Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

manniot2

Duke of Url wrote: »

That depends if people adapt their behavior.

it will depend on how sensitive they set the tests at the time and also how much spread happens in schools.

shocksy

I was in Mullingar earlier and was in one of their shopping centres were a particular retail chain who only sells clothes and has a few stores around the country were open as normal. Clearly a big FU to the restrictions and to the people and also other businesses who are abiding by the new restrictions. Also, just incase someone says it, no it wasn't for click an collect. It was open for anyone to walk in and out with a couple of people in there browsing when I passed by. I'm probably not allowed name the company here but these should be named and shamed.

is_that_so

DrSpongeBobz wrote: »

What number of cases do you guys think we will be at after 6 weeks lockdown?100 cases a day seems far fetched. I think around 600, hope I'm wrong

The question will be what do NPHET think? Their track record on easing of restrictions is not great. Personally don't expect it to happen on December 1 and that there will be other reasons not to do so. It's only planned to go back to Level 3 anyway, which will probably stay till Christmas, thus messing up a lot of family Christmases.

Cluedo Monopoly

shocksy wrote: »

I was in Mullingar earlier and was in one of their shopping centres were a particular retail chain who has a few stores around the country were open as normal. Clearly a big FU to the restrictions and to the people and also other businesses who are abiding by the new restrictions. Also, it wasn't for click an collect, it was open for anyone to walk in and out with a couple of people in there browsing when I passed by. I'm probably not allowed name the company here but these should be named and shamed.

what do they sell?

tobefrank321

patnor1011 wrote: »

This lockdown is a comedy gold designed to fail.
They should instead employ 1000's new doctors and nurses rather than putting 240k people out of work.

Absolutely designed to fail. It will either be renewed on December 1st or else in mid January when we're back at 1200 cases a day.

Meanwhile they can't be arsed providind staff to nursing homes where the problems are, increase ICU capacity significantly and tracking is a joke.

Sweet.Science

shocksy wrote: »

I was in Mullingar earlier and was in one of their shopping centres were a particular retail clothes chain who has a few stores around the country were open as normal. Clearly a big FU to the restrictions and to the people and also other businesses who are abiding by the new restrictions. Also, just incase someone says it, no it wasn't for click an collect. It was open for anyone to walk in and out with a couple of people in there browsing when I passed by. I'm probably not allowed name the company here but these should be named and shamed.

Why aren't you allowed name the company

mikekerry

Is it true that people are automatically flagged as covid positive if they don't turn up for tests?
I've heard it from a few sources.
Surely this is pushing up the figures but a large amount

Boggles

mikekerry wrote: »

Is it true that people are automatically flagged as covid positive if they don't turn up for tests?
I've heard it from a few sources.
Surely this is pushing up the figures but a large amount

NO

shocksy

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

what do they sell?

Sorry just edited the post now, just clothes, nothing else.

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Why aren't you allowed name the company

Because Boards Mods and Admins don't take to kindly to people naming companies in the wrong. I've seen it in the past. If they can confirm it's okay I'll gladly name and shame the retail chain. I contacted them on their very active social media page about it and was ignored.

is_that_so

SortingYouOut wrote: »

Where are these 1000's of doctors and nurses that can be employed, I didn't know there was a pool that big just waiting for employment?

The lockdown will only fail due to lack of will on the people's part. It's people that are driving these cases up so we do have to take a collective blame here instead of pointing the finger at the government the whole time.

Pointing fingers at people is not an effective strategy and may reduce that will even more. They need to be kept on board.

DrSpongeBobz

mikekerry wrote: »

Is it true that people are automatically flagged as covid positive if they don't turn up for tests?
I've heard it from a few sources.
Surely this is pushing up the figures but a large amount

Sounds like bull

daydorunrun

DrSpongeBobz wrote: »

What number of cases do you guys think we will be at after 6 weeks lockdown?100 cases a day seems far fetched. I think around 600, hope I'm wrong

Depends what gets classes as a case IMO

PCR testing needs to be substituted in favour of more accurate Means of tracing people who are sick/infected and infections.

