Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

s1ippy

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Zara is no more a "Journalist" than i'm a professional sports star

She's a journalist in the same way that Phil Taylor is an athlete.

Tony's waffle is doing a number on my data.

fritzelly wrote: »

Lot of propaganda being spewed over school cases in that briefing

I can't believe Zara didn't call her out on not answering the question asked the way she did with Tony a minute ago.

Roger_007

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

More or less, yes.

So, we must all isolate ourselves even from others in our own households?

JimToken

Teachers ,Medics and Nursing Home Staff are dropping out of the system faster than they can be replaced.

We've taken a relatively harmless virus and invented a terrible cure for it

Jizique

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Theres more than 1 DCMO

Typical civil service

Miike

Roger_007 wrote: »

So, we must all isolate ourselves even from others in our own households?

Did you watch a different briefing to me or are you being specifically obtuse?

Blondini

I'm so tired of all this ****e today I can't even do my daily "it's the schools" outrage.

Might need to be tested .... for something.

ChikiChiki

The frequency of posting on this thread is data in itself in comparison with earlier in the year at similar levels.

Public Interest is gone.

khalessi

Blondini wrote: »

I'm so tired of all this ****e today I can't even do my daily "it's the schools" outrage.

Might need to be tested .... for something.

It's the Flu Blondini get tested for flu

froog

dr heather burns is a bit of alright.

Eod100

How low can we go. So tis like a covid limbo.

Gadgetman496

US2 wrote: »

There will be less cases announced this evening than the last few days.

Roger_007

Miike wrote: »

Did you watch a different briefing to me or are you being specifically obtuse?

I apologise for my thickness but what the hell does he mean by telling us all to behave as if we were close contacts? If we adhere to that advice, nobody could go to work, (essential or otherwise), or anywhere else because that’s what close contacts are supposed to do.
The country would grind to a halt.

boardise

DebDynamite wrote: »

How is COVID spreading so easily in care homes, hospitals and labs, where I think a poster said 6 of his colleagues tested positive?

I know it just takes one person to bring it into the workplace, but how is is spreading amongst the staff if masks should definitely be worn in these environments - or are they? Obviously it would be easy enough for patients to contract it as they are vulnerable and not wearing masks, but i’m surprised at the level of spread amongst workers in clinical settings.

Not all nurses will be fully vigilant all the time I guess -they're human beings like the rest of us.Some will on occasion be slightly careless, take chances , lose concentration ,get tired or be forgetful.
The virus does none of these things.

seamus

s1ippy wrote: »

1 in 250 19-24 year olds are infected.

Pretty clear where it's being driven from at this stage. Socialising without precautions.

Hard to get a grasp on though. That age group are traditionally the least engaged. How do you convince them of the importance of being civic minded?

is_that_so

Roger_007 wrote: »

I apologise for my thickness but what the hell does he mean by telling us all to behave as if we were close contacts? If we adhere to that advice, nobody could go to work, (essential or otherwise), or anywhere else because that’s what close contacts are supposed to do.
The country would grind to a halt.

It's a step up from assume everyone has the disease! That's not the best message at all.

fritzelly

George Lee - Always look on the worst side of life - we are all doomed

Arghus

George is even more wound up than usual.

Eod100

George Lee right to ask these sort of questions in fairness

JP Liz V1

https://twitter.com/roinnslainte/status/1319330877537648641

fritzelly

GL doesn't half go on asking a simple question

8k71ps

seamus wrote: »

Pretty clear where it's being driven from at this stage. Socialising without precautions.

Hard to get a grasp on though. That age group are traditionally the least engaged. How do you convince them of the importance of being civic minded?

I bet you closing the schools will make all the lads suddenly not want to socialize anymore, why else would the number of close contacts go down in in the younger age groups? Not as if they're staying in stuffy rooms all day with little to no ventilation.

eagle eye

froog wrote:

dr heather burns is a bit of alright.

