Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

Away With The Fairies

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The atmospheric chemist's conclusion is because of super spreader events, its all aerosols, but most people don't catch it in super spreader events

Do you think people are going around coughing and sneezing on each other? They aren't doing that. This virus is airborne.

Away With The Fairies

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Do you think people are going around coughing and sneezing on each other? They aren't doing that. This virus is airborne.

Everyone propels small droplets when they speak, and even sometimes when they breathe

Tenzor07

Deleted User wrote: »

Everyone propels small droplets when they speak, and even sometimes when they breathe

Ya learn something new every day eh? :P

ArthurDayne

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I agree. Let's start by asking them where they think the cut off age should be for life saving intervention due to overwhelmed hospitals? Should it be 70 years of age? 75? 80?

Let's have an open discussion of the trade off with them. When Italian doctors were deciding who lives and dies the young people in Italy never got to have their say.

With ICU's filling up in places like northern England I think it's only fair their voices are heard.

But that is not a question for young people — that is a question for the authorities who are responsible for ensuring the capacity of healthcare. The very fact that people continue to turn the blame on their fellow citizens, particularly the young who have been disproportionately negatively affected by restrictions, is doing nothing more than playing into the hands of a government who are only too happy to have their own failures pinned on some quintessentially Irish self-deprecating mentality that we are all feckless moronic bog dwellers and the poor State just can’t make us learn. At some stage, people will need to start asking whether the problem is lack of compliance with the policies, or lack of realism amongst the policy makers themselves.

The fact is this — if we embarked on a hugely self-harming lockdown strategy followed by conservative restrictions, on the trade-off basis that we would prevent an overwhelming of capacity, and we now face into a winter of young people only being exposed to the virus in the colder months rather than the warmer ....then it is not young people you should be turning on — it’s the people who devised a strategy based on appeasing a sense of panic back in March rather than long term sustainable thinking.

If we look to the State to save us via lockdowns, restrictions and the general suppression of liberty, then it is for the State to use the time and breathing space given by said restrictions to bulk up preparedness. They have had the time and the buck stops with them.

MerlinSouthDub

ICU numbers down 1 to 30 this morning - 1 admission, 2 discharges over the past 24 hours.

El Weirdo

caveat emptor wrote: »

It reminded me of that other link a few weeks ago that I luckily identified before clicking on it. I'd say a few people could have lost jobs over it. :rolleyes:

Cheers

Ah come on, there is no comparison between the videos.

One was a video of a penis and a gaping arsehole and the other one was a porn video.

Widdensushi

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

In Europe

Poland has recorded a record rise in cases (over 6,000) and hospitals are "becoming overloaded" according to the Guardian. 116 new deaths there.

Russia also a new record rise in cases for them.

Germany over 5,000 new cases for first time since April and 43 new deaths.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/oct/14/coronavirus-live-news-restrictions-tighten-across-europe-global-cases-near-38m

That deaths amount for Germany seems wrong, is it for today or yesterday?

eagle eye

Can you please read before you post nonsense.
70% AT RISK of reinfection, not reinfected.

KerryConnor

KerryConnor wrote: »

It's happening a lot. A local secondary had 4 positive cases and no close contacts.

Another letter from school stated that because the child was only present and contagious for 1 day and kids and adults were wearing masks, there were deemed no close contacts.

In primary if a child hasn't been in school in 48 hours they're deemed to have no close contacts. What's this 14 day thing we've been living with for the last 6 months all about then?

We seem to be doing everything possible to reduce the number of "close contacts" identified. The opposite of what tracing should be.

mloc123

eagle eye wrote: »

Can you please read before you post nonsense.
70% AT RISK of reinfection, not reinfected.

did you know, 100% of the population of the world at at risk of death? Nothing to do with covid... just in general

polesheep

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I agree. Let's start by asking them where they think the cut off age should be for life saving intervention due to overwhelmed hospitals? Should it be 70 years of age? 75? 80?

Let's have an open discussion of the trade off with them. When Italian doctors were deciding who lives and dies the young people in Italy never got to have their say.

With ICU's filling up in places like northern England I think it's only fair their voices are heard.

I see what you mean, but now you're trying to engage with them again. The point I'm making is that it's past that time, they have moved on. We need to think about how we deal with Covid without having them onboard.

Plumbthedepths

polesheep wrote: »

I see what you mean, but now you're trying to engage with them again. The point I'm making is that it's past that time, they have moved on. We need to think about how we deal with Covid without having them onboard.

There's a rotten attitude towards young people in this country at the moment. Seeking to blame them for the spread of the virus. Even on here some of the commentary has been extremely nasty even as far as describing young women as 'dirty prostitutes'.

Roger_007

Deleted User wrote: »

Everyone propels small droplets when they speak, and even sometimes when they breathe

.....and sometimes when they breed?