Would be good to see hospital and ICU numbers improve but I would hold my breath as it’s coming into the worst time of year for hospital capacity even in non Covid times.

On a side note I’m sitting in my car about to collect the kids from school, Clusters of parents standing around chatting in close proximity, one lady has just jumped into the car in front for an old chin wag out of the cold.
I don’t see case numbers coming down too much!

mloc123

shocksy wrote: »

I was in Mullingar earlier and was in one of their shopping centres were a particular retail chain who only sells clothes and has a few stores around the country were open as normal. Clearly a big FU to the restrictions and to the people and also other businesses who are abiding by the new restrictions. Also, just incase someone says it, no it wasn't for click an collect. It was open for anyone to walk in and out with a couple of people in there browsing when I passed by. I'm probably not allowed name the company here but these should be named and shamed.

Pennys or TK Maxx?

mcburns07

DrSpongeBobz wrote: »

What number of cases do you guys think we will be at after 6 weeks lockdown?100 cases a day seems far fetched. I think around 600, hope I'm wrong

600 after 6 weeks would be an absolute disaster and result in Level 5 being extended a few weeks at least. It's very unlikely that it will be that ineffective.

Talk of non compliance is off the mark too, most people will do their bit to reduce the spread.

DrSpongeBobz

mcburns07 wrote: »

600 after 6 weeks would be an absolute disaster and result in Level 5 being extended a few weeks at least. It's very unlikely that it will be that ineffective.

Talk of non compliance is off the mark too, most people will do their bit to reduce the spread.

Well first 2 weeks is already set and we could be near 2000 by then so not really a disaster

bodhrandude

I don't know if this should be in the TA thread in Afterhours or Cries of Coronavirus in Ranting and Raving, but getting the Salthill bus into the city centre, on the journey there and back, two couples on the bus, one sitting in the crossed off seats. OK bus was fairly empty but at the same time it bloody irks me that the couples can't sit on window seats across from each other.

Today is a bad day in the hospital. Frightening how much staff are off through close contacts/positive tests. Currently trying to get through to occy health to see if I need to self isolate. ****!

shocksy

mloc123 wrote: »

Pennys or TK Maxx?

Neither of them two, but one of the other stores in that shopping centre.

F*ck it. It was DV8 Fashion. I'd be interested in knowing if the rest of their stores are open around the country today.

is_that_so

daydorunrun wrote: »

On a side note I’m sitting in my car about to collect the kids from school, Clusters of parents standing around chatting in close proximity, one lady has just jumped into the car in front for an old chin wag out of the cold.
I don’t see case numbers coming down too much!

I see the same out my window now, all very relaxed and shooting the breeze.

Amirani

Deleted User wrote: »

Today is a bad day in the hospital. Frightening how much staff are off through close contacts/positive tests. Currently trying to get through to occy health to see if I need to self isolate. ****!

Yeah, I've heard similar from a few hospitals in Dublin alright.

1641

mikekerry wrote: »

Is it true that people are automatically flagged as covid positive if they don't turn up for tests?
I've heard it from a few sources.
Surely this is pushing up the figures but a large amount

I heard that if you pass within 500 metres of a testing centre you are counted. I am staying home.

Non solum non ambulabit

DrSpongeBobz wrote: »

Well first 2 weeks is already set and we could be near 2000 by then so not really a disaster

Level 3 impacts are just kicking in now and they seem to have relatively stabilising effect without bringing numbers down. So i expect we have peaked at around 1,300 daily cases. I hope i am right but it will stay at that kind of level for about 2 weeks and then hopefully drop from there.

Widdensushi

1641 wrote: »

I heard that if you pass within 500 metres of a testing centre you are counted. I am staying home.

That's wrong, it's 500 feet

ACitizenErased

Deleted User wrote: »

Today is a bad day in the hospital. Frightening how much staff are off through close contacts/positive tests. Currently trying to get through to occy health to see if I need to self isolate. ****!

There's 150 staff including 50 porters out sick in the CUH.

