No quitten we're whelan on to chitchat 11

Lime Tree Farm

ryan steps down as green party leader

Lime Tree Farm

Should have said 'leaves a sinking ship'

Packrat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122273244#Comment_122273244

To leave room for some bigger cnut. Back to sleep now for Mr cabbage head on a fine fat pension whilst the damage and harm he's done to our country will be still evident long after he's been composted.

cap.in.hand.

Still staying on as a minister though.

Tonynewholland

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122273319#Comment_122273319

I’ve never seen him look so happy as last night on the news out in Brussels.

roosterman71

Catherine Martin probably next in line for the throne. She'd be no better than Eamon

Packrat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122273375#Comment_122273375

I know.

The worst thing is that his replacement may be less (publicly) religious about it and more cunning, which could cause even more harm in the long term.

mr.stonewall

They are now being politically irrelevant in government now, FG and FF hold all the aces as to when they call the GE. The new leader will have very little clout as this the tail end of the political cycle and the countdown to the election is on. If the new leader tries to flex their muscles the other two parties will say thats fine and Simon will trot off the the Aras promptly. The new leader will want time to have a honeymoon party. The way they will be treated is like a child, sit down there and dont make any noise.

Ryan's move yesterday was the last sting of a dying wasp, dirty and a bould move. The next government will have the problem of picking up all the broken pieces after this shower.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122273439#Comment_122273439

If the Greens didn't exist FF and FG would still have been as hard on farmers.

As for the next leader, likely Catherine Martin, from the religious fanatic type wing of the party.

Packrat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122273478#Comment_122273478

Hopefully. She's totally incompetent and will get nothing done even if they're back in gov, which they won't be.

mr.stonewall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122273478#Comment_122273478

The green agenda in euro is getting toned down big time and this will come back to governments and anf countries. The result of elections 10 days ago in Europe and Ireland has changed political political landscape. There is quiet a number of parliament elections to take place this year, France France are having a snap one, horse in ourselves, Austria and a few others. I read some where that 70% of democracies are due elections this year

mr.stonewall

Trying to manage that group will be interesting that she will have little time to manage indoctrination. Look at her track record on RTE, she could be the best thing to happen

kollegeknight

was out for a walk with my 9yo today in a local amenity park- there was a lad with a skid steer and a flair mower on the front- so we waited til he saw us and stopped and we kept walking. He then turned and a stone flew and gave me an awful belt in the leg. Nice bruise there now- it must have been about The size of an €2 coin.
only for the 9yo being there- I’d have stopped him and said something. But she is shakey at the best of times.

kollegeknight

visited part of the old coal mine the FIL worked in. Some machine there-850tonne in weight.

Birdnuts

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122273265#Comment_122273265

Yep - he has now wrecked the party twice, some achievement🙄

Birdnuts

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122273615#Comment_122273615

Issues related to the environment won't magically disappear either - VDL will still likely need support from the Socialists, Greens(who did better than expected despite losses) and others and there will be a price paid for that. She could tap the increase in the far right vote but that is splintered across a number of groups with some having more fascist tendencies then others including the likes of Putins pal Orban who simply wants to bring down the EU from within.

enricoh

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122273478#Comment_122273478

The greens are a useful scapegoat for the 2 main parties. Simon Harris is looking at postponing the next hike in petrol and diesel and getting tougher on refugee industry, must be election time!

Paddy will vote them back in with e200 off the ESB and it'll be back to business as usual of squeezing more out of the squeezed middle !

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/simon-harris-says-rise-in-price-of-petrol-and-diesel-in-august-under-review/a1081995173.html

Lime Tree Farm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122274133#Comment_122274133

She's being getting besties with Meloni lately.

Base price

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122273244#Comment_122273244

I hope never to hear his voice on the radio or see him on TV again - I used to switch channels as my blood pressure started to boil at the sound of his voice/seeing him. I reckon he has a cosy job lined up for himself in Brussels and may become an even bigger threat to rural Ireland.

Birdnuts

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122274590#Comment_122274590

She needs the support of all the EU leaders to get the gig - Meloni is canny but neither is she universally popular with other EU leaders as evidenced by that recent spat with Macron, so VDL will have to thread warily. There is also apparently an EU report on Press Freedom in Italy that is due to come out in coming weeks which doesn't paint a very pretty picture of the far right government there. This could also make things interesting cos it could be a re -run of the showdown between Polands previous far right government and the Commission on such matters

Lime Tree Farm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122275525#Comment_122275525

Same, mute the sound. What struck me on the 1o:clock how dark he looked around the mouth, could be in line for a navy blue.

