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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    Grandfather used to talk about the economic war, and how tough things were and how hard it was to make money...

    On the 2hundred-weight bags, they must have been hardier men back in the day, I find the hundred-weight bags enough ;)

    The grandfather told me he threw a 2cwt bag into a high cribbed butt at the creamery one day, after two lads said he wouldn’t be able to do it... Not sure many would be able to do it now...

    There was a man locally who was renowned for his strength and he reportedly regularly carried two 2cwt bags lashed together up the steps of a granary. Seemingly he could lift the front of a 20 tractor clean off the ground, sadly he died young of a brain aneurysm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,198 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    There was a man locally who was renowned for his strength and he reportedly regularly carried two 2cwt bags lashed together up the steps of a granary. Seemingly he could lift the front of a 20 tractor clean off the ground, sadly he died young of a brain aneurysm.

    My mate was able to raise the rear wheel on a mf 35 off the ground.

    When we used to be training for tug of war, one of the tasks was lifting a 4st weight on the middle of the rope. One end tied to a tree and you pull the other. I think he managed 6st one evening.

    Eventhough he was way stronger than myself, l used to beat him at throwing the sheaf most times.

    I remember we had a long pull one evening and a member of the opposing team started coughing up blood.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Looking for thoughts

    I'm out wintering my weanlings on a roughly 1 acre field. Have to say they are performing well and very healthy looking. The field is getting a little poached but over half the field rises to a hill so always dry ground for them to lie on.

    Just had a thought the other day. Would it be worth it to throw a couple of load of woodchip into the sheltered corner over the summer for next winter. Just to give them a good pad to lie on. Only talking about 8 or 10 weanlings.

    Was thinking of an area of about 15ft by 20ft. Just an area big enough for them to lie on.

    Would it be worth doing?

    If there are stone walls in the dry area you could erect a makeshift hut with deep straw bed for them to lie on. We have two huts erected around cashel meal feeders in a similar sounding area to yours, They are a godsend for early born calves turned out with the cows in Spring. The huts are sectioned off from the cows by an el fence.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Looking for thoughts

    I'm out wintering my weanlings on a roughly 1 acre field. Have to say they are performing well and very healthy looking. The field is getting a little poached but over half the field rises to a hill so always dry ground for them to lie on.

    Just had a thought the other day. Would it be worth it to throw a couple of load of woodchip into the sheltered corner over the summer for next winter. Just to give them a good pad to lie on. Only talking about 8 or 10 weanlings.

    Was thinking of an area of about 15ft by 20ft. Just an area big enough for them to lie on.

    Would it be worth doing?

    Trouble with woodchip is that once it gets wet - it stays wet and will get manky fairly quickly.

    Not the best stuff for a pad ime.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭NcdJd


    orm0nd wrote: »
    My mate was able to raise the rear wheel on a mf 35 off the ground.

    When we used to be training for tug of war, one of the tasks was lifting a 4st weight on the middle of the rope. One end tied to a tree and you pull the other. I think he managed 6st one evening.

    Eventhough he was way stronger than myself, l used to beat him at throwing the sheaf most times.

    I remember we had a long pull one evening and a member of the opposing team started coughing up blood.

    Reminds me we used to lift 4 stone bags of spuds and onto trailers and stacked to the rafters in the shed. In the market we'd have to off load them manually or wheel in 3 at a time on trollies. Was younger then, today I'd be more of the view of minding the back. Anyone locally i know that is or was involved in veg years ago now has a bad back. The spuds and 50kg bags of fertiliser i blame for it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,125 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    Is it too cold for painting? I've 2 coats of emulsion paint to apply before I apply the rubberized paint.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,447 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    If there are stone walls in the dry area you could erect a makeshift hut with deep straw bed for them to lie on. We have two huts erected around cashel meal feeders in a similar sounding area to yours, They are a godsend for early born calves turned out with the cows in Spring. The huts are sectioned off from the cows by an el fence.

