What is the future of retail in Ireland?

mariaalice

I went into what I thought was an independent book shop but apparently, they have been sold to Easons I did it just to be supportive as I want shops to stay open. I want bookshops with staff who read the books and are knowledgeable about books, not just retail staff.

Debenhams have close here what will replace them?

Or all we all doomed to a life of online shopping.

Eric Cartman

the highstreet is mostly doomed. Middling shops can't survive competing with online sales. Shipping being too expensive helps really low end stores like euro giant, pennys etc... High end stores still have a place so I don't see brown Thomas going anywhere. But middle of the road , especially in fashion is doomed to collapse or consolidate. The food hall will keep the lights on in M&S / dunes allowing them to keep selling clothes and homewares but the writing is on the wall for the likes of H&M and smaller single brand clothing outlets like zara/next etc...

Consumers under 35 are willing to wait to save a few quid and much more likely to buy everything online. Anything that involves leaving the house to access tends to be struggling at present. Even before covid the bar and restaurant businesses were suffering. Deliveroo pioneered 'dark kitchens' recognising that the future is all takeaway and doesn't require a storefront.

The future is that shopping spaces and stores are completely segregated with whole streets/malls catering almost exclusively to either the high or the low end depending on location. The only large anchor stores that can sustain a shopping centre will have to be primarily higher end food and furniture to survive thus keeping the shopping centre open.

suicide_circus

Dealz with self services tills on every street next to a Starbucks

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suicide_circus wrote: »

Dealz with self services tills on every street next to a Starbucks

+ Betting shops

Eric Cartman

suicide_circus wrote: »

Dealz with self services tills on every street next to a Starbucks

big fcuk off Aldi ----200 meters---dealz, bookies, post office, Starbucks, other bookies, spar

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200 meters lidl

I give you urban village Ireland 2025.

Del2005

Eric Cartman wrote: »

big fcuk off Aldi ----200 meters---dealz, bookies, post office, Starbucks, other bookies, spar

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200 meters lidl

I give you urban village Ireland 2025.

Don't forget the charity shops and bookies.

Eric Cartman

Del2005 wrote: »

Don't forget the charity shops and bookies.

I included 2 bookies in there :pac:

theres one big betting company in Ireland that has a planning model they call the 'golden radius' you basically draw a 200 meter circle around the post office, a newsagents(or anywhere that sells smokes) and the pub and try lease the building as central to all those as you can.

drunkmonkey

One side of me is thinking your going to see a lot more people start their own businesses as they won't have an option due to the mass unemployment that's going to occur when all these working from home are made redundant. They'd be nieve to think their employers haven't noticed there no longer required. A lot of people on the pandemic unemployment payment jobs are gone.

We may see lots more shops if overheads such as rent can be severely reduced. Of all the places that feel weird to enter now it's shopping centers.

biko

As long as people will go to the major shops like Lidl/Iceland etc over the local smaller shops the decline will continue.

pgj2015

shopping for clothes online is a no no for me unless I have already bought the exact same shirt or jeans before. You can't trust the size will be right, that it will look the same as it does online etc then you have the hassle of sending it back, no thanks.

Eric Cartman

drunkmonkey wrote: »

One side of me is thinking your going to see a lot more people start their own businesses as they won't have an option due to the mass unemployment that's going to occur when all these working from home are made redundant. They'd be nieve to think their employers haven't noticed there no longer required. A lot of people on the pandemic unemployment payment jobs are gone.

We may see lots more shops if overheads such as rent can be severely reduced. Of all the places that feel weird to enter now it's shopping centers.

as commercial rents tumble and with rising unemployment you're going to get a lot more 'leisure' spaces, pool halls, 'casinos', tattoo shops. You'll have a load of coffee and cafe type places too.