Nice one, should we start a covid hotties thread?

bb1234567

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/roinnslainte/status/1319330877537648641

100 times greater assuming we are catching every single cases occurring. Presumably at least a significant proportion still arent being caught otherwise there would be no community transmission surely?

normanoffside

fritzelly wrote: »

GL doesn't half go on asking a simple question

Took 5 minutes to ask a good question but drowned out the question with waffle

Blondini

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/roinnslainte/status/1319330877537648641

Just as well we are in full lockdown then...


wait, what's that? Taxidermy is an essential service now?

Roger_007

Blondini wrote: »

Just as well we are in full lockdown then...


wait, what's that? Taxidermy is an essential service now?

That’s because there are a lot of people who need to get stuffed.

manofwisdom

Tony dealt very well with that long George Lee fear mongering rant.

Away With The Fairies

Why are they blaming us? Telling us to behave as if we're close contacts.

This virus is airborne, you can do everything right and still end up catching this.

Is it easier to blame us?

Blondini

Roger_007 wrote: »

That’s because there are a lot of people who need to get stuffed.

I fed you that you that one in all fairness. Split the royalties?

Reckless Abandonment

Assuming most EU countries had issues testing in April may etc ireland isn't doing to bad. Are numbers are not a million miles above our frist wave. Were as the UK France are seeing a massive difference

Roger_007

Blondini wrote: »

I fed you that you that one in all fairness. Split the royalties?

Half of zero is still zero.

saabsaab

There was a report in June that DNA analysis was being done to determine the origins of the virus within Ireland. (Cillian De Gascun?) Said it would be useful in a second wave. Has there been any further news on this?

Sardonicat

boardise wrote: »

Not all nurses will be fully vigilant all the time I guess -they're human beings like the rest of us.Some will on occasion be slightly careless, take chances , lose concentration ,get tired or be forgetful.
The virus does none of these things.

You also have to take into account the type of care required by most nursing home residents :bathing, feeding, continence care, etc, can only be given through direct and prolonged and repeated contact. Staffing levels and unsuitable PPE ( basic mask, plastic apron and short gloves don't cut it when having to deliver that type of presonal care to numerous people). Have they got access to disposable smocks, long gloves etc and if not why not? The home helps are still similarly inadequately equipped unless they are caring for a suspected case. With community transmission so high it is only a matter of time before a staff member is infected and then you have a disaster like this.

Walking up the street this morning, 60 primary school kids being herded out the gates by two teachers. One giant huddle, no social distancing. Meanwhile my local which had to carefully separate out 15 punters is now closed. And before you say it, jog on with your "essential". The schools closed earlier this year for several months (excluding summer holliers), six weeks isn't going to break them.

seamus

8k71ps wrote: »

I bet you closing the schools will make all the lads suddenly not want to socialize anymore, why else would the number of close contacts go down in in the younger age groups? Not as if they're staying in stuffy rooms all day with little to no ventilation.

How many 19-24 year olds are in school?

8k71ps

seamus wrote: »

How many 19-24 year olds are in school?

My mistake I didn't realize you were specifically referring to that group.

Nobotty

seamus wrote: »

How many 19-24 year olds are in school?

Quite a few with h dip's !

ixoy

Interesting that my LEA's numbers are up from last week yet its ranking, overall in Ireland, has managed to drop even further into the bottom 1/3.

s1ippy

Helen went "as Tony said, we are going into this with 14 - 15k infections in the community" but Tony didn't say that, George Lee did. Tony got VERY tense.

Sweet.Science

Compare the numbers posting here now to the first day after lockdown in March

Nobody cares anymore

ACitizenErased

Cork LEA numbers this week are insanity. Every single LEA besides Midleton increased significantly. Every LEA in the city has an incidence rate of over 400. Cork City South Central is at 800.
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=115022735#post115022735

Polar101

ixoy wrote: »

Interesting that my LEA's numbers are up from last week yet its ranking, overall in Ireland, has managed to drop even further into the bottom 1/3.