    Dont know if that would work here. All hedges I'm afraid, no walls


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Dont know if that would work here. All hedges I'm afraid, no walls

    It could still work, we used left over sheeting from the sheds. The huts are free standing and have been moved a few times. (would qualify for guntering). Its just near the stone walls provides better shelter.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,782 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    NcdJd wrote: »
    Reminds me we used to lift 4 stone bags of spuds and onto trailers and stacked to the rafters in the shed. In the market we'd have to off load them manually or wheel in 3 at a time on trollies. Was younger then, today I'd be more of the view of minding the back. Anyone locally i know that is or was involved in veg years ago now has a bad back. The spuds and 50kg bags of fertiliser i blame for it.

    I remember my father carrying 2 bales of hay on his back across 3 wet fields in the middle of winter. Madness, when you think about it. No wonder he ended up with 3 hip operations.
    There was a lot of hard physical work done back then.
    I dug the holes for a shed by hand recently and a young relative told me I was mad. :rolleyes:

    'When I was a boy we were serfs, slave minded. Anyone who came along and lifted us out of that belittling, I looked on them as Gods.' - Dan Breen



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,447 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    It could still work, we used left over sheeting from the sheds. The huts are free standing and have been moved a few times. (would qualify for guntering). Its just near the stone walls provides better shelter.

    I know what you mean now. Be a big hut at 15ft x 20ft tho


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,664 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Looking for thoughts

    I'm out wintering my weanlings on a roughly 1 acre field. Have to say they are performing well and very healthy looking. The field is getting a little poached but over half the field rises to a hill so always dry ground for them to lie on.

    Just had a thought the other day. Would it be worth it to throw a couple of load of woodchip into the sheltered corner over the summer for next winter. Just to give them a good pad to lie on. Only talking about 8 or 10 weanlings.

    Was thinking of an area of about 15ft by 20ft. Just an area big enough for them to lie on.

    Would it be worth doing?
    Put down drainage pipes first. Winters aren’t getting any drier around here anyway.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,447 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    I remember my father carrying 2 bales of hay on his back across 3 wet fields in the middle of winter. Madness, when you think about it. No wonder he ended up with 3 hip operations.
    There was a lot of hard physical work done back then.
    I dug the holes for a shed by hand recently and a young relative told me I was mad. :rolleyes:
    holes do be too big if dug by digger tho


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭Dinzee Conlee


    Reggie. wrote: »
    I know what you mean now. Be a big hut at 15ft x 20ft tho

    We used to have something similar for sheep - now, for sheep was lower than you’d need for calves...

    But it was basically a very small open front shed - with the open front almost up against the hedge, for shelter... put in a sheltery dry spot the lambs would find it quick enough...

    Ours was only a few ‘panels’ of timber and galvanise, kinda tied to a few stakes - it wasn’t pretty, but it did the job ok... :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,146 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    If there are stone walls in the dry area you could erect a makeshift hut with deep straw bed for them to lie on. We have two huts erected around cashel meal feeders in a similar sounding area to yours, They are a godsend for early born calves turned out with the cows in Spring. The huts are sectioned off from the cows by an el fence.

    Any sheds etc where they have the option of going into from a field can get very mucky and become a haven for disease, I used to try to have similar shelters for lambs and they were better off under the ditches


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,521 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    My father left at the end of the 50's, headed for Canada, Montreal. Knew no one, had 1 small suitcase, $100 in his pocket, no job lined up, no digs. Headed then for New York, got married. Worked three years straight, no day off, no sick day. Came home in '62 on a passenger liner with a wife, a child, and money enough to buy a farm. He was some man.

    A granduncle of mine went to Canada in the 20's. I think he was a few years there and then came home.
    I think he was actually lucky to make it back. My father who knew him told he blamed the climate for leaving Canada.
    I'd say there was a lot more than that though.
    Another neighbour (RC) who went out with him came back sooner.
    He had tales of people throwing themselves off buildings and the Niagara falls so it must have been depression era over there.

    I've other relations with the maiden family name of the place here who emigrated way before that to Canada/U.S.
    One of the descendants was baptized with the townsland as their second name even though it would have been 1800's emigration. The family just kept the history of where they came from in Ireland going all that time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,521 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Now Roosterman..

    You can get icecream in Dunkirk, Cherbourg and Bilbao.

    https://twitter.com/Rosslareuroport/status/1344260487928754176?s=20

    Edit: I'm not sure what's going on with the different sailing time lengths from Stena Line and Brittany ferries but how and ever.
    The Danes say it'll be 24 hours so it'll be 24hrs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,569 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Lovely morning here.

