Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

weldoninhio

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

Doesn't matter. I'm still unemployed because people are acting the b****x.

You’re unemployed because the government has closed things. No other reason.

podgeandrodge

Coronavirus Infection Rate Among Children Surges as Schools Reopen

The sudden and dramatic increase coincides with schools reopening across the country.
By Lauren Camera Senior Education Writer • Oct. 1, 2020, at 12:17 p.m.

The number of children infected with the coronavirus rose dramatically between April and September, according to new research by the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Children's Hospital Association, and by more than 14% in the last two weeks alone – a surge that coincides with schools reopening across the country.

"These rising numbers concern us greatly, as the children's cases reflect the increasing virus spread in our communities," Sally Goza, president of the American Academy of Pediatrics, said in a statement. "While children generally don't get as sick with the coronavirus as adults, they are not immune and there is much to learn about how easily they can transmit it to others."

Drawing on data from state health departments, researchers analyzed trends over five months in reported COVID-19 cases and found that the number of children infected rose from 2.2% of all cumulative reported cases nationwide in April to 10% of all cases in September.

Notably, in the last eight weeks, children represented between 12% and 16% of newly reported cases each week, according to the study. In the two-week span of Sept. 10 to Sept. 24, more than 75,000 new child cases were reported – a 14% increase in child cases over two weeks.

frank8211

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Massive number in Cavan for a population of that size

yes but the post match parties were a whale of a time

https://www.anglocelt.ie/2020/10/03/crosserlough-end-48-year-famine-with-replay-win/

JP Liz V1

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Massive number in Cavan for a population of that size

And Meath too but given it's location to Dublin so near is it expected

How many weeks now has Dublin been on level 3 to see some decrease

PowerToWait

It's a funny old pandemic that destroys peoples' mental health with a vengeance yet never before have there been more house parties.

The youth 'irreversibly damaged' according to one poster, yet massive raves are making a comeback.

A tale of two pandemics.

Doctor Jimbob

Stheno wrote: »

More mixed messaging

Don't meet people, but the guidelines are its ok to meet people from one household

The fact he specifically calls out play dates but continues with the policy of ignoring schools is a cracker as well.

KrustyUCC

bennyl10 wrote: »

It’s almost as if exactly what NPHeT said would happen is happening. Shocking how a bunch of politicians with no knowledge don’t know more than the professionals.

Utterly shocking

Today is day 7 of additional restrictions

NPHET have consistently said any changes in restrictions or easing restrictions take 10-14 days minimum for any effect to be noticed

Jinglejangle69

Blondini wrote: »

Sure.

Put 1 million people tightly packed indoors and now we have this mess.

Coincidence of the century.

Have you a link to 1 million people?

Not saying you're wrong but would like to see the link to that number.

sterz

bennyl10 wrote: »

It’s almost as if exactly what NPHeT said would happen is happening. Shocking how a bunch of politicians with no knowledge don’t know more than the professionals.

Utterly shocking

It's almost as if NPHET were unable to justify saying level 2 was fine on one day and then saying that level 5 was required just three days later.

CIARAN_BOYLE

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

And Meath too but given it's location to Dublin so near is it expected

How many weeks now has Dublin been on level 3 to see some decrease

Level 3 won't show decrease. It slashed the growth rate and that's it.

s1ippy

Wolf359f wrote: »

Well the next press conference we should have more details from professor Nolan about cases in schools.
As pointed out numerous times the % incident rate in 0-14 year olds hasn't increased in relation to other age groups that would show a significant spread.

Another simple option is seeing how many cases have occured in households with school going children and how many occured in households without school going children. If the % is split equally, it should be pretty definitive.

Definitively what? The community transmission is increasing so the cases associated with schools are increasing. The amount of schools with cases are increasing so there's increased community spread. It's correlation and causation at the same time.

Unless every other part of society was completely locked down, you could not definitely say that schools were the cause of the increase in transmission. But as it stands, transmission is so widespread that continued school attendance in its current guise is not safe.

The fact that the cases in these settings are a closely guarded state secret means that the staff, students and families connected with any school at all can't make an informed decision to protect themselves.

https://twitter.com/DrMaireadDB/status/1316275837591789576?s=20

seamus

Neither level 4 or 5 will work, for the reasons Dr Glynn has outlined.

Because it's time for people to knock the socialising on the head. Leave retail open, let people go about their business. But all socialising needs to come to a halt. No visitors to your home, no house parties or garden parties, no big family gatherings in the park.

And no amount of closing shops or schools will stop that. People have to do it themselves.

CruelSummer

mloc123 wrote: »

They have none... Just a disgruntled teacher

Most teachers I know want schools to remain open. If there’s another plan in the works, re blended learning/closure - best start planning for it now ahead of mid term.

