Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

Funsterdelux

US2 wrote: »

With all the money spent on Private Hospitals, Renting the city West and the PUP payments we could have built a new hospital full of ICU beds for Covid patients ?

In Ireland?

Ger Roe

"Underlying issues does not make their deaths ok. My daughter was in hospital & has underlying issues! She was 12 & it took her 3 weeks to get better.
I cringe when I see people asking if these unfortunate people had other health issues. Their lives are just as valuable as those without underlying issues" (Knine)

Agreed. Lots of people have underlying issues. That doesn't mean that they are already at death's door. People with underlying issues are managing them every day in their otherwise normal lives. They are all around you and you don't need to know anything about it.

Why should they be dismissed as an acceptable casualty of Covid?

AlphaDelta1

Jizique wrote: »

Medics are always looking for more money, more resources - the black hole of Calcutta.
That Father Sean Healy should become their representative, he is usually the one with the hand out constantly.

Ah will you ever stop with this sh1te. Not everything is a conspiracy ffs. Maybe they are just honestly very concerned have you ever thought that.

stephenjmcd

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Where is the Gardai, bring in the army, we need strict enforcement and punishments

For what??

No law bring broken there for the Gardai to action. Not sure what you want them to do.

An Ciarraioch

pjohnson wrote: »

Yep agreed. Well minus the Dubs bit :P

The carry on after GAA club finals was a disgrace mind so hopefully people learned not to repeat it. Thats the danger to the GAA

TBF, before the All-Irelands would be held in December, you'd only have six items of silverware to be handed out, and of those, you're unlikely to see wild celebrations over the Munster, Leinster or Connacht football championships, so Ulster, Munster hurling and Leinster hurling would be the main dangers.

pjohnson

Ger Roe wrote: »

Agreed. Lots of people have underlying issues. That doesn't mean that they are already at death's door. People with underlying issues are managing them every day in their otherwise normal lives. They are all around you and you don't need to know anything about it.

Why should they be dismissed as an acceptable casualty of Covid?

People have been dismissing them for months in order to get the restrictions relaxed.

Spanish Eyes

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Ive just learned from a reliable soucre, that the Government are coordinating with Met Eireann to implement the new restrictions in line with the crappiest weather we will have this week.

So possibly tomorrow or early tuesday.

Perfect timing. Might make the pups behave for a bit. But Mondays are like that.

Without a buy in from everyone this ain't going to work much. Very downhearted now since the further restrictions will generally only affect those who observed for the social good all along. Not the pups who didn't and will not ever either.

I don't know where we go from here. Curfew? More Garda powers for enforcement? Although the head of the Gardai is not in favour of that either.

I dunno. It's a waste of time if the source of the uptick is not identified, or maybe sources should I say, and lock THEM down!

Trying to be upbeat, but it isn't easy is it.

Happydays2020

It will be a case of:

“The beatings will stop when morale improves”.

Sweet.Science

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

TBF, before the All-Irelands would be held in December, you'd only have six items of silverware to be handed out, and of those, you're unlikely to see wild celebrations over the Munster, Leinster or Connacht football championships, so Ulster, Munster hurling and Leinster hurling would be the main dangers.

Level 10 when Mayo win it

pjohnson

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Level 10 when Mayo win it

If Mayo make the final its guaranteed the final will be cancelled :pac:

DebDynamite

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Where is the Gardai, bring in the army, we need strict enforcement and punishments

Is this for real? And Pearse Street Garda station one side of Grafton Street, and Kevin Street on the other. In this case, a squad car showing up would’ve been enough to disperse the crowd. Fair enough, they can’t enter homes to break up parties or gatherings, but they can put a stop to the likes of this.

Sofa King Great

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Where is the Gardai, bring in the army, we need strict enforcement and punishments

While the legislation isn't there Dublin City Council could enact a bye-law to ban drinking on the street (I spent my entire teens twenties and thirties thinking it was already against the law) and ban busking

DebDynamite

stephenjmcd wrote: »

For what??

