No quitten we're whelan on to chitchat 11

wrangler

Say my name wrote: »

Do you have to have approved slaughter facilitates by the food safety authority or the dept of ag or ?? if killing poultry for sale?
I've family used to do it big time with turkeys on farm.

Something I saw in the news lately with a farmer killing geese was stopped from killing geese.

Yea, have to get them killed in a licensed slaughter house

greysides

Sometimes it may still occur on-farm....

https://wicklownews.net/2020/12/avian-influenza-h5n8-confirmed-in-a-free-range-turkey-flock-in-county-wicklow/

whelan2

Couriers seem to be under serious pressure at the moment

_Brian

whelan2 wrote: »

Couriers seem to be under serious pressure at the moment

Serious boom in their trade.
Large panel vans are like good dust. Anything good being snapped up quickly.

gozunda

Say my name wrote: »

The flax and linen industry allowed the highest population density of Europe to occur in Ireland.

Yet the narrative is always of the Catholic potato grower.The northern protestant flax growers occupying the highest density of people per acre in Europe which just happened to be on the island of Ireland is never mentioned.
History has one as regressive and the other as progressive.

It's not surprising when one writes the history.

https://twitter.com/Limerick1914/status/1333354185874677761?s=20

https://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/ireland/past/famine/agriculture_pre.html

It's the Malthusian propaganda from the British overlords still prevailing down on a foreign land.

*And this is coming from an Irish prod.

The thing was that the linen industry allowed small holders and cottiers - the means to earn wages from bring employed as weavers and other linen mill jobs and still farm a bit of land or in some cases - no land at all.

Mills and linen production also attractied people into these areas and hence we see the very high densities of population. Thing was these areas generally weathered the famine better than those areas dependent on potato growing for subsistence etc

Say my name

gozunda wrote: »

The thing was that the linen industry allowed small holders and cottiers - the means to earn wages from bring employed as weavers and other linen mill jobs and still farm a bit of land or in some cases - no land at all.

Mills and linen production also attractied people into these areas and hence we see the very high densities of population. Thing was these areas generally weathered the famine better than those areas dependent on potato growing for subsistence etc

The British started imports of cotton to its mills just before (well a good while before) the famine which completely undermined flax production and milling in Ireland.
If you look at that 10 year map back in the thread it had a catastrophic effect in those flax areas. Cootehill for one was finished I believe as a flax trading centre before the famine.
And flax growers needed to eat too and feed their families. Their staple of buying potatoes from other growers for dinner was gone. Which also led to shortages of food in general.
A lot packed up and left the country for U.S., Canada, Australia, Britain, south Africa, Argentina, New Zealand.

Genghis Cant

gozunda wrote: »

The thing was that the linen industry allowed small holders and cottiers - the means to earn wages from bring employed as weavers and other linen mill jobs and still farm a bit of land or in some cases - no land at all.

Mills and linen production also attractied people into these areas and hence we see the very high densities of population. Thing was these areas generally weathered the famine better than those areas dependent on potato growing for subsistence etc

There's a stream that I know locally called the Weavers Stream . It was named after the local cottage industry of the time and used for steeping flax.
That's the official name on the maps. Locally it's called the Wavers drain!

gozunda

Say my name wrote: »

The British started imports of cotton to its mills just before the famine which completely undermined flax production and milling in Ireland.
If you look at that 10 year map back in the thread it had a catastrophic effect in those flax areas. Cootehill for one was finished I believe as a flax trading centre before the famine.
And flax growers needed to eat too and feed their families. Their staple of buying potatoes from other growers for dinner was gone. Which also led to shortages of food in general.
A lot packed up and left the country for U.S., Canada, Australia, Britain, south Africa, Argentina, New Zealand.

True But the decline in most areas was gradual. But during the famine these areas generally did better than elsewhere and many families were employed in linen manufacture and still had some land for potato growing etc

The linen industry was still going strong in many areas of East ulster right up 1900 and beyond. Grand father in law trained as a weaving master in the early 1940s.

gozunda

Genghis Cant wrote: »

There's a stream that I know locally called the Weavers Stream . It was named after the local cottage industry of the time and used for steeping flax.
That's the official name on the maps. Locally it's called the Wavers drain!

