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laoch na mona

Birdnuts wrote: »

A very toxic and twisted society - found out recently that my mothers grand uncles children ended up in Letterfrack sometime just after WW1 due to their mother dieing in childbirth. The only info we have is that one of them died homeless in Dublin sometime in the late 60's. No idea if the other 2 made it out of the home dead or alive. I'm trying the get my hands on the book "Founded on Fear" which chronicles the experience of one young lad who was there in the late 20's and early 30's when the notorious Br Covax and others were running rampant with savagery and perversion. Actually on my Fathers side something similar happened to his father who was in a Christian Brother industrial school in the 30's with his 2 brothers in the SW. Thankfully he managed to get out in one piece(but never spoke about it) while his 2 brothers died homeless and destitute in the UK during the 70's

Very sad and far to common a story.


a cousin of my father was a christian brother and was sent out to South America, I'm not sure of the details aside from he was with abusers at some point as he doesn't really talk about it but he came back with a hatred of the brothers from it and left the order.



Its shocking the culture of silence around that generation even now they mutter its terrible when things like the mother and baby homes come up but aren't comfortable talking about it a lot of the time. I remember when the film Philomena came out an old woman near me in the village shop one day cursing the clearly from high (she'd a sister a nun and two brothers priests) and saying such and such a person was sent to the nuns when she was young.


We were a very uncaring cruel society for a long time, still are at times

Say my name

When you've God on your side, you can get away with murder ..literally.

Wasn't it on other threads that a Bishop was ordering the deaths of whole towns in France as they were against the religion? Made it easier to kill, men, women and children by calling them heretics.

If you were religious and believe in God and the Devil. You'd say they were led by the Devil not God.

Birdnuts

Say my name wrote: »

When you've God on your side, you can get away with murder ..literally.

Wasn't it on other threads that a Bishop was ordering the deaths of whole towns in France as they were against the religion? Made it easier to kill, men, women and children by calling them heretics.

If you were religious and believe in God and the Devil. You'd say they were led by the Devil not God.

A couple of years ago I learnt while on a tour of the Medieval mile in Kilkenny City that the first witch burning ever recorded took place in the city as ordered by the Bishop(sometime in the 13the century) at the time as part of a dispute he had with the widow of a wealthy merchant who owned land the Church wanted to get their hands on.

148multi

There were two sisters from a neighbouring house in the convent, very nice nuns, every time they were home they visited, one was in Africa and the other the US. I was 6-7 years old when I overheard a conversation between my parents and one of the sisters.
The nun said that the road to hell was paved with the heads of parents that put their daughters in convents.
The hairs stood on the back of my neck from what was said and the emotional tone it was said in.
Years later I found out that the convent had a hysterectomy preformed on her before sending her to Africa.
She dearly loved her parents but she was clearly very conflicted with her emotions.
Another lady who was a nurse when she joined the convent, who worked in a state hospital as a nun and her wages were paid to the convent.
She left the convent in her late 40s, but when she applied for the contributry pension the convent had drawn all her stamps.

Say my name

Birdnuts wrote: »

A couple of years ago I learnt while on a tour of the Medieval mile in Kilkenny City that the first witch burning ever recorded took place in the city as ordered by the Bishop(sometime in the 13the century) at the time as part of a dispute he had with the widow of a wealthy merchant who owned land the Church wanted to get their hands on.

I actually read about this on Twitter lately.

It was a woman who was on her third or fourth marriage.
Wb Yeats even included her in some of his poems.
The bishop was a bit of a rogue and couldn't catch this woman, she was a shrewed business woman and fled the country. The bishop looking for his pound of flesh burned her maid instead for devil worship.
I think the bishop was killed years after.

Water John

An interesting thing also on how nuns were actually used by the Orders they gave their life to. When they die the Order say they return the nun's body to her family. The reality of what that means is, the family pays for the funeral. That's all the thanks.

Nekarsulm

Picked up every interesting little book in a charity shop about 5 years ago.
Called "Old watering holes" and was the story of a young girl called Hillary Lyons who travelled from her Mayo home to Killeshandra in Cavan ( by train, couldn't happen now) to the convent there.
Trained as a doctor then spent her life in Sierra Leone running a medical centre in an area where revolution and death were not uncommon.
Retired back to Ireland after 50 years to find the convent long sold ( to the Co op) and to an Ireland unrecognisable to the one she left.
If you come across it anywhere, I thoroughly recommend it.

_Brian

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Picked up every interesting little book in a charity shop about 5 years ago.
Called "Old watering holes" and was the story of a young girl called Hillary Lyons who travelled from her Mayo home to Killeshandra in Cavan ( by train, couldn't happen now) to the convent there.
Trained as a doctor then spent her life in Sierra Leone running a medical centre in an area where revolution and death were not uncommon.
Retired back to Ireland after 50 years to find the convent long sold ( to the Co op) and to an Ireland unrecognisable to the one she left.
If you come across it anywhere, I thoroughly recommend it.

Was very saddened few years ago to stand watching Lakeland knocking the convent building. I couldn’t believe they got away with that.

