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Tesla Model 3 - V3.0
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Is anyone who took delivery of a 202 reg Model 3 not pissed off that just a few months later, the price dropped almost €1k (SR+, vat reduction) & the car will now include a heat pump, better specs, glass etc.?
When it comes to selling on, an early 202 Model 3 will be worth far less than a later 202 Model 3, which will have more range etc.
Elon pinched pennies by removing mats, cables, dimming door mirrors etc. already & has now seriously devalued cars, just a few months old.
He has effectively taken money from your pockets :eek:.
If people didn't buy these July cars at full price, he wouldn't be able to push out these higher spec models.
Two solutions to right this wrong.
1. Give early 202 owners free supercharging or make some gesture
2. Immediately push up the price of the new, upgraded model
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.............ducks & waits to be attacked by prospective Model 3 purchasers......:D:D.
I think most buyers know that a mid-life refresh or entirely new model is just around the corner and that their gleaming new purchase is going to be bested by something else before long.
Yes, Tesla does things a little differently (in that they make updates all the time, rather than the life-cycle schedule that other manufacturers follow), but it's still essentially the same thing.
I'm sure some people will agree with you, and think that something must be done to right a perceived wrong, but most will just understand that this is the nature of car purchasing. If you're describing your own situation here, my advice would be to let it go and enjoy the lovely car that you're privileged enough to own.0 -
I'm sure some people will agree with you, and think that something must be done to right a perceived wrong
Yes, yes, that's it in a nutshell - a sense of justice must prevail, almost social to be honest.
Yes, I do feel aggrieved I've no heat pump or photochromic wing mirrors.
Why should I be the one who loses out?
Elon should make this right, or I'll not be happy & toys may be seen exiting a pram
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But seriously, these are major, major upgrades. In the SR+, a more robust battery, more range, acoustic glass, heat pump, redesigned console etc. It's more than just a facelift.
Other manufacturers ubiquitously increase pricing with upgrades like these - see the eNiro thread etc. Obviously, they also may have to discount existing (pre update/upgrade) stock, as no one will pay the same for a poorer specced car.
Tesla do neither.........some win, some lose. They offer "bargain" time-limited upgrades (FSD lite recently) & advise "buy it now before it increases in price" etc.
They won't change, they are selling cars & their share price is just ridiculous but that won't last forever.
In terms of my privilege, yes, I agree, Elon is very privileged & should make amends. 0 -
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Yes, yes, that's it in a nutshell - a sense of justice must prevail, almost social to be honest.
Yes, I do feel aggrieved I've no heat pump or photochromic wing mirrors.
Why should I be the one who loses out?
Elon should make this right, or I'll not be happy & toys may be seen exiting a pram.
But seriously, these are major, major upgrades. In the SR+, a more robust battery, more range, acoustic glass, heat pump, redesigned console etc. It's more than just a facelift.
Other manufacturers ubiquitously increase pricing with upgrades like these - see the eNiro thread etc. Obviously, they also may have to discount existing (pre update/upgrade) stock, as no one will pay the same for a poorer specced car.
Tesla do neither.........some win, some lose. They offer "bargain" time-limited upgrades (FSD lite recently) & advise "buy it now before it increases in price" etc.
They won't change, they are selling cars & their share price is just ridiculous but that won't last forever.
In terms of my privilege, yes, I agree, Elon is very privileged & should make amends.
With regards to the Battery
More Robust/More Range remains to be seen, it is much heavier. Heat Pump will make a big difference for sure in cold weather when you can't start from a Charging station or need to Rapid Charge immediately after the car has been sitting in Cold Weather for a day or 2 unplugged.
Since I'm usually parked on a charging station anyway I just set it to charge 30 minutes before I go and turn the climate on, battery is up to temperature before I leave.
Now in Nordic climates I could see a very big margin where it could improve range (like starting off in -30 degrees or whatever)
Ireland though has a fairly moderate climate all year round, VW didn't even include it in the ID3 for the Irish market.
It's nice to have, don't do crying over it. :pac:
Some free SC km would be nice though 0 -
Yes, yes, that's it in a nutshell - a sense of justice must prevail, almost social to be honest.
Yes, I do feel aggrieved I've no heat pump or photochromic wing mirrors.
Why should I be the one who loses out?
Elon should make this right, or I'll not be happy & toys may be seen exiting a pram.
But seriously, these are major, major upgrades. In the SR+, a more robust battery, more range, acoustic glass, heat pump, redesigned console etc. It's more than just a facelift.
Other manufacturers ubiquitously increase pricing with upgrades like these - see the eNiro thread etc. Obviously, they also may have to discount existing (pre update/upgrade) stock, as no one will pay the same for a poorer specced car.
Tesla do neither.........some win, some lose. They offer "bargain" time-limited upgrades (FSD lite recently) & advise "buy it now before it increases in price" etc.
They won't change, they are selling cars & their share price is just ridiculous but that won't last forever.
In terms of my privilege, yes, I agree, Elon is very privileged & should make amends.
Would you call Apple to get you a newer iPhone every year when they release a new one? No you don't so just accept what you have... or sell it and order a new one.0 -
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No one will compensate for something that is a normal thing to do in car world or any other market...
We'll see about that :P.
I've tweeted at Elon & DM'd him. I'm expecting he'll get back to me any time now, else I'll boycott Tesla. That'll teach him.
6/7/8% usage acceptable usage for sentry mode? The whole car must stay awake while it's running, using 250 or 300 watts :eek:.
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AndyBoBandy wrote: »Depending where you are parked, expect to lose up to 8-10% per 24 hours with Sentey Mode
Good job it auto closes at 20% soc.
For comparison, I always use dual, hardwired, 1080p front & rear dashcams, in parking mode, with a voltage detector to prevent the 12v dropping too low.
These will run for days & days on any car's 12v system.
In fairness, my PHEV detects the milliamp draw & reports it after a few days, but it's a pity the Tesla is so power hungry. You'd keep a full modern house heated with less energy these days.
Not complaining (I am complaining though). 0 -
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Is anyone who took delivery of a 202 reg Model 3 not pissed off that just a few months later, the price dropped almost €1k (SR+, vat reduction) & the car will now include a heat pump, better specs, glass etc.?
When it comes to selling on, an early 202 Model 3 will be worth far less than a later 202 Model 3, which will have more range etc.
Elon pinched pennies by removing mats, cables, dimming door mirrors etc. already & has now seriously devalued cars, just a few months old.
He has effectively taken money from your pockets :eek:.
If people didn't buy these July cars at full price, he wouldn't be able to push out these higher spec models.
Two solutions to right this wrong.
1. Give early 202 owners free supercharging or make some gesture
2. Immediately push up the price of the new, upgraded model.
.............ducks & waits to be attacked by prospective Model 3 purchasers......:D:D.
Same happens in the ICE world.
30th June 2014. BMW F10 is ordered.
1st July 2014, that same car is ordered only this time xenon is standard, LED fogs are standard. Slightly upgraded interior with. We wheel etc.
Just luck of the draw.0 -
Why the voltage detector, does the Tesla not monitor the 12v itself and auto top it up from the HV should the need arise.
I had the voltage detectors/dashcams in my PHEV & Ioniq. I had hoped Tesla's sentry mode/dashcam feature would negate the need for a 3rd party solution, but unfortunately not
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I'll be ripping through a Model 3 soon now...............:pac:.0 -
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