I think the smell of wretted flax was something which has not much been missed tbh. The men employed in its removal from the linen ponds had to be hardy- as the work was cold wet and stank to high heaven. Even whole districts would reek for weeks whilst the flax plants were been removed and transported for further processing.

Say my name

gozunda wrote: »

True But the decline in most areas was gradual. But during the famine these areas generally did better than elsewhere and many families were employed in linen manufacture and still had some land for potato growing etc

The linen industry was still going strong in many areas of East ulster right up 1900 and beyond. Grand father in law trained as a weaving master in the early 1940s.

Look at the map. It wasn't that gradual.

Big change in ten years.

Still red around Lough Neagh alright.
But from there to Cavan, Monaghan and probably into leitrim the high density wasn't there as before the famine.

Genghis Cant

Say my name wrote: »

The British started imports of cotton to its mills just before (well a good while before) the famine which completely undermined flax production and milling in Ireland.
If you look at that 10 year map back in the thread it had a catastrophic effect in those flax areas. Cootehill for one was finished I believe as a flax trading centre before the famine.
And flax growers needed to eat too and feed their families. Their staple of buying potatoes from other growers for dinner was gone. Which also led to shortages of food in general.
A lot packed up and left the country for U.S., Canada, Australia, Britain, south Africa, Argentina, New Zealand.

There's a local historian who specialises in the famine era. He has researched and written extensively on it.
He gives talks on the subject. Brilliant speaker on the subject. Dr Ciaran O'Reilly. The last talk I was at he said he was working on mortality rates in children associated with famine times. He was saying that hunger was only part of the problem a huge amount suffered as a result of lack of supervision as families were decimated or out looking for a crust!

gozunda

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gozunda

Say my name wrote: »

Look at the map. It wasn't that gradual.Big change in ten years.

Still red around Lough Neagh alright.
But from there to Cavan, Monaghan and probably into leitrim the high density wasn't there as before the famine.

My comment was referring to decline in linen production which was gradual. Plus not everyone in those areas were employed in linen growing or production. So yes those areas also saw declines in population. But not as much as elsewhere looking at that map.

From the mid 1800s onwards there was certainly deline and especially
in areas far from the major linen production areas That said the linen industry remained a major rural employer in East ulster and elsewhere for nearly a century after the famine - when the big linen Mills finally closed down.

_Brian

_Brian wrote: »

Serious boom in their trade.
Large panel vans are like good dust. Anything good being snapped up quickly.

I rang about a van that came on the market lunchtime yesterday.
He text me to say it was sold, 8 enquiries in two hours nearly all couriers. Had a deposit on it by 5:30 without even a test drive.

MickeyShtyles

_Brian wrote: »

I rang about a van that came on the market lunchtime yesterday.
He text me to say it was sold, 8 enquiries in two hours nearly all couriers. Had a deposit on it by 5:30 without even a test drive.

Have ya tried Van Monster, Brian?

_Brian

MickeyShtyles wrote: »

Have ya tried Van Monster, Brian?

Keep an eye on it ok.

“Budgetary constraints” limits the choice as mostly they just carry smaller vans.

Reggie.

_Brian wrote: »

Keep an eye on it ok.

“Budgetary constraints” limits the choice as mostly they just carry smaller vans.

Try comber commercials

Base price

How does a all in one fusion baler chop silage/haylage. Does it cross chop it or just on the round iykwim.
Reason I'm asking is that we normally make hay off my Uncle's land but this year due to the weather we made haylage. I asked the guy to chop it and add extra layers of plastic. I've been using the bales over the last few days and it's ok handling them with the 50b but I have to wheelbarrow some of it into a shed for the bull and it's like pulling a hawser outta the water.

