Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

pauldry

There may have been smugness but every country in Europe then seems to have had it

TonyMaloney

pauldry wrote: »

There may have been smugness but every country in Europe then seems to have had it

yeah, it's a smugdemic alright

masks help, but you can still see the smugness in people's eyes

ednwireland

JDD wrote: »

Seriously need to close hotels, airbnbs and guesthouses in the border counties at the very least. Can't you see NI families booking rooms in Bundoran and Carlingford now that they have an extended mid-term break? I'm not saying everyone in NI would think that way, but there would be enough who have bought into the narrative that the virus is overhyped, and the hotels in the border counties, like the rest of ireland, are desperate for guests. They won't turn them down if bookings are made.

most are closed at this point anyway

Boggles

TonyMaloney wrote: »

It's even clearer when you throw it on a log graph and add a trendline

I hoped you removed Dublin, that's a strict no smugness zone.

Sure twas those whores in Kerry who reseeded the virus up there with their commute to work.

is_that_so

rosiem wrote: »

Does anybody know if Louth is also considered for these restrictions I haven’t seen it mentioned anywhere ?

It shouldn't be, it's near the bottom end of cases per 100K.

brick tamland

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

I think we need to consider putting border counties on level 5 to protect rest of country

We can’t have Nordies coming to hotels in the south on their holidays

I dont think having the border counties at a higher level than the north is a good plan, all it will do is encourage people from this side of the border over into the north where there are lower restrictions (for shopping ect) and way more cases

MerlinSouthDub

Boggles wrote: »

Why would you expect that?

I'm not saying you will be right or wrong, but chances are we haven't seen the large case load from the past week manifest into hospitalizations yet.

I agree - hospitalisations will increase over the next week, but I'm hopeful they stabilise thereafter. This is what has happened in Dublin (from a hospitalisation perspective) so very optimistic we'll see the same outside Dublin.

GeorgeBailey

It's kind of nonsense that the border counties could be moved to level 4/5 just because the North have finally pulled the finger out and imposed the sorts of restrictions the border counties are already under.

Sonny678

School in westmeath 6 teachers have the coronavirus and over 30 students and that number increasing with results coming back. Schools shut in the north but a few miles over the border the schools in Donegal louth Monaghan Cavan are all wide open. Makes no sense whatsoever at any level.

JDD

ednwireland wrote: »

most are closed at this point anyway

Dunno about that. Just did a quick search on booking.com for both Bundoran and Carlingford, and it seems there's plenty of availability.

It sucks for counties that have low infection rates, but if we let all the nordies flood over the border in Louth and Leitrim, they'll be hotspots in two weeks time.

DeanAustin

Sonny678 wrote: »

School in westmeath 6 teachers have the coronavirus and over 30 students and that number increasing with results coming back. Schools shut in the north but a few miles over the border the schools in Donegal louth Monaghan Cavan are all wide open. Makes no sense whatsoever at any level.

Yes it does. There is an argument for closing schools but there is also a sensible argument for keeping them open.

Boggles

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

I agree - hospitalisations will increase over the next week, but I'm hopeful they stabilise thereafter. This is what has happened in Dublin (from a hospitalisation perspective) so very optimistic we'll see the same outside Dublin.

What do you mean by stabilize?

Rate of growth slows?

That will depend on level of and profile of infections, and then it takes time for them to manifest into hospitalizations, which would mean you think we have peaked this week, correct?

Hopefully you are right obviously, but I don't see that in the trends TBH.

amadangomor

Sonny678 wrote: »

School in westmeath 6 teachers have the coronavirus and over 30 students and that number increasing with results coming back. Schools shut in the north but a few miles over the border the schools in Donegal louth Monaghan Cavan are all wide open. Makes no sense whatsoever at any level.

Is that the one in Mullingar?