Away With The Fairies

shocksy wrote: »

Neither of them two, but one of the other stores in that shopping centre.

F*ck it. It was DV8 Fashion. I'd be interested in knowing if the rest of their stores are open around the country today.

Google says the shop is open in Fermoy, whereas other shops Google page says they are temporarily closed

normanoffside

bodhrandude wrote: »

I don't know if this should be in the TA thread in Afterhours or Cries of Coronavirus in Ranting and Raving, but getting the Salthill bus into the city centre, on the journey there and back, two couples on the bus, one sitting in the crossed off seats. OK bus was fairly empty but at the same time it bloody irks me that the couples can't sit on window seats across from each other.

They live together, sleep together so what would them sitting separately on the bus archieve?

Boggles

shocksy wrote: »

It was DV8 Fashion.

Never heard of them.

wirelessdude01

mikekerry wrote: »

Is it true that people are automatically flagged as covid positive if they don't turn up for tests?
I've heard it from a few sources.
Surely this is pushing up the figures but a large amount

Not down here but I've heard this is the policy in the North.

boetstark

shocksy wrote: »

Neither of them two, but one of the other stores in that shopping centre.

F*ck it. It was DV8 Fashion. I'd be interested in knowing if the rest of their stores are open around the country today.

Here in limerick most stores open on o connell Street and surrounding streets. Only ones closed are big name ie penny's and bt. Counted 4 pound shops open loads of people walking around

giveitholly

shocksy wrote: »

Neither of them two, but one of the other stores in that shopping centre.

F*ck it. It was DV8 Fashion. I'd be interested in knowing if the rest of their stores are open around the country today.

Heard they are staying opened because they sell work gear so they have labelled themselves essential

shocksy

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Google says the shop is open in Fermoy, whereas other shops Google page says they are temporarily closed

Also says it's open for Mullingar. I'd take that with a pinch of salt though as to what google says as stores may not have updated their opening hours to temporarily closed yet, but as stated they were definitely open for full business with people browsing inside and someone buying something at the till.

Paddygreen

is_that_so wrote: »

I see the same out my window now, all very relaxed and shooting the breeze.

They should be absolutely terrified, cowering in their cars for fear of catching Covid19. I still see some people doing old normal things on my way to Spar each morning and it makes me want to vomit. Laughter (more droplets) particularly annoys me during these incredibly sobering and grim times. Keeping a good eye on the neighbors anyway, in case the authorities need any details about their activities going forward.

Busi_Girl08

boetstark wrote: »

Here in limerick most stores open on o connell Street and surrounding streets. Only ones closed are big name ie penny's and bt. Counted 4 pound shops open loads of people walking around

The pound shops sell products that deem them essential (cleaning products, some DIY stock, animal food etc.

1641

mcburns07 wrote: »

Talk of non compliance is off the mark too, most people will do their bit to reduce the spread.

I think deliberate non-compliance is definitely a minority - but more of a minority than it had been. But there are lots of people who think of themselves as compliant but still do there own "little thing", thinking they are safe, eg, a kid's birhday party. But much non-compliance is because many people have become tired and/or complacent, eg,

daydorunrun wrote: »

On a side note I’m sitting in my car about to collect the kids from school, Clusters of parents standing around chatting in close proximity, one lady has just jumped into the car in front for an old chin wag out of the cold.
I don’t see case numbers coming down too much!

shocksy

giveitholly wrote: »

Heard they are staying opened because they sell work gear so they have labelled themselves essential

I didn't hear that myself, but I can tell you for cetaintly they don't sell workgear in this store. All just casual clothing.

Real Donald Trump

is_that_so wrote: »

I see the same out my window now, all very relaxed and shooting the breeze.

Meanwhile the small shop up the road who gets maybe a handful of customers every few hours can't open. If I were a SME owner i'd be wanting to tear this government a new arsehole ..

