Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

TonyMaloney

Boggles wrote: »

1270 swabs.

Jumped positive percentage to 6.2%

TonyMaloney wrote: »

1,269 pos swabs

16,126 tests

7.87% rate

uhoh

I'm going by this

https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/api/swabs/

Jim_Hodge

Boggles wrote: »

1270 swabs.

Jumped positive percentage to 6.2%

TonyMaloney wrote: »

1,269 pos swabs

16,126 tests

7.87% rate

Which positivity rate is it?

Boggles

TonyMaloney wrote: »

uhoh

I'm going by this

https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/api/swabs/

7 day positive.

MerlinSouthDub

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Which positivity rate is it?

The higher number is yesterday's swabs. The 6.2% is the 7 day average. Not a good day

stephenjmcd

If your in a border county best off going to get that haircut today. Level 4 closes non essential retail.
https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1316386919677296644?s=19

IrishStuff09

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Which positivity rate is it?

6.2% is the 7 day average

7.87% is the positivity over the last 24 hours (1269/16126)

Jim_Hodge

stephenjmcd wrote: »

If your in a border county best off going to get that haircut today. Level 4 closes non essential retail.
https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1316386919677296644?s=19

Will it be all border counties, as some are well below the national averages?

titan18

Well those are not good numbers.

ACitizenErased

You'd wonder will we see some big case numbers in the border counties today based on this so-called 'emergency' cabinet meeting.

440Hertz

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

Afraid not. NI churches remain open. Mask wearing inside not required.

Well, it’s a bit like the Republic 40+ years ago, or redneck parts of the USA today - it has a large cohort of religious fundamentalists in power and driving public policy. (I’m not saying everyone is, but there’s a signifiant chunk of NI politics that’s driven by it.)

Imagine if this had happened in the Republic in the 1970s and someone suggested closing down Mass and other church services? They’d have all been out getting extra COVID Mass, getting rubs of relics and doused in holy water.

Roll forward to 2020 and the Republic is much more secular, largely has a modern relationship with religion (and some legacy issues) but it’s very much more like the rest of Western Europe. The vast majority didn’t really bat an eyelid about that issue and the churches have been utterly pragmatic too. The big fuss has been about pubs and sports and from a few people on the fringes of the fringes of conspiracy theory politics, largely just an expression of online bubbles rather than real politics.

It’s ironic really, that in many ways the Republic & England (as well as most of Western Europe) probably have increasingly more in common on those and many other issues than 2020s England has with a large aspect of Northern Ireland, and increasingly those that are most out of sync with British social mores are probably also on the unionist and loyalist side of the divide.

seamus

Denny61 wrote: »

If it was a United island..it would be 2000 cases..it would be highest in Europe anyway...so in relative terms that would be 18000 cases in UK. And even at 12000 there at moment. Its frightening.
Puts this island into perspective!!!!!

Bizarre as it might sound, the Republic has the second lowest incidence in Western Europe at the moment, only higher than Portugal.

If the North and South were taken together, the North's bad rate would be masked by the South, the 14-day positivity would "only" be around 215/100k.

France, for reference, is at 315. The UK is at 283.

It's possible we're just lagging behind the other countries. It's possible that we actually have a better grip on it. We did back in March/April. Time will tell.

bennyl10

TonyMaloney wrote: »

1,269 pos swabs

16,126 tests

7.87% rate

oh terrific

So border level 4 today

rest of us level 4 by next week

is_that_so

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Will it be all border counties, as some are well below the national averages?

Louth should be OK and its rate has been easing down. Meath too, that Ratoath cluster notwithstanding. Apart from the 3 almost definites, no idea about other counties.

Str8outtaWuhan

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Will it be all border counties, as some are well below the national averages?

Pointless locking down Leitrim, there is no one there.

titan18

bennyl10 wrote: »

oh terrific

So border level 4 today

rest of us level 4 by next week

Going to get a haircut soon I'd say just incase.

eigrod

We should just give Donegal, Monaghan and Cavan back to Britain until the pandemic is over. Would make our figures much better.

440Hertz

seamus wrote: »

Bizarre as it might sound, the Republic has the second lowest incidence in Western Europe at the moment, only higher than Portugal.

