Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

Boggles

Community transmission will always be the minority figure with any sort of semi functioning contact tracing system in place.

You may not find where the index case picked it up from, but it's "easy" find the 3 family members that index case infected.

Turtwig

Stheno wrote: »

Yep. Thats what Paul Reid said its been since the beginning of October

I thought the same as you and have decided that the usual term of "its rampant in the community" must be related to all the clusters or something else

Iirc it's considered widespread uncontrolled transmission when the positivity rate is above 5%. Not all cases are being caught. Of those that are, 1 in 4, are community transmission. That could legitimately be considered rampant.

manniot2

Leo just confirmed what I said on here a few days ago - hospitals having their quietest October ever. Of course i was pillared for saying it here.

Stheno

Turtwig wrote: »

Iirc it's considered widespread uncontrolled transmission when the positivity rate is above 5%. Not all cases are being caught. Of those that are, 1 in 4, are community transmission. That could legitimately be considered rampant.

Ah I thought the 5% was related to the positivity rate, I.e the WHO consider more than 5% positivity to be not under control?

I was comparing it to when community transmission was 60+% back in March/April

Fr_Dougal

manniot2 wrote: »

Leo just confirmed what I said on here a few days ago - hospitals having their quietest October ever. Of course i was pillared for saying it here.

They’re quiet because a lot of procedures have been cancelled, patients are not getting called for scans etc.

wadacrack

manniot2 wrote: »

Leo just confirmed what I said on here a few days ago - hospitals having their quietest October ever. Of course i was pillared for saying it here.

Theirs a shortage of staff due to isolated from outbreaks and other reasons. I cant imagine how bad it will be if transmission increases

caveat emptor

caveat emptor wrote: »

Yeah sad reality is that there are people who don't agree with the 'advice' or don't want to follow it for whatever reason.

I learned recently that in Germany the quarantine is managed by the border authority / federal police. If found to be in breach 25,000 euro fine.

That seems excessive but how much is this lockdown costing?

Widdensushi wrote: »

A quick Google and I can't find it, link please

Sure, Don't have the link to hand. Here's the screenshot. I'll add it when I find it as a courtesy. Below from last night's discussion on this.

EDIT: Link

https://www.bundesgesundheitsministerium.de/fileadmin/Dateien/3_Downloads/C/Coronavirus/Infoblatt/NEU_Anlage_1_BMG_Infoblatt_fuer_Einreisende_EN.pdf

Ger Roe

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

There quiet because a lot of procedures have been cancelled, patients are not getting called for scans etc.

Not just not getting called, long standing appointments are being postponed until well into next year, or sometimes no new date given at all. I have had three long standing hospital appointments cancelled for the last quarter of this year.

I started to get the 'don't turn up' letters just before the HSE plan for keeping services open, was revealed. I thought it was very ironic.

I have been messed about so much that I would need a secretary service to keep track of appointment changes, and I am sure I am not the only one. Despite the confusion that frequent changing of appointment dates is causing, I have not been asked to confirm receipt of the change letters and would bet that there will be a high number of non appearances for future appointments, because of the confusion being caused and the lack of effort to communicate effectively with patients, to ensure that they understand what is happening.

I think the appointment changing lark is so widespread at this stage that each letter should be followed up with a phone call to the patient to make sure that they are aware of the new arrangements so that they can actually turn up.

Or is that someone else's problem, for another time?

Stheno

The tone of Tony's tweets is off putting - "everyone stay home"

https://twitter.com/CMOIreland/status/1320377573059284995?s=19

Really high handed imo

political analyst

political analyst wrote: »

I have not asked it "multiple times".

Why couldn't the doctor have certified the cause of death immediately?

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/death/sudden_or_unexplained_death/postmortems.html

Required in our case because of unexpected death. While her colleagues knew she had a stroke from the symptoms that she displayed right before she collapsed, the doctor didn't want to certify the cause of death as she wasn't a typical candidate for a stroke.

Jim_Hodge

Stheno wrote: »

The tone of Tony's tweets is off putting - "everyone stay home"

https://twitter.com/CMOIreland/status/1320377573059284995?s=19

Really high handed imo

Just sounds like somebody trying to be perfectly clear, to me.

A case of reading something in a tone it wasn't written in??

Kh1993

Stheno wrote: »

The tone of Tony's tweets is off putting - "everyone stay home"

https://twitter.com/CMOIreland/status/1320377573059284995?s=19

Really high handed imo

In caps too. Like we’re all imbeciles incapable of understanding him.

It’s getting to the point where he’s going way above his remit here. A celebrity CMO, bizarre. Is he tweeting this because there’s actually been good news today?

redarmy

No further deaths.

1,025 new confirmed cases.

paulie21

1025 cases no deaths

Gael23

1025 cases and ICU up one

alentejo

Backlog effect today

Goldrickssan

redarmy wrote: »

No further deaths.

1,025 new confirmed cases.

Pretty good considering there was a few hundred backlog to clear

SleetAndSnow

alentejo wrote: »

Backlog effect today

Hopefully, but this can't be confirmed until we get swab numbers

prunudo

Given the discrepancy between swabs and cases the last couple days, todays number aren't overly concerning.
Unless today's swab count was particularly high but haven't seen that reported.

ACitizenErased

If the backlog is indeed included today then that insinuates ~700 positive swabs today

Fr_Dougal

redarmy wrote: »

No further deaths.

1,025 new confirmed cases.

Wasn’t there something about not having full testing capacity this weekend due to the bank holiday and understaffing?

ACitizenErased

255 cases are in Dublin, 147 in Cork, 77 in Galway, 54 in Kildare, 53 in Donegal and the remaining 439 cases are spread across 21 counties

ACitizenErased

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Wasn’t there something about not having full testing capacity this weekend due to the bank holiday and understaffing?