Pretty much no change in mine, but it's gone from Covid Central to Very Average nationally.

Just clicking around, Cavan had one LEA at 1,488/100k and Meath one with 1,212/100k, they were the highest ones I found.

Eod100

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Compare the numbers posting here now to the first day after lockdown in March

Nobody cares anymore

It's comparing unknown with something we have experience of. Some of the recent threads were some of the ones who reached 10k faster. It continues to effect people's lives that might not translate as posting on here but not exactly a true comparison tbf.

Pitch n Putt

Roger_007 wrote: »

Dr Tony is telling us that:
- we must all behave for the next six weeks as if we are ‘close contacts’.
- close contacts must self-isolate.

Therefore we must all self-isolate for the next six weeks.

Have I got that right?

Dr Tony is an arrogant ass.

Shouldn’t even be still employed in the role he has let alone running the show

46 Long

Paddygreen wrote: »

It’s the antisocial right wing nazi types that are holding us back. I’d hold them down while they get tested, for free, I could dust off my black belt and put some manners on them as we round them up. Hopefully 2021 or 2022 will be year zero... covid.

Shouldn't we try the carrot first before resorting to the stick? Get the nurses to offer an ice-cold can of Galahad and a king size Johnny blue with every test.

is_that_so

Eod100 wrote: »

It's comparing unknown with something we have experience of. Some of the recent threads were some of the ones who reached 10k faster. It continues to effect people's lives that might not translate as posting on here but not exactly a true comparison tbf.

No they weren't!

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112846635&postcount=2

majcos

Strumms wrote: »

Exactly, The taxpaying citizens are investing big money in you...

It costs just shy of 300,000 euros to fully train a doctor here.

The public are investing this money in YOU to become qualified for to help THEM here, US ...not to help and treat other people in other countries.

If a person rocked up, said in a pre medical college interview... “ yes my plan is to work hard, get qualified and move to Australia !” I want and expect the interview panel to say.. “ ok, thanks for your honesty. As a result of what you have told us however we need to inform you that you are no longer eligible to participate on this course.”

Also on accepting a place on the course there should be a requirement to sign a contract....

“ on successfully completing my degree I commit to remaining fully available for a minimum period of six years to work within the health services in Ireland, i acknowledge now that failure to do so without good reason will make me liable for the reimbursement of the entire cost of the medical degree. “...

We train doctors not just so they become doctors, but so they help people, here....investing money and expertise in them, so they can use those qualities to help US...

If I give my Hyundai dealer 50,000 for a Santa Fe..l I expect to be able to collect it, drive it and own it. Not given away to someone else. Same principle when WE spend OUR money training doctors .

Maybe we’d be having a better reaction to battling covid if we’d done this.

I can appreciate the idea that some sort of pay back is expected for a good education. However, I don’t think this logic can be exclusively be applied to one sector.

If doctors and others in healthcare are expected to ‘pay back’ their education to their country, then so too should all others. Why should teachers not be obliged to teach here, architects to design housing for the homeless, engineers to contribute to building homes and improving infrastructure, lawyers to prosecute criminals and defend victims, business graduates to contribute to economic development, etc., etc.

Funsterdelux

s1ippy wrote: »

They might get out the seismometer again like they did in the summer to measure how much we're walking around the place.

Maybe thats where Glynn is gone off to...

CalamariFritti

prunudo wrote: »

Not quite sure why people are expecting traffic volumes to feel like April. What was introduced is level 5 in name only. Between schools and the amount of exemptions to the rules it may as well be business as usual. This is really only a hospitality and hairdresser/barber lockdown with a 5km tarvel limit for excerise thrown in for good measure.

And closed golf courses

majcos

Deleted User wrote: »

Signs of stability - green shoots but not an established trend.

Interesting to see 14 day incidence rate in Donegal had started to decline before level 5 started and even before/close to when level 4 started.