Nekarsulm

Yeah, it had been completely neglected for years.
I was at the furniture auction in ( I think) late 1985, when the order sold off the fixtures and fittings.
I bought two big file cabinets, and still remember the coin dealers bidding on the gold Krugerands.
Enormous crowd that day, as few from the locality had ever been inside.
It had been vandalised completely since, and looted of a lot of architectural salvage, the roof on the old house part had failed and the floors were rotted away by water ingress.
The "new" part was a concrete pile, and of little difference to a thousand other communist-bloc inspiredbuildings, but the old house should have been saved as one if the birth places of the Co-OP movement in Ireland.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Lough

https://www.derelictplaces.co.uk/threads/killashandra-convent-ireland-july-2009.11954/

_Brian

Shed & Buried on Quest.
The staple of late night viewing

foxy farmer

_Brian wrote: »

Shed & Buried on Quest.
The staple of late night viewing

Ffs go to bed!
I'm as bad watching QI on Dave.

liosnagceann75

foxy farmer wrote: »

Ffs go to bed!
I'm as bad watching QI on Dave.

Calving cameras great viewing

Avns1s

liosnagceann75 wrote: »

Calving cameras great viewing

"The Farming Channel" as it's known around here.

SouthWesterly

I see this morning that inspection of meat products leaving NI at the ports has been suspended due to intimidation of staff.

Paisley junior instead of condemning it said ' well what did you expect to happen with the NI protocol'

His father would turn in his grave.

orm0nd

Is 2 euro still the stamp for bvd samples, only have a few but need to transfer a few animals to another herd. No.

whelan2

orm0nd wrote: »

Is 2 euro still the stamp for bvd samples, only have a few but need to transfer a few animals to another herd. No.

That's what I've been putting on them. Arriving ok. Just looked it up. Still 2 euro according to ahi website

Tileman

SouthWesterly wrote: »

I see this morning that inspection of meat products leaving NI at the ports has been suspended due to intimidation of staff.

Paisley junior instead of condemning it said ' well what did you expect to happen with the NI protocol'

His father would turn in his grave.

I don’t think his dad would turn in his grave.

Paisley senior would have being the one orchestrating the violence if he was still alive.
Paisley junior and a few more are trying to stir up trouble there again. Instead of showing leadership and understand what a great deal NI has.

148multi

Tileman wrote: »

I don’t think his dad would turn in his grave.

Paisley senior would have being the one orchestrating the violence if he was still alive.
Paisley junior and a few more are trying to stir up trouble there again. Instead of showing leadership and understand what a great deal NI has.

Yes indeed, big Ian had organised the paramilitaries behind him with the strike.
His explanation was, that was the way it was
Then.

Water John

The Highland Vet is on Channel 5 ATM. Haven't seen it before.

White Clover

Water John wrote: »

The Highland Vet is on Channel 5 ATM. Haven't seen it before.

What channel on sky, WJ?

Water John

Don't know, just got Saorview here. Not giving those feckers any money.

wrangler

Water John wrote: »

Don't know, just got Saorview here. Not giving those feckers any money.

Freesat is free, ch5 is 105 and ch5+1 is 128

https://www.freesat.co.uk/tv-guide

Rare breed is on utv now

trg

Hey, what's the feed quality like in silage taken from paddocks gone too strong?

Is there more feed value or less compared to the traditional fields set aside for silage fodder?

Water John

If done right it should be better as it have not being growing as long, more leafy, less stem. Problem in a lot of cases is the N is relatively high.

laoch na mona

SouthWesterly wrote: »

I see this morning that inspection of meat products leaving NI at the ports has been suspended due to intimidation of staff.

Paisley junior instead of condemning it said ' well what did you expect to happen with the NI protocol'

His father would turn in his grave.

Big Ian at least saw the light after decades of supporting those paramilitaries. in the 60/70s he would definitely support intimidating workers remember he supported a unionist paramilitary orchestrated strike to bring down the first attempt at a limited form of powersharing


The success of the GFA owes a fair bit to Ian Paisley and McGuinness being able to work together its mad to see the son undoing his work

Danzy

laoch na mona wrote: »

Big Ian at least saw the light after decades of supporting those paramilitaries. in the 60/70s he would definitely support intimidating workers remember he supported a unionist paramilitary orchestrated strike to bring down the first attempt at a limited form of powersharing


The success of the GFA owes a fair bit to Ian Paisley and McGuinness being able to work together its mad to see the son undoing his work

He knows that the loyalist paramilitaries will not be allowed act without a nod from someone from British security.

They never have.

Anyone going solo will find it doesn't work out well for them.

zetecescort

after a few weeks off This Farming Life returns tonight at 8 on BBC 2

Nekarsulm

SouthWesterly wrote: »

I see this morning that inspection of meat products leaving NI at the ports has been suspended due to intimidation of staff.

Paisley junior instead of condemning it said ' well what did you expect to happen with the NI protocol'

His father would turn in his grave.

Wouldn't be too surprised at the port of Larne, to be honest.
Only been there a few times, was always glad to leave.

Odelay

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Wouldn't be too surprised at the port of Larne, to be honest.
Only been there a few times, was always glad to leave.

I took a wrong turn there once. It’s hostile.

patsy_mccabe

Had an 2004 cow here and thought it was time to get rid of her. Didn't put her back in calf last year. Was about to take her to the mart when another younger cow calved a dead calf. She was hard to get in calf, so decided to sell both together.
Had them booked into mart and a few days before, younger one gets lame. Waited a few weeks and when she was fine, booked them again. All set to go today and yesterday found older one lame. That's twice booked and didn't bring them.
You'd want the patience of Jobe at this farming lark.