50HX

Iceland, Belgium, Singapore, Ireland, talks of Sunak, all with PM's resigining, at a lower level you have Eamon Ryan but still counted as part of the operating government.

Do all these know something the rest of us don't & are jumping ship

Say my name

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122276842#Comment_122276842

All have Russian and Israeli assassins ready to take them out for the kicks..

Have no idea probably just coincidence.

It's such an uncertain time though you'd nearly want your own private security force just to enter politics anywhere in the world.

Tileman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122276842#Comment_122276842

politics is a Ses’s pit these days who would blame them.

Siamsa Sessions

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122276965#Comment_122276965

I'm assuming all have plenty openings in the business world given the political connections they've built up over the years.

Given the proximity of multinationals and their lobbyists to Govt these days, any politician who knows the system will have no problem getting a gig.

Castlekeeper

Now that Eamon is retiring, I wonder who will be the next fall guy for the woes of the country? Will "the greens" suffice or is a caricature required?

He always seemed a genuine man to me, albeit with polarising communication style and a tendency to put his foot in his mouth. He did expose an ugly side of society by attracting (often baseless) pile-ons, a modern expression for what I would think is a primitive tendency, Ian Paisley might have been more popular at times!

I'm not sure what kind of character he is to work with, he could be a decent man, but in politics it wouldn't surprise me if I was told any such person was a toxic narcissist either.

Siamsa Sessions

Not sure if many of ye use the AgriSnap app but it seems the EC is changing its opinion on geo-tagged photos as evidence/proof in environmental schemes:

https://www.independent.ie/farming/news/eu-proposes-to-row-back-on-geo-tagged-photo-requirements/a77742598.html

"It said that the priority should no longer be given to geo-tagged photos in comparison to other data with at least equivalent value for defining a monitorable eligibility condition"

God knows what they mean by 'other data with at least equivalent value'

Grueller

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122277785#Comment_122277785

Satellite imagery?

Say my name

You're covering yourself in all bases there Castle.

Pippa Hackett looks like she'll take the party leader job.

The green agenda has not done the country any good. It was reckless to go that route. We've houses now completely indebted to electricity price on home heating. An electricity price that is the dearest in the EU. Every dairy farmer knows this as their bills quadrupled in cost. A diesel price that has carbon tax added on. That heavy plant and machinery users have no alternative but to pay. Where it goes to nobody knows probably a disrupter awareness company in some board room. We've engos probably do get that money and to ridicule livestock farmer constantly on media.

We'd a bill put through the EU just on his retirement which now stipulates 20% of your farm or 100% depending on location be left to nature. That's farmers out of business or only the largest surviving. That opens the way for industry to buy cheap land just for nature credits or greenwash kudos. And this Irish green party was instrumental in getting the rest of the EU to align.

On the tb front we've a 25% increase in reactors due solely to the green party wanting control of badgers moved to the Office of Public Works under Malcom Noonan than the dept. This is from the change in control to now be vaccination instead of culling and to slow the dept of ags decision making processes down on badger control. Farmers haven't changed anything from other years. But badger control and dept changes have occurred.

The man himself was famous for that picture of him asleep in the temporary Dail. Then dancing barefoot like a loon through the street and then the famous outburst of how we can grow our greens on our South facing window box to feed ourselves when we starve from the nuclear war with Russia.

But yea. Eamon Ryan and the green ideology of we'll work in the US multinational with those data centres and drive our electric car or take the bus or bike to work. While we live in our electric heat pump house on inflated wages. So all is well with world.

Out of touch with reality would describe the party and making decisions that make the country worse as a whole. A good spread of the party faithful would be either high paid city jobs or subsidence grow your own domesday preppers who expect everyone to live off grid as they would and complain of all facets of modern life. Both shouldn't be in charge of a shoebox let alone a country.

mr.stonewall

Roddy has thrown his has into the ring. It will be interesting to see how Pippa goes as she will also have to throw her hat into the upcoming bye election in laois Offaly if there is not a GE before that.

The sooner a GE comes the better as it will finally put some manners on the Greens. Untangling the mess created is what's important. The green agenda will not fully go, and working with it will be important but the past 5 years has done the equivalent of driving 20 years of resentment to it. Personally I feel it will be pace of change will stall and work with what's there will be the direction for a while

On the NRL, it won't the last we hear of it and all it will take is one shock to global food supply to put manners on it. On the Austrian eco minister, up roar in that collation and they are going to the polls anyway in September, whether we see an early election there will be interesting