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No quitten we're whelan on to chitchat 11

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭Wildsurfer




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Antihistamine cream in the fridge, it's very effective easing the pain & itch of horsefly sting. .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,799 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    All the turf footed here now. Woo-fuppin-hoo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,040 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Nice explanation



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    Passing through Tullamore yesterday evening, some amounts of turf on the move. Seen anything from MF 35s to 241 Mercedes 4x4 pulling trailer loads of it...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭148multi




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,902 ✭✭✭Odelay


    I hear a young mother was killed today at turf. Hit by a machine loading turf or similar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    They'd be better off investigating the opposite, as in the prediction the gulf stream collapse and its freeze to death in baltic weather we will. The wind has been from the North for the past number of years, the prevailing SW wind is history.

    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/extreme-temperatures-becoming-more-common-in-ireland-study-shows-1644947.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,016 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Ya, looking at Windy.com earlier. The wind is coming straight down from the Artic and passing between Greenland and Iceland on the way down. It then heads west in over the country. Crazy stuff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    With the hurricanes just starting this season the South westerlies will be back.

    That said in the ice ages. Glaciers and an ice sheet covered Ireland, the north of England, Scotland and towards Scandinavia while the rest of Europe was free of Glaciers and ice and having summer temperatures into the 20's. The weather conditions and ocean currents at the time kept Ireland to Scandinavia cool and cold whilst the rest of europe to the urals was warm. Ice ages were well over by Roman times yet they still called Ireland, Hibernia - land of winter.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭148multi


    From 6th IPCC report in 2021

    We are still in an ice age, only most people in Ireland don't recognise it.

    In 1816 they had frosts into July that year after mount tambora erupted the year before. There appears to be weather cycles within weather cycles.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,988 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    I put on a winter jacket this morning - there’s a wind would cut you out there.

    Some extinction rebellion account on Twitter this week told me colder weather is compatible with the world warming up. He/she might be right but the ease with which they turned the argument to back up their claims reminded me of some of mental gymnastics religious figures performed over the years to justify anything they did.

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Say my name




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,799 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    It was always the case, though it's easier peddle the tune of the world burning when we set new temp records monthly for over a year. Now though, June was colder than usual so we're heading for an ice age. The truth lies somewhere in between. We should most definitely be doing more to help things along (namely reduce fossil fuel use). I see some academic in the IFJ saying we need to cut beef and dairy by 30% and plant half a billion hectares of trees to get near "carbon neutral". If we wanted to keep milk levels as they are, bye bye sucklers and 32% of the country covered in trees. It's all bollox from the EPA. The headline yesterday was half a million people are at risk from public water supplies. That was the headline. Yet when you read the report, 99.7% of tested water complies with the standards laid out. When you hear the headline, you automatically think agriculture is the problem again as it's being beat into us daily. Yet the report doesn't lay the blame there at all, and says that our drinking water quality is very good or indeed excellent quality. But the headline implies something different.

    By right we should be able to ignore these "reports" as just some head banger trying to make a name for themselves. However, these head bangers are running the asylum and are hell bent on screwing us all over



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,519 ✭✭✭green daries


    It is a religion to these people and a good section are fanatics. And more are nut jobs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,661 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    I’m going to stick my neck out here and say that one thing you say about science is it’s not afraid to change its position when additional data becomes available, that’s what sets it apart from religion.
    initially yes the thinking was as simple as global warming, but in fairness in recent times they have altered that to climate change. It will warm for some, cool for some and become desperately unsettled for others, I think we’re seeing more and more unsettled weather breaking our traditional seasons into a sort of mish mash of continuous dampness interspersed with isolated short extremes of sun, rain and wind

    the climate is changing ive no doubt about that and I’d be shocked if human activity hasn’t a part to play in that change.

    Now, I think the proportion of human contribution is being hyjacked by people who use it as a mechanism to exert control. Control on what we eat, where our food comes from , what taxes we pay and in time where we can travel to. My bet is these people know we can’t slow/srop/reverse changing climate but it’s a useful tool to them to have a reason to scare people into conceding control.

    So when you criticise science for saying “global warming” I think you’re only hearing this term from media and pretend science outlets. Actual climate science talks about “climate change” which from all evidence I see is a definite real issue facing us.

    Like it or not areas of the earth are becoming uninhabitable, with the potential to displace billions of souls, where will these people go ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,016 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    https://www.facebook.com/reel/984995166346503



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,747 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Please think of poor George Lee and the doom mongers in RTE who are praying for a fine spell of warm weather so they can unleash their vast library of reports and articles of climate annihilation upon us all......

    I for one am grateful for our weather....we are blessed in this country....

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭V6400


    It's one thing for the position to change when data comes available but our future weather predictions due to climate change seem to just change depending on what weather extreme we are experiencing at the time.

    In 2022 when we had a heatwave, that was climate change results, that was our future with extreme heat, restricted growth and water shortages.

    In 2023 we had non stop rain and that was climate change results, a new contradictive forecast that our future was going to be far higher rainfall so no water shortages.

    This year cold and grey, again apparently climate change results and what we can expect from the future.

    In reality we have had years like all of the above before but climate change wasnt the big topic so it wasnt spoken about.

    In my opinion we dont have the data needed to know or predict what changes have actually happened or will happen and a lot of people are just milking it for headlines, attention and money.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,707 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Why have people stop talking about the ozone layer.... did it fill up or something!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,040 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    We're restricted, a cow we sold as a cull in March had a suspected lesion on her tonsil. She was killed 19th june, dept say 2 weeks and we'd have the pcr results. I rang navan this morning, 3 times on hold and then put through to a full mailbox. Next time i rang i said I didn't know my pps number. A lad answered and said I can see you've been ringing, there must be a problem as it's been very quiet this morning. He requested a callback for me. Got a callback soon enough. Sample only put on test yesterday, 2 weeks after slaughter , results take 2 days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,747 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    I had similar in January with a factory bullock. Testing will be subject to the result and the TB outlook around you. If it's clear and there is no issue locally you'll be clear. If the cow goes down on the test you will have to do 2 tests. You might be able to get a test straight away as she had left in march.