If the North and South were taken together, the North's bad rate would be masked by the South, the 14-day positivity would "only" be around 215/100k.

France, for reference, is at 315. The UK is at 283.

It's possible we're just lagging behind the other countries. It's possible that we actually have a better grip on it. We did back in March/April. Time will tell.

All rather hypothetical though as the public policy may have been totally different. Also had a United Ireland existed, we wouldn’t have had the border and CTA complications and could well have gone for a far more serious bio security island approach months ago. Without all that hassle of being exposed to the currently rather irresponsible Trump-like Tory administration in London that has been floundering around all over the place since March, we might have actually had a very serious grip on this by now.

Ficheall

eigrod wrote: »

We should just give Donegal, Monaghan and Cavan back to Britain until the pandemic is over. Would make our figures much better.

Or Dublin - pretty much Sasanachs anyway 😛

Boggles

Boggles wrote: »

Could you link to the data you used to make this conclusion?

Christ, you'd try to start a fight with your shadow. Observation, from everyday conversation with people talking both about how bad it is in Dublin and how Dubliners were obeying no covid restrictions while simultaneously heading out, travelling around the country, going to gatherings and after match events etc, with a general attitude of thank god we are not like Dublin

Kermit.de.frog

IrishStuff09 wrote: »

Swab data for today (14/10)

Positive Swabs|Positivity|Total Swabs
1269|7.8%|16126

The boom is getting boomier

Kermit.de.frog

They rarely announce figures that close to the swabs so i'm guessing just over 1,000.

Although is a bit of a backlog there as well last couple of days...

JP Liz V1

1,217 new cases confirmed in NI

PowerToWait

The huge Cavan figures are indubitably resulting from GAA shenanigans over the past few weeks. The same crowd of whingers who brazenly called out NPHET are now in large part responsible for the closure of the main hospital serving the region.

UrbanFret

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

I think we need to consider putting border counties on level 5 to protect rest of country

We can’t have Nordies coming to hotels in the south on their holidays

You can consider all you like. thankfully you have zero input into it.

UrbanFret

PowerToWait wrote: »

The huge Cavan figures are indubitably resulting from GAA shenanigans over the past few weeks. The same crowd of whingers who brazenly called out NPHET are now in large part responsible for the closure of the main hospital serving the region.

The Cavan figures are dropping. We've got this.

AlphaDelta1

PowerToWait wrote: »

The huge Cavan figures are indubitably resulting from GAA shenanigans over the past few weeks. The same crowd of whingers who brazenly called out NPHET are now in large part responsible for the closure of the main hospital serving the region.

And plenty of business going bust over the next while. :mad:

seamus

ACitizenErased wrote: »

You'd wonder will we see some big case numbers in the border counties today based on this so-called 'emergency' cabinet meeting.

We've already seen big numbers there, but the main concern is that there's no way to stop people crossing the border, so the only option available to us is to remove any incentive to do so. That will require alignment of measures so that people from Newry aren't going to Dundalk for a haircut or a trip to Woodies.

There needs to be an enforcement element to it as well though, we can't just hope they don't turn up and you can't expect retailers in the South to refuse bookings from people with a Nordie accent.
This could be a good opportunity for Operation Fanacht to set up checkpoints just inside the border as a dry run for Brexit. Clog the main thoroughfares in and out of Northern Ireland, and focus on pulling over yellow regs in the South to "advise" them of the ongoing situation.

marno21

Bear in mind it still is only 7 days since Level 3 restrictions came in. These cases were guaranteed at that stage.

1200 cases a day is not sustainable with our healthcare system though.

Boggles

Deleted User wrote: »

Christ, you'd try to start a fight with your shadow. Observation, from everyday conversation with people talking both about how bad it is in Dublin and how Dubliners were obeying no covid restrictions while simultaneously heading out, travelling around the country, going to gatherings and after match events etc, with a general attitude of thank god we are not like Dublin

That's not data it's at best loose talk and hearsay.

Glad we cleared it up though.

AlphaDelta1

TonyMaloney wrote: »

1,269 pos swabs

16,126 tests

7.87% rate

Looking bleak.