ACitizenErased

frank8211 wrote: »

yes but the post match parties were a whale of a time

https://www.anglocelt.ie/2020/10/03/crosserlough-end-48-year-famine-with-replay-win/

Its almost as if cavan is bordering some sort of infection riddled country isnt it

podgeandrodge

bb1234567 wrote: »

Nearly every European country is seeing large numbers of cases and hospitalisations..except Sweden, Greece and Norway also still holding firm

Sorry, meant where are the cases in Europe coming from as in what's causing them!

ChikiChiki

JP100 wrote: »

But but level 3 is working!!

Calm down there. 10 days in, will only see trend change soon.

It's mad how people expect all most instant results with the level changes.

Turtwig

bb1234567 wrote: »

Nearly every European country is seeing large numbers of cases and hospitalisations..except Sweden, Greece and Norway also still holding firm

Early days yet but both Sweden and Norway have seen bad indicators in the past two weeks. Also worth pointing out that Sweden have an ethically questionable triage system for determining who even gets treated in hospital.

iamwhoiam

I see no point in increasing Levels . They could increase to Level 904 and still the same eejits wont comply
What they need is ENFORCEMENT of a level .

polesheep

PowerToWait wrote: »

It's a funny old pandemic that destroys peoples' mental health with a vengeance yet never before have there been more house parties.

The youth 'irreversibly damaged' according to one poster, yet massive raves are making a comeback.

A tale of two pandemics.

You really shouldn't twist another poster's words to suit your own point. For clarification, my post is below.

"I agree. They've sacrificed a lot this year. For some of them their lives will have been irreversibly damaged. They have moved on now and good luck to them."

frank8211

Sonny678 wrote: »

5 teachers in kildare school have the coronavirus. 6 teachers in Westmeath school have the coronavirus. Media again ignoring whats going on in schools.

Yes its very odd. They are taking the Govt NphET line unquestioningly

is_that_so

Sonny678 wrote: »

5 teachers in kildare school have the coronavirus. 6 teachers in Westmeath school have the coronavirus. Media again ignoring whats going on in schools.

Don't we have thousands of teachers, who are not ill? No shock here, we've been told to expect it.

Stheno

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

The fact he specifically calls out play dates but continues with the policy of ignoring schools is a cracker as well.

Exactly

Its no way to get people on board

Leftwaffe

seamus wrote: »

Neither level 4 or 5 will work, for the reasons Dr Glynn has outlined.

Because it's time for people to knock the socialising on the head. Leave retail open, let people go about their business. But all socialising needs to come to a halt. No visitors to your home, no house parties or garden parties, no big family gatherings in the park.

And no amount of closing shops or schools will stop that. People have to do it themselves.

Sorry but that's just never going to happen.

Martina1991

Roger_007 wrote: »

Is there any info on how many of the cases in hospital were infected with Covid while in hospital as opposed to being admitted because they had Covid.
This would present a completely different picture on the hospital statistics!

Why would it.
How is contracting Covid in hospital any better to being hospitalised because of Covid.

If a person was admitted for COPD, stroke, heart failure, sepsis or any other number of conditions, contracting Covid could cause their condition to seriously deteriorate.

Outbreaks in hospitals are disasters.

fleet_admiral

Re: GAA clubs and parties. Now that they have all been identified should the cases not come down now?

CruelSummer

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

The fact he specifically calls out play dates but continues with the policy of ignoring schools is a cracker as well.

Play dates account for adults interacting also without protocols in the family home, and could involve sharing lifts, etc.

mloc123

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I see no point in increasing Levels . They could increase to Level 904 and still the same eejits wont comply
What they need is ENFORCEMENT of a level .

This is the kicker. If people have followed the level 2 guidelines strickly, we wouldn't have a issue now.

AdamD

seamus wrote: »

Neither level 4 or 5 will work, for the reasons Dr Glynn has outlined.

Because it's time for people to knock the socialising on the head. Leave retail open, let people go about their business. But all socialising needs to come to a halt. No visitors to your home, no house parties or garden parties, no big family gatherings in the park.

And no amount of closing shops or schools will stop that. People have to do it themselves.

Rightly or wrongly, the government will not be able to stop people socialising for more months on end, that's pretty clear. I doubt the people having house parties are watching Dr Glynn on RTE either, its just bluster.

Jinglejangle69

fleet_admiral wrote: »

Re: GAA clubs and parties. Now that they have all been identified should the cases not come down now?

Some happened only last weekend.

Can take 14 days to get symptoms.

Think of the spread during those 14 days.

Sonny678

9 teachers in a school in longford have the coronavirus, 6 teachers in a school in Westmeath have the coronavirus and 5 teachers in a school in kildare have coronavirus. And 2 teachers in a neighbouring kildare town in another school have the virus. Again the media are ignoring whats going on in schools.