    Fingers crossed as it's a headwrecker waiting



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭visatorro


    Happened me last year. The pcr came back negative and restriction was lifted. Hopefully you'll be alright



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,040 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    I dont know much about tb but is a lesion on the tonsil rare?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    I think they say stock can and do get them anywhere inside the body.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Yes, self repairing to a certain extent. Main cause of Ozone depletion has been has been banned by most of the world. Still a pretty large hole that moves around over Antarctica and sometimes Australia/ NZ, so you may hear more about it when it gets closer to civilization and less so when not. Not many suffering from skin cancer in Antarctica.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,661 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    it’s repairing because of the science and the removal of cfc gasses as advices by science 🤷🏻



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,773 ✭✭✭Birdnuts


    I agree with alot of this - I think whatever changes to the climate coming down the tracks are now set in stone and will play out over the coming years which is why I think there needs to be a serious discussion on climate "buffering" measures in terms of landuse etc. cos its clear alot of intensive farming models, urban sprawl development etc. is looking very vulnerable based on recent events here and abroad. Some here will be uncomfortable with this but restoring degraded habitats that can buffer us from severe heatwaves, rainfall events etc. makes sense in this scenario. This does not mean some sort of blanket rewilding, but targeted measures in vulnereable areas such as our overgrazed uplands(including excessive wild deer numbers), eroding peatlands, key flood plains etc. There is a alot of state land that meets this criteria if only we had a government that would carry out the urgent reforms needed of the likes of BNM and Coillte. There is also the opportunity for farmers to participate in this, but obviously it needs to be on a voluntary basis with the necessary funding in place. The government claims there is a fund of 3.5 billion euros for such measure, but it will need to be set in stone and far better organized then the likes of Acres etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    If bovine numbers stay as they are, then the methane level in the air is also stable. Reduced bovine numbers reduces methane level relatively quickly. Much quicker than other GHGs. That's why methane/bovines are being targeted. A temporary quick fix solution to the over use of fossil fuels.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭Suckler


    Farmers (through farming representative bodies) better learn that if they aren't part of the solution, they'll be part of the problem. Poor leadership for short term gains have farming where it is today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,518 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭50HX


    From reading the article it seems to be for I'd of trailers at weigh bridge.

    Cue all trailers coming in as 007😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    It speeds the whole process up at intake. Weighbridge, sampling to tipping out. It allows workers at the weighbridge who necessarily wouldn't know the farmer or tractor jockey just to take note of the number and wave on.

    This has been employed in intakes in Wexford must be more than 10 years ago now. It's just getting more official and professional, calling for number plates but they don't seem to be really enforcing that yet by the article.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,671 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    I don't know how common but i was held up waiting for tests because of such a lesion, turned out to be, timber tongue or something like that. I forget exactly, few years ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,040 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Ye they've changed the system now, it's a pcr test. A few years ago we waited 60 days for a sample to culture in the lab. Supposed to be 2 weeks max now



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Maybe there getting ready for blockchain? The first sale of a physical item sold via blockchain, was a load of grain in Australia in 2016. Payment transferred simultaneously as it was weighed and sampled.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭visatorro


    How is urban sprawl going to be addressed, every party is promising to build more new homes if they get elected. Same in the UK. Only thing stopping that is politicians deliver feck all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Ha. No.

    The beauty of grain trading for merchants is they sell the farmer's grain first. Receive payment. Wait four months with interest accruing and then pay the farmer minus interest and penalties and fert and spray cost, plus interest on those. You are tied in then to the particular merchant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,707 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Know of two lads near me who tried to act the maggot with a grain merchant.

    Lad a had two exact tractors and trailers. Weighed tractor and trailer, never emptied and returned a while later with same rig.

    Second lad got seed, fet and spray from merchant a and sold grain to merchant b leaving merchant a without payment. Merchant a moved in the field the following year with his lorry for the grain off the combine.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,967 ✭✭✭older by the day


    I actually cheated the scales a few weeks ago. By mistake

    I took a shot of waste to recycling in box and jeep, I weighed in, and then one of the workers told me that I would have to wait half an hour till a lorry got filled. I threw off the box and went to the coop for 8 bags of calf nuts. Went back threw off the waste and reweighed. Coming back home I was wondering why the bill was so small. With my 200kgs of nuts in the back of the jeep. Ooooops



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,040 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    I'd say big Ian paisley is turning in his grave. The seat held by the Paisley name for over 50 years was lost in the elections



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,707 ✭✭✭kk.man


    If you are talking about the recycling crowd … they were ignorant to an elderly farmer that was beside me in the que not long ago.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,519 ✭✭✭green daries




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,688 ✭✭✭148multi


    Can hear his foot steps, once asked a difficult question on rte years ago, ran from the studio.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,518 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Out of the frying pan and into the fire with Jim Allister.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,016 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    My Grandmother was a quiet women, but every time Paisley appeared on the tv, she would loose it. My Grandfather would get her going with comments like "I think he's a grand fella".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,040 ✭✭✭✭whelan2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,707 ✭✭✭kk.man


    I take all ideologies with a politicians with a grain of salt. He went into government when it suited.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,519 ✭✭✭green daries


    So do the politicians by all accounts 🤔 🙄 😉 😆



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