No law bring broken there for the Gardai to action. Not sure what you want them to do.

Would it not be classed as a gathering?

Strumms

Knine wrote: »

Underlying issues does not make their deaths ok. My daughter was in hospital & has underlying issues! She was 12 & it took her 3 weeks to get better.

I cringe when I see people asking if these unfortunate people had other health issues. Their lives are just as valuable as those without underlying issues

100%.

I’m fûcking hate when bad numbers are announced the ‘underlying conditions’ brigade are seconds away... lots of people have underlying conditions, but don’t deserve to die and won’t if we protect them.

stephenjmcd

DebDynamite wrote: »

Would it not be classed as a gathering?

Can't do anything about them, only organised gatherings.

Random people on a street doesn't fall under penal provisions.

At best theres public order but no breach of public order in that video

Plumbthedepths

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Where is the Gardai, bring in the army, we need strict enforcement and punishments

'bring in the army' ffs.

ACitizenErased

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

'bring in the army' ffs.

I for one think the navy should be patrolling the local river banks

HeyV

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

'bring in the army' ffs.

And what do you advise? Just leave them at it?

domrush

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Our GNP figures also fare favorably compared to other EU member States. As you know, GNP removes the profits of MNC's.

Source?

Eod100

She has a point. Some FG politicians act like they're in opposition with this new government. https://twitter.com/RoisinShortall/status/1317884536101982209?s=19

Seamai

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Ive just learned from a reliable soucre, that the Government are coordinating with Met Eireann to implement the new restrictions in line with the crappiest weather we will have this week.

So possibly tomorrow or early tuesday.

Don't be trying to jinx things, the last thing we want is a repetition of the two bad winters we had ten and eleven years ago.

Jinglejangle69

Eod100 wrote: »

She has a point. Some FG politicians act like they're in opposition with this new government. https://twitter.com/RoisinShortall/status/1317884536101982209?s=19

Sorry, am I missing something here??

Happydays2020

The cost of two months of lockdown In PUP payments alone is a new high tech public hospital.

CIARAN_BOYLE

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

'bring in the army' ffs.

The army could be called into assist the civil authority in operating checkpoints and similar to free up ags to enforce measures (should the government bring in laws against actions seen in these videos).

Polar101

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Met Eireann to implement the new restrictions in line with the crappiest weather we will have this week.

I'm blaming Tony Holohan and the entire NPHET for any bad weather.

mountgomery burns

https://twitter.com/FineGael/status/1317750590156525568?s=20


Brilliant parody from this fake Fine Gael account

...wait what? It's real?

spookwoman

Strumms

Happydays2020 wrote: »

The cost of two months of lockdown In PUP payments alone is a new high tech public hospital.

We’ll have a vaccine a lot faster than you’ll plan, tender, ready a site, build, and equip a hospital

JP Liz V1

Sofa King Great wrote: »

While the legislation isn't there Dublin City Council could enact a bye-law to ban drinking on the street (I spent my entire teens twenties and thirties thinking it was already against the law) and ban busking

I thought 15 for outdoor dining was the max

niallo27

Ger Roe wrote: »

"Underlying issues does not make their deaths ok. My daughter was in hospital & has underlying issues! She was 12 & it took her 3 weeks to get better.
I cringe when I see people asking if these unfortunate people had other health issues. Their lives are just as valuable as those without underlying issues" (Knine)

Agreed. Lots of people have underlying issues. That doesn't mean that they are already at death's door. People with underlying issues are managing them every day in their otherwise normal lives. They are all around you and you don't need to know anything about it.

Why should they be dismissed as an acceptable casualty of Covid?

Wouldn't it be good to know if they had underlying issues so people with similar underlying conditions would know they are of a higher risk and take extra precautions. Nobody said their deaths were ok, but its important to know who is more at risk and what age groups are more at risk.