Denny61

If it was a United island..it would be 2000 cases..it would be highest in Europe anyway...so in relative terms that would be 18000 cases in UK. And even at 12000 there at moment. Its frightening.
Puts this island into perspective!!!!!

pauldry

how many positive swabs today?

bilston

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

I think we need to consider putting border counties on level 5 to protect rest of country

We can’t have Nordies coming to hotels in the south on their holidays

I'd say folks in Derry and Strabane are wishing they did the same when cases got very high in Donegal 3 or 4 weeks ago.

JDD

brick tamland wrote: »

I dont think having the border counties at a higher level than the north is a good plan, all it will do is encourage people from this side of the border over into the north where there are lower restrictions (for shopping ect) and way more cases

Do the restrictions in the North include non-essential shops? I have to say, I wouldn't be in favour of closing non-essential shops either side of the border - even shopping centres seem low risk to me as most have high ceilings and good ventilation. As long as there isn't too many people inside any individual shops and everyone wears masks it should continue to be safe enough.

I might stretch to closing beauty salons and hairdressers though, as you spend a longer amount of time, in close contact with another person, in those outlets.

Non solum non ambulabit

Sonny678 wrote: »

School in westmeath 6 teachers have the coronavirus and over 30 students and that number increasing with results coming back. Schools shut in the north but a few miles over the border the schools in Donegal louth Monaghan Cavan are all wide open. Makes no sense whatsoever at any level.

Schools in the north are open. They will close next week and have an extended mid term break. Using your terminology our schools will be closing too for a week.

NI and ROI schools will both be closed 26th to 30th Oct and both will reopen on 2nd Nov

ednwireland

here comes the knee jerk

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/other/emergency-cabinet-meeting-to-discuss-northern-ireland-s-covid-19-restrictions/ar-BB1a10zk?ocid=msedgntp

mirrorwall14

Do we not normally have swab data by around 3?

polesheep

Ficheall wrote: »

Genuine question, which I don't know the answer to, and don't know where I could find it - did more people fail to get the course they wanted this year than in other years? I _suspect_ with the increased number of places and the leniency for covid (I think marks were slightly up overall?) that the "excess irreversible damage" is at best on a par with other years.

This year students couldn't sit the exam so comparisons to other years are meaningless. And failing to get the course you want after you've sat the exam is down to you and no one else. The damage done this year was outside of the student's control. No matter how well intentioned teachers were, they can't possible have graded everyone accurately.

Boggles

ednwireland wrote: »

here comes the knee jerk

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/other/emergency-cabinet-meeting-to-discuss-northern-ireland-s-covid-19-restrictions/ar-BB1a10zk?ocid=msedgntp

If knee jerk means about 10 days too late, than yeah knee jerk.

Widdensushi

Denny61 wrote: »

If it was a United island..it would be 2000 cases..it would be highest in Europe anyway...so in relative terms that would be 18000 cases in UK. And even at 12000 there at moment. Its frightening.
Puts this island into perspective!!!!!

No it wouldn't, Belgium for example is over 7000 cases today

ACitizenErased

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

Do we not normally have swab data by around 3?

can be as late as 5 some days

Icyseanfitz

Boggles wrote: »

If knee jerk means about 10 days too late, than yeah knee jerk.

How could we have known it would get bad - irish government 2020

is_that_so

ednwireland wrote: »

here comes the knee jerk

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/other/emergency-cabinet-meeting-to-discuss-northern-ireland-s-covid-19-restrictions/ar-BB1a10zk?ocid=msedgntp

Sure Leo's been out with that already! Those three counties are prime candidates for Level 4 with their 14 day average.

Boggles

1270 swabs.

Jumped positive percentage to 6.2%

TonyMaloney

1,269 pos swabs

16,126 tests

7.87% rate

Jim_Hodge

Denny61 wrote: »

If it was a United island..it would be 2000 cases..it would be highest in Europe anyway...so in relative terms that would be 18000 cases in UK. And even at 12000 there at moment. Its frightening.
Puts this island into perspective!!!!!

But you're comparing two different jurisdictions with different responses to the pandemic. You've no way of knowing what the NI figure would have been had it been an all island affair.

IrishStuff09

Swab data for today (14/10)

Positive Swabs|Positivity|Total Swabs
1269|7.8%|16126



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