Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

Loafing Oaf

perrito caliente wrote: »

Can you still eat/drink outside?

In your own back garden, yes if you fancy it. At a table in front of a restaurant, not so much...

Richard Hillman

We lost everything because Micheal Martin has a 2 inch dick and is afraid of Mary Lou McDonald

tobefrank321

Reid has to resign or be sacked from the HSE. Its been a clusterf*ck from the get-go.
What do you have to do to be sacked in the public sector or from the HSE?

MrMusician18

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Welcome to The Iron Curtain for the next 6 weeks or longer, it won't be easy.

I thought it was the twitching curtain?

Real Donald Trump

Richard Hillman wrote: »

We lost everything because Micheal Martin has a 2 inch dick and is afraid of Mary Lou McDonald

Doubt he even has one.

WoollyRedHat

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Never going to happen. The issue is not with the CEO it is with the fiefdoms and Unions within the HSE and I include consultants in that too.

It would be a start. They need to start cutting from the top. The ineptitude and mismanagement is a disgrace and if it doesn't happen soon, it never will. Ideally the whole shambles of the HSE needs to be scorched, start again, we will always be on the precipice of disaster if we continue with this setup. Total reform needed. This is the last chance saloon, if we don't get our act together and make rapid changes and cut off the head of the serpent we will continue to suffer. If Stephen Donnelly or the government aren't willing to do their part, they should step aside, they cannot continue to demand compliance while refusing to address the elephant in the country.

bb1234567

0.15% of CZ's population tested positive today. Surely the record for highest case total per capita of any country in the world in the world since March

majcos

FrogmanBegins wrote: »

I think regards to antibodies they're supposed to fade after a while. It means the covid is fully gone from your system and t cells attack any future infection. I'm open to correction on this though

Depends on the disease. First come IgM antibodies which can last a few weeks. If test positive for IgM antibodies, infection is active or quite recent. Then come IgG antibodies which can last long term months to years to an entire lifetime. It is relatively easy to measure antibodies so testing for this is cheaper and more available. In some diseases, the antibody levels drop but that does not mean all immunity is gone. The upstream components of the immune system that have been triggered by the first infection are still there but dormant.

T cell immunity consists of helper cells that help B cells to produce antibodies and cytotoxic cells that directly kill infected cells. When they are first triggered, they take a while to kick in. However, once triggered, memory cells can then lie dormant but react faster and stronger if the same attacker or virus comes along. If virus attacks again, antibodies are produced more quickly and perhaps at higher levels and infected cells are mopped up more rapidly. These cells are more difficult to measure so testing is not done routinely for these type of cells.

For some diseases, even if antibodies are gone, memory T cells still exist that can react to provide some immunity to a second infection but it is technically harder to measure and quantify this type of immunity than it is to measure antibody levels.

440Hertz

MrMusician18 wrote: »

I thought it was the twitching curtain?

Surely it's one of those heavy blue anti infection curtains they have in hospital wards?

majcos

perrito caliente wrote: »

Can you still eat/drink outside?

You must be living somewhere caliente. It’s been raining for the last 48 hours where I am. My sandwich would be very soggy if I tried to eat it outdoors.

Paddygreen

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

In your own back garden, yes if you fancy it. At a table in front of a restaurant, not so much...

Personally I think people should be restricted to one hour in their back gardens per day. There is just too much temptation to do old normal stuff like spark up the bbq and invite people over. People who will inevitably arrive with bags of Galahad or some other intoxicating brew. Fun + Covid19 = Death

majcos

440Hertz wrote: »

Surely it's one of those heavy blue anti infection curtains they have in hospital wards?

The magical soundproof ones that give complete privacy and confidentiality when pulled around a patient in a six bedded room?

WoollyRedHat

World-first coronavirus test can detect superspreaders, infectious rate

https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/health/worldfirst-coronavirus-test-can-detect-superspreaders-infectious-rate/news-story/297a3b4b233fd482523726028946efba

Also CDC study suggests Covid-19 can be passed in brief interactions:

Previously, the CDC described a close contact as someone who spent 15 minutes or more within six feet of someone who was infectious. Now, the agency says it’s someone who spent a cumulative 15 minutes or more within six feet of someone who was infectious over 24 hours, even if the time isn’t consecutive, according to an agency spokesperson.


https://www.statnews.com/2020/10/21/cumulative-time-covid-19-spread/

I always thought this to be the case, if you have repeated interactions with someone shedding virus, shouldn't matter if it is less than 15 minutes, if it is culminatuve. I think they need to drop this whole 'if you're 2m away from people you don't need to wear a mask' on its head, reiterate the importance of wearing mask in indoor spaces or crowded areas, 2M is simply not enough without it.