Genghis Cant

Base price wrote: »

How does a all in one fusion baler chop silage/haylage. Does it cross chop it or just on the round iykwim.
Reason I'm asking is that we normally make hay off my Uncle's land but this year due to the weather we made haylage. I asked the guy to chop it and add extra layers of plastic. I've been using the bales over the last few days and it's ok handling them with the 50b but I have to wheelbarrow some of it into a shed for the bull and it's like pulling a hawser outta the water.

Maybe he didn't chop it at all?

Water John

Don't know about the chop but to get some off a bale, I have it standing and it falls off and work around it. If it's lying flat very hard to get some out of it.

dzer2

Base price wrote: »

How does a all in one fusion baler chop silage/haylage. Does it cross chop it or just on the round iykwim.
Reason I'm asking is that we normally make hay off my Uncle's land but this year due to the weather we made haylage. I asked the guy to chop it and add extra layers of plastic. I've been using the bales over the last few days and it's ok handling them with the 50b but I have to wheelbarrow some of it into a shed for the bull and it's like pulling a hawser outta the water.

He didn't chop it at all, the knives just lift and cut on the diagonal so the layers should peal off. Loads of lads dont pay here until they start feeding. Sorts out the messers real quick.

orm0nd

Base price wrote: »

How does a all in one fusion baler chop silage/haylage. Does it cross chop it or just on the round iykwim.
Reason I'm asking is that we normally make hay off my Uncle's land but this year due to the weather we made haylage. I asked the guy to chop it and add extra layers of plastic. I've been using the bales over the last few days and it's ok handling them with the 50b but I have to wheelbarrow some of it into a shed for the bull and it's like pulling a hawser outta the water.

haylage often doesn't chop well and the fusions unless the knives are kept sharpened they chop poorly at the best of times

best to put the bale on end and work around , also keep taking from the ground up

Reading a very interesting book at the moment called The Psychobiotic Revolution, it features research from UCC but don't worry it's not at all dry! It's (mostly) about the relationship between the microbes that live in our gut and issues we face through live such as depression and various illnesses.

Water John

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Reading a very interesting book at the moment called The Psychobiotic Revolution, it features research from UCC but don't worry it's not at all dry! It's (mostly) about the relationship between the microbes that live in our gut and issues we face through live such as depression and various illnesses.

Didn't know about the book, thanks. There is a product call Alfroex that is available without a prescription that's based on this research.

Say my name

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Reading a very interesting book at the moment called The Psychobiotic Revolution, it features research from UCC but don't worry it's not at all dry! It's (mostly) about the relationship between the microbes that live in our gut and issues we face through live such as depression and various illnesses.

You'll be eating seaweed next.

Water John

Water John wrote: »

Didn't know about the book, thanks. There is a product call Alfroex that is available without a prescription that's based on this research.

You're welcome, it's good to share info. There's also a website of the same name which I haven't yet visited. I'll have to look at Alfroex too.

Say my name wrote: »

You'll be eating seaweed next.

126.5 million Japanese can't be wrong Actually my Dad used to pick and eat two types both carageen and cranach (speelings).

_Brian

Deleted User wrote: »

Reading a very interesting book at the moment called The Psychobiotic Revolution, it features research from UCC but don't worry it's not at all dry! It's (mostly) about the relationship between the microbes that live in our gut and issues we face through live such as depression and various illnesses.

Make our own milk kefir here.
Very high in microbiology and the like.

Base price

The bales are sorta chopped but not. Years ago I used to get bales of haylage chopped at home and it was more like double chop stuff.

Base price

Deleted User wrote: »

You're welcome, it's good to share info. There's also a website of the same name which I haven't yet visited. I'll have to look at Alfroex too.



126.5 million Japanese can't be wrong Actually my Dad used to pick and eat two types both carageen and cranach (speelings).

My late Mother used to always use carageen in soups and stews to thicken them. She used to buy it dried in a shop in Dublin.

Base price

I cannot abide Irish country music but I'm enjoying watching Dolly Parton on the Late Late Show.