    Brought girls to town for a spin in the new kayaks, Santa did well.

    https://ibb.co/y4LsWRt


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    A granduncle of mine went to Canada in the 20's. I think he was a few years there and then came home.
    I think he was actually lucky to make it back. My father who knew him told he blamed the climate for leaving Canada.
    I'd say there was a lot more than that though.
    Another neighbour (RC) who went out with him came back sooner.
    He had tales of people throwing themselves off buildings and the Niagara falls so it must have been depression era over there.

    I've other relations with the maiden family name of the place here who emigrated way before that to Canada/U.S.
    One of the descendants was baptized with the townsland as their second name even though it would have been 1800's emigration. The family just kept the history of where they came from in Ireland going all that time.

    I remember when I was little, when there was talk of cold weather. Dad used to say until the sea freezes here people won't know what cold is. Everything is relative! He applied for a job with the US army once, to go to Alaska or northern Canada I can't remember which, building radar stations. He failed the medical with his knee, but landed a good job as a bartender at a sports/social club in New York instead. There used to be these private invite only parties there, plenty of famous folk of the day used to attend and the tips would be massive. One day Dad was in the office with Joe the manager, "I'm not complaining Joe, but why am I getting more of the private parties than the other bartenders?", "I don't hear what happened on the street the next day when you're working them".

    Silence is golden :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    Grandfather used to talk about the economic war, and how tough things were and how hard it was to make money...

    On the 2hundred-weight bags, they must have been hardier men back in the day, I find the hundred-weight bags enough ;)

    The grandfather told me he threw a 2cwt bag into a high cribbed butt at the creamery one day, after two lads said he wouldn’t be able to do it... Not sure many would be able to do it now...

    How times have changed, was in the creamery lately and gave the lads a hand stacking a few 40kg bags of coal, the two boys were a bit surprised i was throwing them up away and they at two men to a bag abd 40kg is still a nice bit under 1CWT even.

    Better living everyone



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,521 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    How times have changed, was in the creamery lately and gave the lads a hand stacking a few 40kg bags of coal, the two boys were a bit surprised i was throwing them up away and they at two men to a bag abd 40kg is still a nice bit under 1CWT even.

    The thing is they've been on a co-op health and safety course instructing them how to lift those bags.
    Those boyos will be retiring on a full co-op pension and not a hip or knee replacement between them.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,521 ✭✭✭✭Say my name



    Silence is golden :D

    Over rated.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,122 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    The thing is they've been on a co-op health and safety course instructing them how to lift those bags.
    Those boyos will be retiring on a full co-op pension and not a hip or knee replacement between them.

    Yeah, a safety officer I knew used to say "if you can't kick it, don't lift it"


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,122 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    Looks like school reopening will be pushed to Monday 11th. Martin due to speak on the 6 news


  • Registered Users Posts: 29,530 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Looks like school reopening will be pushed to Monday 11th. Martin due to speak on the 6 news

    I think that's a good idea


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    Back into lockdown and not even one daycent DIY middle isle even in Aldi/Lidl, all the stuff I don't need that I can't buy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,521 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    whelan2 wrote: »
    I think that's a good idea

    I reckon the teachers unions will be angling for vaccinations for themselves before going back to work.
    It could be a bit further out than the 11th.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭Mac Taylor


    George Lee on now......he’d put anyone over the edge.....:mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    I reckon the teachers unions will be angling for vaccinations for themselves before going back to work.
    It could be a bit further out than the 11th.

    Were supposed to be getting some sort of a test Monday morning in our cars and any reading thats not negative youll be sent off for an HSE test. I know it wouldnt be feasible with schools but its what were doing anyway.

    Better living everyone



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    Mac Taylor wrote: »
    George Lee on now......he’d put anyone over the edge.....:mad:

    He's turned into an awful dose. He was on about the numbers being so much higher than ever predicted. Leo was on TV before Christmas saying they were estimating 2k cases/day by NYE.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 29,530 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Feel sorry for the leaving cert students, so much uncertainty again


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