No quitten we're whelan on to chitchat 11

Pussyhands

Water John wrote: »

I would say half a round bale per week. No need to clean out, let it build up. Slope is key, 1:20.

Would you recommend it? It's a reasonable thing to be at?

Water John

I'm not the best to give the advice as I have a slatted area also where they eat. The bedding then is a lying area. The capital cost difference is huge. A small number of animals couldn't justify slats.
If you have some standing area for them to eat, eg. a circular feeder on a concrete yard, straw bedding is ideal.

Hard Knocks

Pussyhands wrote: »

Wondering if there'd be much work if you had 8 weanlings in a pen for winter under straw. Would they go through the straw like mad? Or could you have the pen sloped so the liquid seeps away? How much straw would you reckon you'd need and how often would ya need to clean it out?

Alternative is 2 bay slatted, what would the cost difference be in putting up a regular shed v putting in a tank? Bit of extra space would be nice.

Also how long before you let calves in on slats?

Years ago we’d weanlings on straw
They were separated 1 of bulls and 1 of heifers
Weanling bulls are easier kept than heifers
We just kept adding as needed and got a loader to clean out in the summer
Ideally an apron along the feed barrier

wrangler

Water John wrote: »

I'm not the best to give the advice as I have a slatted area also where they eat. The bedding then is a lying area. The capital cost difference is huge. A small number of animals couldn't justify slats.
If you have some standing area for them to eat, eg. a circular feeder on a concrete yard, straw bedding is ideal.

Open yards aren't legal now unless you've a tank to scrape them into

Base price

I'd sleep on a bed of nails tonight.

We had a cow calving last night and when I checked her at 3am there was a leg down. I got OH up outta bed and between him working with his good arm and me with both we managed to push the calf back and get the missing leg up. I've more aches and pains than I would have had 10 years ago.

Pussyhands

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Years ago we’d weanlings on straw
They were separated 1 of bulls and 1 of heifers
Weanling bulls are easier kept than heifers
We just kept adding as needed and got a loader to clean out in the summer
Ideally an apron along the feed barrier

How much straw would you go through do you reckon?

Is there any use for that used straw then? Is it worth anything?

Base price

Pussyhands wrote: »

How much straw would you go through do you reckon?
How big is the pen that you are putting the weanlings into. Currently round bales of wbs/sbs are selling at €35+ delivery and it's only going to get more expensive in the future if tillage farmers opt for the new scheme.

Hard Knocks

Pussyhands wrote: »

How much straw would you go through do you reckon?

Is there any use for that used straw then? Is it worth anything?

The FYM is fantastic fertilizer
Shed layout was a 35m wide Dry shed at the back of a slatted pen, each pen was 1 bay, 12-15 in each pen
Bulls would need a freshing once a week, heifers could be the same unless any were in heat

einn32

Base price wrote: »

I'd sleep on a bed of nails tonight.

We had a cow calving last night and when I checked her at 3am there was a leg down. I got OH up outta bed and between him working with his good arm and me with both we managed to push the calf back and get the missing leg up. I've more aches and pains than I would have had 10 years ago.

Great feeling though when ya succeed like that. The wins always drove me on through the calving season.

I says

I says wrote: »

The last few elections was ff/fg sneering SF but at this stage I’ll vote for sf because I’m sick of ff/fg.

Beacon hospital vaccine jabs for the elite and their cronies, nothing will be done by those in power. SF, people before profit and the social dems are going to get a lot more votes in the next election.

Dinzee Conlee

I says wrote: »

Beacon hospital vaccine jabs for the elite and their cronies, nothing will be done by those in power. SF, people before profit and the social dems are going to get a lot more votes in the next election.

Possibly...

But will think they will be different?

Did the storey funeral up the north show that SF think the rules don’t apply to them?
Will they just look after their own when they get the power, same as all the rest?

JustJoe7240

I says wrote: »

Beacon hospital vaccine jabs for the elite and their cronies, nothing will be done by those in power. SF, people before profit and the social dems are going to get a lot more votes in the next election.

That was said before the last election, SF got a record number of seats, but what has changed?

kollegeknight

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

Possibly...

But will think they will be different?

Did the storey funeral up the north show that SF think the rules don’t apply to them?
Will they just look after their own when they get the power, same as all the rest?

