dolbhad

BlueCarpet wrote: »

For those who bought there, is it possible to find out whereabouts the social housing will be?

When my friends bought they asked that and was they weren’t going to be in the first few phases while the LIHAF Discount was there.

BlueCarpet

Dolbhad wrote: »

When my friends bought they asked that and was they weren’t going to be in the first few phases while the LIHAF Discount was there.

Ok thanks. We were talking to a property agent today, when we asked about the social housing, they hung up. I'm taking that as a bad sign.

Dolbhad

BlueCarpet wrote: »

Ok thanks. We were talking to a property agent today, when we asked about the social housing, they hung up. I'm taking that as a bad sign.

Ask is there any houses left with the LIHAF discount. If they say they are all sold, I’d expect there could be social housing from then on in the phases.

Not saying it works in every estate but when we were looking in Cork, the estate was a mixture of 3 bed semi, 4 bed semi and 4 bed detached. There was a row of terrace houses and the builder was upfront that they were the part v social housing.

Corkgirl20

LIHAF Scheme has been accounted for, there were 110 houses, that’s not to say they’ve all been built though just allocated. LIHAF is separate to social housing. There is 60 social/council houses and they are not in the first area.

Looks like a lovely estate , there will be a further phase to the left at a later stage.

BlueCarpet

Dolbhad wrote: »

Ask is there any houses left with the LIHAF discount. If they say they are all sold, I’d expect there could be social housing from then on in the phases.

Not saying it works in every estate but when we were looking in Cork, the estate was a mixture of 3 bed semi, 4 bed semi and 4 bed detached. There was a row of terrace houses and the builder was upfront that they were the part v social housing.

Ya they said alright LIHAF was all accounted for. We asked then is social housing in one area or throughout the whole development, he hung up. It's a lot of money to be parting with without them letting you know what the story would be.

Corkgirl20

BlueCarpet wrote: »

Ya they said alright LIHAF was all accounted for. We asked then is social housing in one area or throughout the whole development, he hung up.

I think the hanging up probably says it all.
All I know is that it’s not in area 1 or the part of area 3 that’s been released ( all sold now). So it’s either area 2 or 3 or between both.

Dolbhad

BlueCarpet wrote: »

Ya they said alright LIHAF was all accounted for. We asked then is social housing in one area or throughout the whole development, he hung up. It's a lot of money to be parting with without them letting you know what the story would be.

The thing is in the end it’s going to be a massive estate - planning is for around 700 houses I think. So 10% of that means there will be a good few social houses there. We did look at another estate before but the only houses left had all the social housing to the back of us. The auctioneer was upfront about it but I didn’t want to part with 360k for that.

Corkgirl20

Dolbhad wrote: »

The thing is in the end it’s going to be a massive estate - planning is for around 700 houses I think. So 10% of that means there will be a good few social houses there. We did look at another estate before but the only houses left had all the social housing to the back of us. The auctioneer was upfront about it but I didn’t want to part with 360k for that.

The rest of the estate won’t be built for a while, possibly years.
Can I ask what type of house was it for 360k?
Did you end up buying one ?

Shoden

BlueCarpet wrote: »

Ya they said alright LIHAF was all accounted for. We asked then is social housing in one area or throughout the whole development, he hung up. It's a lot of money to be parting with without them letting you know what the story would be.

That doesn't sound right to me, it's Sherry Fitz sell them and any time I've asked they've always told me exactly where the social housing was going in developments in Cork. Did you try calling them back?

Dolbhad

Corkgirl20 wrote: »

The rest of the estate won’t be built for a while, possibly years.
Can I ask what type of house was it for 360k?
Did you end up buying one ?

It was in Courtbrack in blarney. In was a detached 4 bed house. As it was further out, there was a bit more value for money. Those builders also have estates in blarney and whites cross currently ongoing as well.

We didn’t buy it in the end. We actually bought a second hand house detached instead in a mature estate.

Yes Glanmire will takes years to build alright. But still will be a big estate in the end. The other scheme apparently that will have LIHAF is in Whitechurch according to the list online about lIHAF but haven’t seen or heard anything about it.

Irador222

Based on the ppr it looks like to top part in Mill view has social housing.
Google search will show the Cork city council has them up as available for tenancy

Winegum1

Irador222 wrote: »

Based on the ppr it looks like to top part in Mill view has social housing.
Google search will show the Cork city council has them up as available for tenancy

Hi there, could you post a link to this info please?

Interested in the area myself and would like to find out more thanks!

Winegum1

Hey there Cork girl. Could I ask how you know where the social housing will be?
I'm also looking at the estate. Haven't asked an estate though and I'm not sure how upfront they would be with this.

Winegum1

Corkgirl20 wrote: »

I think the hanging up probably says it all.
All I know is that it’s not in area 1 or the part of area 3 that’s been released ( all sold now). So it’s either area 2 or 3 or between both.

Have you bought yourself cork girl?

Corkgirl20

Winegum1 wrote: »

Have you bought yourself cork girl?

I Viewed the first phase late on, only a handful of houses left and not the size I wanted also viewed Mill View but I wasn’t mad about the white plaster finish. So I’m waiting for the next phase.

Winegum1

Corkgirl20 wrote: »

I Viewed the first phase late on, only a handful of houses left and not the size I wanted also viewed Mill View but I wasn’t mad about the white plaster finish. So I’m waiting for the next phase.

I had a snoop myself. I liked the contemporary ones myself. Redbrick at the front are lovely too.

Can I ask how you found out where the social housing units will and won't go? I can't seem to find any info