Away With The Fairies

giveitholly wrote: »

Heard they are staying opened because they sell work gear so they have labelled themselves essential

Haha, their website has one workwear shirt. Hope the shops have more work gear.

polesheep

JDD wrote: »

Your right to know to prevent having to stay home for three to four days does not outweigh that original person's right to privacy. Sorry. It just doesn't. Even if you genuinely have concerns regarding your employment.

Be honest with the contact tracer. Tell them you can't isolate or you'll lose your job, and take your leave of the conversation. I can't see many employers wanting you about when you tell them that you're a close contact, but that you're coming into work anyway.

I suspect that most of those that are arguing the toss on the phone with the contact tracers are just f*ckin nosey, and want to find out who they caught it from. They also don't want to take the test because it's uncomfortable. That's it I'd say.

There are people who won't be paid if they have to self-isolate and that is a big issue. They are already on low income and may simply not be able to afford to self-isolate. It's an indictment of what we have become as a society.

I've had the test and it isn't even what I would describe as uncomfortable. I had my teeth cleaned in the dentists yesterday and I would gladly have had ten Covid tests instead:D

jobeenfitz

bodhrandude wrote: »

I don't know if this should be in the TA thread in Afterhours or Cries of Coronavirus in Ranting and Raving, but getting the Salthill bus into the city centre, on the journey there and back, two couples on the bus, one sitting in the crossed off seats. OK bus was fairly empty but at the same time it bloody irks me that the couples can't sit on window seats across from each other.

Let it go, life's too short.

Morrison J

DrSpongeBobz wrote: »

What number of cases do you guys think we will be at after 6 weeks lockdown?100 cases a day seems far fetched. I think around 600, hope I'm wrong

We need the R number at .5 to get there. Victoria in Australia had a more restrictive lockdown (closed schools etc) and only got to about .65 in that time. Doesn't bode well given we're keeping schools open.

zinfandel

boetstark wrote: »

Here in limerick most stores open on o connell Street and surrounding streets. Only ones closed are big name ie penny's and bt. Counted 4 pound shops open loads of people walking around

lots bending the rules, if they sell masks and sanitiser they seem good to go.
a shoe shop selling safety shoes... good to go...

jobeenfitz

Paddygreen wrote: »

They should be absolutely terrified, cowering in their cars for fear of catching Covid19. I still see some people doing old normal things on my way to Spar each morning and it makes me want to vomit. Laughter (more droplets) particularly annoys me during these incredibly sobering and grim times. Keeping a good eye on the neighbors anyway, in case the authorities need any details about their activities going forward.

Jesus you are taking this too far or are you working with some security force?

DrSpongeBobz

jobeenfitz wrote: »

Jesus you are taking this too far or are you working with some security force?

Just a regular boards poster

1641

Is there a Nphet briefing today?

Paddygreen

jobeenfitz wrote: »

Jesus you are taking this too far or are you working with some security force?

Ex FCA. I’m not enlisted atm but still have the uniform in case they need me.

Staffwise, there seems to be a larger cohort of staff catching covid-19 than in March. Troubling for ability of HSE to resist this type of stress. I've come around to the idea that it was a huge error not bringing in level 5 two weeks ago.

Richard Hillman

1641 wrote: »

Is there a Nphet briefing today?

A few sore heads if there is. I'm sure they were up all night celebrating their successful coup d'etat.

CalamariFritti

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

We could be wrong. The gap between old icu new icu admissions and discharges could be something else.

People missing from the hospital maybe?:cool::pac:

Stheno

ACitizenErased wrote: »

There's 150 staff including 50 porters out sick in the CUH.

Deleted User wrote: »

Staffwise, there seems to be a larger cohort of staff catching covid-19 than in March. Troubling for ability of HSE to resist this type of stress. I've come around to the idea that it was a huge error not bringing in level 5 two weeks ago.

Are they all testing positive or self isolating due to possible exposure?

Plumbthedepths

Paddygreen wrote: »

Ex FCA. I’m not enlisted atm but still have the uniform in case they need me.

Your country needs you. Throw on the uniform lad and search out those house parties. Shouldn't be hard found, apparently every second house is throwing one.