Only affects 600 tests, which were outsourced. So no.

AdamD

Stheno wrote: »

The tone of Tony's tweets is off putting - "everyone stay home"

https://twitter.com/CMOIreland/status/1320377573059284995?s=19

Really high handed imo

Power trip stuff. As if he has the authority to tell people what they can and cannot do.

CIARAN_BOYLE

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Wasn’t there something about not having full testing capacity this weekend due to the bank holiday and understaffing?

Yeah but the nvrl does a minority only. One of the other labs should be able to step up. We will see when we get swab data.

bb1234567

ACitizenErased wrote: »

255 cases are in Dublin, 147 in Cork, 77 in Galway, 54 in Kildare, 53 in Donegal and the remaining 439 cases are spread across 21 counties

Dublin still not seeing any major drop off really is it

Eod100

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1320419873021956096?s=19

MerlinSouthDub

ACitizenErased wrote: »

If the backlog is indeed included today then that insinuates ~700 positive swabs today

Well hopefully but I wouldn't read anything into today's data until we see the swab numbers

is_that_so

AdamD wrote: »

Power trip stuff. As if he has the authority to tell people what they can and cannot do.

Seems more like people looking to be offended by him. He's just repeating what we all should know and be doing.

Gael23

Stheno wrote: »

The tone of Tony's tweets is off putting - "everyone stay home"

https://twitter.com/CMOIreland/status/1320377573059284995?s=19

Really high handed imo

Is that not crossing a line of what’s in his remit?

Very close to it if not.

prunudo

bb1234567 wrote: »

Dublin still not seeing any major drop off really is it

Hard to know, could back logged cases be playing their part in the up and down nature of counties daily numbers.

Jimson

1000 cases in a country with a population of 4,900,000.

Makes great sense to shut down the country. Open it backup. Media scaremongering has to stop. If your

Ger Roe

AdamD wrote: »

Power trip stuff. As if he has the authority to tell people what they can and cannot do.

He's not saying anything that the government hasn't told people to do.

Cue the predictable responses that nobody can tell anybody what to do :cool:

CIARAN_BOYLE

Gael23 wrote: »

Is that not crossing a line of what’s in his remit?

Very close to it if not.

Those are the rules of level 5.

Reminding people of that would be within his remit.

SEPT 23 1989

Dublin stuck at the mid 200's for weeks

ACitizenErased

Stheno wrote: »

The tone of Tony's tweets is off putting - "everyone stay home"

https://twitter.com/CMOIreland/status/1320377573059284995?s=19

Really high handed imo

Why's he being so aggressive? What a weird tweet

brookers

AdamD wrote: »

Power trip stuff. As if he has the authority to tell people what they can and cannot do.

A Janey, it is his job, what should he do, tell everybody go on have the craic, dont give a hoot about anybody but yourself, lets keep business closed for good, let covid rip through the country, sure who gives a monkeys, let the teachers get sick and the civil servant and the shop keeper and the bread man, sure it is all a bit of fun, go on have the laugh, sure it is all great fun. We all love home schooling and sure if the nurses and carers get sick, sure they be all grand. People wont mind their appointment cancelled. Who wants to look at a Gaa match or a rugby match anyways, empty stadiums, great craic. Lets all have the craic, That old virus, sure it is just a bit of a cold.

Polar101

Jimson wrote: »

Media scaremongering has to stop. If your

Did he just get silenced?

AlphaDelta1

Dublin is a disaster zone with those numbers. How long have they been in at least level 3 now with no noticeable decline.

manniot2

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Dublin stuck at the mid 200's for weeks

Yep and what harm, hospitals very quiet.

BringBackMick

I was walking down the street today and some elderly woman with a mask almost jumped into a bush when i walked past, almost on the road.

The fear of god being peddled by the media will have us ruined for years.

statesaver

AlphaDelta1 wrote: »

Dublin is a disaster zone with those numbers. How long have they been in at least level 3 now with no noticeable decline.

Hardly a disaster zone now is it, out of a population of over a million people.

Polar101

Polar101 wrote: »

Did he just get silenced?

Mammy seen what he was posting a gave them a slap on the back of the head?

Seriously more likely hit the wrong key on the phone and posted.

BorneTobyWilde

Jimson wrote: »

1000 cases in a country with a population of 4,900,000.

Makes great sense to shut down the country. Open it backup. Media scaremongering has to stop. If your

But that must be 15,000 cases in last 15 days, and they are the ones we know about.

AlphaDelta1

BringBackMick wrote: »

I was walking down the street today and some elderly woman with a mask almost jumped into a bush when i walked past, almost on the road.

The fear of god being peddled by the media will have us ruined for years.

What fear? Wear a mask, wash your hands and keep your distance. It's very simple.

prunudo

AlphaDelta1 wrote: »

Dublin is a disaster zone with those numbers. How long have they been in at least level 3 now with no noticeable decline.

Considering its population, its size and density its far from a disaster.

xhomelezz

Polar101 wrote: »

Did he just get silenced?

Just forgot in the middle, what he was about to say. Pretty sure I won't miss the rest of it.

is_that_so

AlphaDelta1 wrote: »

What fear? Wear a mask, wash your hands and keep your distance. It's very simple.

Poster was on the street, no masks required there.

BringBackMick

AlphaDelta1 wrote: »

What fear? Wear a mask, wash your hands and keep your distance. It's very simple.

Because it is a complete overreaction, just like by this government.

She isn't going to catch covid walking by me on the street.

Blondini

BringBackMick wrote: »

I was walking down the street today and some elderly woman with a mask almost jumped into a bush when i walked past, almost on the road.

The fear of god being peddled by the media will have us ruined for years.

Yeah, what a cowardly old woman. Hope you told her not to be afraid.