ETA: added second link and removed duplicate.

spookwoman

majcos wrote: »

The magical soundproof ones that give complete privacy and confidentiality when pulled around a patient in a six bedded room?

Well to be honest there is nothing in this world that can muffle or silence the hospital fart.

speckle

majcos wrote: »

The magical soundproof ones that give complete privacy and confidentiality when pulled around a patient in a six bedded room?

That gave me a great giggle before bed. nite all
May the sun shine tomorrow.

perrito caliente

majcos wrote: »

You must be living somewhere caliente. It’s been raining for the last 48 hours where I am. My sandwich would be very soggy if I tried to eat it outdoors.

Beautiful day down south!

marno21

majcos wrote: »

HSE operations report 21/10

As of 8pm, 309 confirmed cases in hospitals.
35 in ICU with 22 of those ventilated
0 ICU deaths last 24 hours
35 available beds

15 down on this morning. Any reduction is helpful in maintaining capacity

Queried

How common are muscle aches on their own as a symptom of covid?

MOR316

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Never going to happen. The issue is not with the CEO it is with the fiefdoms and Unions within the HSE and I include consultants in that too.

I am flabbergasted he even has a job that high in the first place

D.Q

Paddygreen wrote: »

Personally I think people should be restricted to one hour in their back gardens per day. There is just too much temptation to do old normal stuff like spark up the bbq and invite people over. People who will inevitably arrive with bags of Galahad or some other intoxicating brew. Fun + Covid19 = Death

100% agree.

There needs to be a help line similar to the welfare fraud line to report these people.

The fact is we need to be a zero covid Ireland by Christmas. If that means fining, or even locking up these Covidiots, then so be it. Social distancing has gone out the window.

s1ippy

https://twitter.com/Ireunderworld/status/1319042340699463686?s=20

https://twitter.com/Trishee14/status/1317459982942638080?s=20

https://twitter.com/BarryWhyte85/status/1319049848612622336?s=20

Having the craic with the branch covidians.

Real Donald Trump

^^^ Mr Tony won't be happy

440Hertz

Fact-check: first video is tonight. The previous one was posted 17 Oct.

s1ippy

s1ippy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Ireunderworld/status/1319042340699463686?s=20

https://twitter.com/Trishee14/status/1317459982942638080?s=20

https://twitter.com/BarryWhyte85/status/1319049848612622336?s=20

Having the craic with the branch covidians.

These saps don't realize the longer this goes on the more the government has to borrow, it will be their generation paying for it.

440Hertz

They’re in “last hurrah” mode. The test of this will be in the days from now on. If there are still scenes like that, we’ve a problem.

I wonder if we’ll see the pro-virus, anti reality brigade out protesting on Saturday and whether the Gardai will actually do anything if they do?

Polar101

He says he was in the city (Dublin, I assume, since he's posting about Grafton Street) at 6:30pm and it was busy. So was I, and I thought it was really quiet - except for restaurants/pubs which were full. Full as in 15 people outdoors.

I'm just saying if you record a video at what is arguably one of the busiest spots in the country, there's going to be people (and buskers). If they can record a similar video from tomorrow on, then there's some work available for the Gardai.

Deeper Blue

Richard Hillman wrote: »

We lost everything because Micheal Martin has a 2 inch dick and is afraid of Mary Lou McDonald

Source?

US2

Great to see people living their best life's. I'll be doing the same myself this weekend. Miss the lockdown party's

Paddygreen

440Hertz wrote: »

They’re in “last hurrah” mode. The test of this will be in the days from now on. If there are still scenes like that, we’ve a problem.

I wonder if we’ll see the pro-virus, anti reality brigade out protesting on Saturday and whether the Gardai will actually do anything if they do?

The Chinese have the right idea. Detention and Re-education will be the only solution when dealing with the uncooperatives going forward...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F83iuaZ3Rxg

440Hertz

No they don’t have the right idea. They’re an authoritarian state with no concept of human rights.