I reckon in recent years, Irish political parties are only good in opposition. The second they get in power, they are either useless or corrupt, it doesn’t matter what party name or principles they have on the flyer.

I says

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

Possibly...

But will think they will be different?

Did the storey funeral up the north show that SF think the rules don’t apply to them?
Will they just look after their own when they get the power, same as all the rest?

So you’re happy to get billed by the same crowd every election. No harm in seeing will SF saddle us any differently.

Water John

I always will look at alternatives, but don't believe SF fit the bill, they just pretend to. BTW I have voted both SD and Green. I would see the SDs as my nearest fit ATM.

Dinzee Conlee

I says wrote: »

So you’re happy to get billed by the same crowd every election. No harm in seeing will SF saddle us any differently.

I think it’ll be the same whoever it is, just different names or logos, but same thing overall...

I think SF if they got into power, would overall make the same decisions but would tinker with the edges to put their slant on it... that’s it...

Now, having said all that, I am not sure I could bring myself to vote SF. I don’t trust or like any of them, but I REALLY don’t trust or like SF...

Dinzee Conlee

Water John wrote: »

I always will look at alternatives, but don't believe SF fit the bill, they just pretend to. BTW I have voted both SD and Green. I would see the SDs as my nearest fit ATM.

Yeah, voted SD in last election, and she got in.
Not sure what kinda job she’s doing to be honest, havent heard neither good nor bad...

Rosahane

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

Yeah, voted SD in last election, and she got in.
Not sure what kinda job she’s doing to be honest, havent heard neither good nor bad...

The problem with the SDs is that they are determined never to go into government. Their leaders were both in government in the past and didn't appreciate having to make the hard decisions.

I can't see the point of voting for them if that's their attitude as their policies are meaningless since there is no prospect of them being implemented!

Water John

Was disappointed they didn't, but they have considerable ability and carry weight in the Dail.

Albert Johnson

Did you venture to Kilmallock today Water John?

ruwithme

Traveled a couple of different main roads today within the county,its a little over a year with covid, since i was on the same roads.

Almost unbelievable the state these roads are in.we are all still paying road tax,annual tests e.t.c relative to having a vehicle on the road.

No doubt the poor state of roads is replicated across the country.

whelan2

ruwithme wrote: »

Traveled a couple of different main roads today within the county,its a little over a year with covid, since i was on the same roads.

Almost unbelievable the state these roads are in.we are all still paying road tax,annual tests e.t.c relative to having a vehicle on the road.

No doubt the poor state of roads is replicated across the country.

Had to go to Newry today to collect oh who was leaving his lorry up to main dealer to be fixed. Road was very quiet. Went into the services on motorway on the way back it was so quiet

Kevhog1988

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

Possibly...

But will think they will be different?

Did the storey funeral up the north show that SF think the rules don’t apply to them?
Will they just look after their own when they get the power, same as all the rest?

There was a state funeral in the 26 around the same time that albeit after tragic circumstances it still had similar numbers at it.

tanko

Luxembourg :eek:

whelan2

tanko wrote: »

Luxembourg :eek:

It was a good goal

whelan2

Cant believe Anne doyle is 10 years retired

Birdnuts

tanko wrote: »

Luxembourg :eek:

In fairness they are a team on the up and have the only player on the pitch that has played in the Champions league. In contrast this is easily the worst Irish team in 40+ years. I do feel sorry for Kenny as between that and mass injuries its been a poisoned chalice since the start:(

Say my name

whelan2 wrote: »

Cant believe Anne doyle is 10 years retired

Great Ferns woman.

Came from a thatched house I think?

straight

ruwithme wrote: »

Traveled a couple of different main roads today within the county,its a little over a year with covid, since i was on the same roads.

Almost unbelievable the state these roads are in.we are all still paying road tax,annual tests e.t.c relative to having a vehicle on the road.

No doubt the poor state of roads is replicated across the country.

They're a disgrace. I'm sure sf said they're going to upgrade all roads to motorway standard if elected.

straight

Say my name wrote: »

Great Ferns woman.

Came from a thatched house I think?

Can't get her snog with Brendan O' Connor out of my head. She'd be good craic I'd say.