TonyMaloney

Things are looking very grim in Scotland. Nothing seems to be working for them and deaths are rising.

15 deaths.
1429 new cases, 537 of which were in glasgow and clyde.

Can't find mention of their positivity rate. Yesterday it stood at 17.2%

edit: 16.4%

big syke

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Do you think people are going around coughing and sneezing on each other? They aren't doing that. This virus is airborne.

Its not though

Necro

Oranage2 wrote: »

Rte all over reporting lockdowns and restrictions in Europe, that gives the green light to our politicians to have another lockdown.

When it comes to 'fighting' covid we don't have much imagination, restrictions restrictions restrictions.

Agreed, but the tracing system we have is in a bad way so there probably isn't an alternative presently.

ACitizenErased

Necro wrote: »

Agreed, but the tracing system we have is in a bad way so there probably isn't an alternative presently.

Have you been contacted yet Necro?

Away With The Fairies

big syke wrote: »

Its not though

Bury your head in the sand attitude.

big syke

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Bury your head in the sand attitude.

How? You are speculating yet again and posting hyperbole and misinformation and anyone who calls it on you is told their head is in the sand or that they are ignoring the seriousness of the situation.

From the WHO who you love to quote when it suits you:

https://twitter.com/who/status/1243972193169616898?lang=en

The #coronavirus is mainly transmitted through droplets generated when an infected person coughs, sneezes or speaks

Plumbthedepths

CDC findings con Airborne transmission.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/scientific-brief-sars-cov-2.html

Away With The Fairies

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Bury your head in the sand attitude.

Is that to say the droplets hang in the air for hours? if they are some fraction of a micron for example?

If so, how long do they hang there in your opinion? and if so are we to assume it does not hang round in schools at all until it's picked up any a teenager with the required receptors? and spread to a friends by passing over his mobile phone having had the same phone to his mouth for any given time?

Swine Flu infected 10,000 a week in 2009 all ages..how does this seemingly adaptive corona virus manage to dodge a huge swathe the normally affected population?

If it's this bad, shouldn't we all stay home now??

AlphaDelta1

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Things are looking very grim in Scotland. Nothing seems to be working for them and deaths are rising.

15 deaths.
1429 new cases, 537 of which were in glasgow and clyde.

Can't find mention of their positivity rate. Yesterday it stood at 17.2%

edit: 16.4%

It's Scotland, its always grim up there..

kwestfan08

Putting more restrictions on border counties just because those nordie ****s couldn't be arsed wearing masks is some kick in the teeth for morale. What's even the point of obeying the rules we do have in the south if we're just going to be further restricted because of them.

Necro

ACitizenErased wrote:

Have you been contacted yet Necro?

Yeah yesterday. In fairness they were quick in getting to my close contacts once they rang me but it's taken a good bit of time. Tested positive on Thursday like.

josip

Where can I find a list of the Covid Test Centres in Dublin?

ACitizenErased

Necro wrote: »

Yeah yesterday. In fairness they were quick in getting to my close contacts once they rang me but it's taken a good bit of time. Tested positive on Thursday like.

Any idea at all where ya caught it? Haven't really been keeping up with the thread so apologies if answered already

Necro

ACitizenErased wrote:

Any idea at all where ya caught it? Haven't really been keeping up with the thread so apologies if answered already

I don't know in all honesty. Was watching a game on TV with a mate on the Saturday evening, his sister lives in the North and tested positive last week too. But he's adamant he hasn't been there since May...

Wife and kids tested negative on Monday so the only other avenue is work really.

KrustyUCC

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Measures that are being taken in NI.

https://twitter.com/SJAMcBride/status/1316305061811814401?s=19

That seems to be equivalent to our level three?

Hurrache

big syke wrote: »

How? You are speculating yet again and posting hyperbole and misinformation and anyone who calls it on you is told their head is in the sand or that they are ignoring the seriousness of the situation.

From the WHO who you love to quote when it suits you:

https://twitter.com/who/status/1243972193169616898?lang=en

The #coronavirus is mainly transmitted through droplets generated when an infected person coughs, sneezes or speaks

Erm, that's from March, when little was known about it.

Sconsey

big syke wrote: »

How? You are speculating yet again and posting hyperbole and misinformation and anyone who calls it on you is told their head is in the sand or that they are ignoring the seriousness of the situation.

From the WHO who you love to quote when it suits you:

https://twitter.com/who/status/1243972193169616898?lang=en

The #coronavirus is mainly transmitted through droplets generated when an infected person coughs, sneezes or speaks

That tweet is from last March, since then the WHO are (slowly) coming round to the fact that aerosol transmission is more likely than initially thought.

Look at the third question and answer here from the WHO, dated July of this year. The tweet from March is well out of date at this stage.