If covid management though social distancing works in Ireland it will be primarily be by people voluntarily cooperating to get through it and making it work because they want to and because they care, not because they’re being threatened by an all powerful state that will force them into submission.

This is a depressing and frightening enough mess as it is, without going down that road!

MOR316

Richard Hillman wrote: »

We lost everything because Micheal Martin has a 2 inch dick and is afraid of Mary Lou McDonald

The next two inches are crucial

Josuke

Are house viewings allowed under new restrictions? I can't find a clear answer anywhere

Funsterdelux

MOR316 wrote: »

The next two inches are crucial

He still manages to screw us all with it :pac:

patnor1011

Paddygreen wrote: »

The Chinese have the right idea. Detention and Re-education will be the only solution when dealing with the uncooperatives going forward...

This kind of thinking is exactly what led to the biggest atrocities on this planet.

What Username Guidelines

The next two lockdowns are crucial.

weldoninhio

s1ippy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Ireunderworld/status/1319042340699463686?s=20

https://twitter.com/Trishee14/status/1317459982942638080?s=20

https://twitter.com/BarryWhyte85/status/1319049848612622336?s=20

Having the craic with the branch covidians.

We need more of this. Not less. Let the govt know that we aren’t zoo animals.

weldoninhio

El Sueño wrote: »

Source?

His torso

pjohnson

weldoninhio wrote: »

We need more of this. Not less. Let the govt know that we aren’t zoo animals.

By behaving like thick animals? Okey Doke Welly.

CoronaBlocker

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Reid has to resign or be sacked from the HSE. Its been a clusterf*ck from the get-go.
What do you have to do to be sacked in the public sector or from the HSE?

And wasn't he only mocking the British track and trace system not so long ago, too?

CoronaBlocker

Real Donald Trump wrote: »

Doubt he even has one.

One inch or one dick. Please clarify.

RonaVirus

The youth are a thundering, national disgrace.

Blondini

RonaVirus wrote: »

The youth are a thundering, national disgrace.

And their music's shiite.

Bhlarrrgghhh.

prunudo

I know its a minority but some people really don't get it, its a kick in the face to workers, buisness owners, people with cancelled medical appointments and everyone struggling to do their best at present.
I'm no lover of lockdowns and question the severity of some restrictions and logic of others. But i still respect the virus, keep my contacts down and don't gather in crowded spaces even if outside.

Widdensushi

CoronaBlocker wrote: »

One inch or one dick. Please clarify.

Sure he's a langer

GazzaL

You can travel to Ireland from wherever you want and go wherever you want. However, if you reside in Ireland you're restricted to 5km.

Comedy gold :pac:

marno21

There is a queue of over 6km on the N22 approaching the Garda checkpoint in Cork.

It’s those who are simply trying to get to work and having a difficult enough time as is I feel sorry for.

pjohnson

prunudo wrote: »

I know its a minority but some people really don't get it, its a kick in the face to workers, buisness owners, people with cancelled medical appointments and everyone struggling to do their best at present.
I'm no lover of lockdowns and question the severity of some restrictions and logic of others. But i still respect the virus, keep my contacts down and don't gather in crowded spaces even if outside.

And the same people celebrating the parties claim to support/care for those very people.

Allinall

prunudo wrote: »

I know its a minority but some people really don't get it, its a kick in the face to workers, buisness owners, people with cancelled medical appointments and everyone struggling to do their best at present.
I'm no lover of lockdowns and question the severity of some restrictions and logic of others. But i still respect the virus, keep my contacts down and don't gather in crowded spaces even if outside.

This is the nub of the issue.

If everyone ( or a large majority of people) did this, then we wouldn't have a fraction of the restrictions we have now.

Unfortunately, a large minority of people are selfish and think they know better.

copeyhagen

Pretty sure the videos are fake
1 Is dated 17th
1 shows not a single.person wearing a mask, so is probably from years ago
Last one has a comment under saying town was dead.
Family member was there last night till 6 and closed shop as Grafton st was dead.
So at 9pm all the pubs closed and everyone ran over to Grafton st for a popup rave?

Seems legit. Get the army in now.

GazzaL

Fair play to the Gardaí for creating huge delays around the country today for people going to essential work and schools.