Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

Tony Holohan very measured here. Speaking sense unlike any of the politicians.

Jinglejangle69

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Tony Holohan very measured here. Speaking sense unlike any of the politicians.

Saying what we already know.

normanoffside

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Junta Leader Tony Hoolihan is on the Late Late Show now for a softball interview

Ryan: If we'd listened to you 2 weeks ago would we have avoided the Nursing home outbreaks?

How about: If you'd kept testing nursing homes weekly instead of fortnightly would we have avoided the Nursing home outbreaks?

AlphaDelta1

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Junta Leader Tony Hoolihan is on the Late Late Show now for a softball interview

This comment says more about you than it ever would about Hoolihan.

There's some madball stuff on this site tbh.

BorneTobyWilde

RonaVirus wrote: »

Are people actually paying attention to the 5km thing?

Eh have any retailers closed? 1 or 2. No one is caring about Level 5 this time round. Hardly any retailers have closed, one or two where i am, last time it was 100% of them. Business as usual here.

Police don't care either when they just drive on by .

Jinglejangle69

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Saying what we already know.

That the HSE is teetering on the edge of collapse?

Richard Hillman

Strumms wrote: »

He’ll be rightly given the freedom of the country when this is over. Great man.

We can all take the day off work for when he gets it. Sure we won't have jobs anyway, so we won't need to book the day off.

Jinglejangle69

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That the HSE is teetering on the edge of collapse?

Is it?

News to me.

suicide_circus

I have a little shrine to Tony in the sitting room with candles and incense burning 24/7.

KrustyUCC

Shocker Tubridy allowed Tony not to answer the question about level 2 or 3

prunudo

froog wrote: »

never said they were the sole driver but i didn't hear of any groups of 30 or 40 year olds having "lockdown parties". which is still going on, on facebook this very minute.

Again your bias against young people is telling. If the gardai had of been more proactive with checkpoints at various times of the day, not just targeting workers, advising against unnecessary journeys and gatherings when Dublin entered level 3 then we might not be where are now.

Jinglejangle69

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Is it?

News to me.

You obviously haven't been paying close enough attention. Level 5 should have happened a couple of weeks ago. Mass ward closures on the horizon next week. Good luck having a heart attack/stroke in next 6 weeks.

Jinglejangle69

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You obviously haven't been paying close enough attention. Level 5 should have happened a couple of weeks ago. Mass ward closures on the horizon next week. Good luck having a heart attack/stroke in next 6 weeks.

I have been and I haven't seen any headlines about what you just said.

Jinglejangle69

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

I have been and I haven't seen any headlines about what you just said.

I work in the HSE. The situation is far worse than it was last March. it's not case numbers, it's staff isolating/ covid + that is killing us.

Miike

normanoffside wrote: »

Ryan: If we'd listened to you 2 weeks ago would we have avoided the Nursing home outbreaks?

How about: If you'd kept testing nursing homes weekly instead of fortnightly would we have avoided the Nursing home outbreaks?

Not accurate at all.

Example:
Day 0 HCW tests not detected. Low viral load.

Day 3/4/5/6 HCW becomes symptomatic

Potentially 3/4/5 days of transmission in that period.

Weekly testing may have mitigated the risk but certainly not avoided it. This risk would be further reduced by low levels of community transmission but a certain cohort want to be absolved of all personal responsibility.

suicide_circus

When a vaccine is found it will almost certainly be in the form of a suppository. A large suppository.

Abusesurvivor

Are house cleaners permitted to work during Level 5 restrictions?

tobefrank321

Holohan unable to give a date when we'll have infections under control.

12th of Never it is so.

manniot2

tony is some PR man

wirelessdude01

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Holohan unable to give a date when we'll have infections under control.

12th of Never it is so.

That is determined by our actions.

Miike

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Holohan unable to give a date when we'll have infections under control.

12th of Never it is so.

He must have left his crystal ball in Miesian Plaza

tjdaly

Abusesurvivor wrote: »

Are house cleaners permitted to work during Level 5 restrictions?

Clean your own house you filthy dawg.

Richard Hillman

Tubridy describing the businesses being shut down and the owners are patriotic (even though they didn't have an option). Straight out of the totalitarian regime playbook. We put you out of business and you are patriots for it.

speckle

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You obviously haven't been paying close enough attention. Level 5 should have happened a couple of weeks ago. Mass ward closures on the horizon next week. Good luck having a heart attack/stroke in next 6 weeks.

back in spring at the height of it a eldery couple I know..one had a suspected heart attack the other a stroke.. both received the best of care.. less beds then...higher cases hospitalised and on ICU... so whats changed if other countries to go by less influenza expected. Only difference I can see is no private hospitals onboard. That is a HSE/Nephet/government decision.

manniot2

Tubridy is a fooking disgrace

suicide_circus

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

That is determined by our actions.

Comply. Obey.

Santy2015

Mr Tony H used the work behaviour a lot there...

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/diarmaid-ferriter-we-have-been-infantilised-with-promises-of-christmas-1.4388486?mode=amp

And read this thread by Professor Nolan...
https://twitter.com/president_mu/status/1319572805185318917?s=21

rob316

Ryan: as we are all in this together tony, have you drop your weekly wage to the PUP level?

Jim_Hodge

Abusesurvivor wrote: »

Are house cleaners permitted to work during Level 5 restrictions?

Strictly speaking, I think not. Visitors to homes are restricted to care givers and trades people. A cleaner doesn't fit the bill.

MelbourneMan

manniot2 wrote: »

tony is some PR man

He is a terrific communicator alright. Quite aside from the detail and quality of the advice being provided to the government, much of this battle will be won or lost by the level of trust, communication, and leadership shown by those providing expert advice that is predominantly beyond the full understanding of those who must change their lives. And having someone who can convey the message with such judgment and authority is a very strong benefit in the favour of Ireland's handling of the crisis.

froog

prunudo wrote: »

Again your bias against young people is telling. If the gardai had of been more proactive with checkpoints at various times of the day, not just targeting workers, advising against unnecessary journeys and gatherings when Dublin entered level 3 then we might not be where are now.

are you for real? you're blaming checkpoints for where we are now??

manniot2

bribery with xmas..it never ends. what happened to bribing us to get the schools open. what next, easter?

is_that_so

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

That is determined by our actions.

It is but it's ultimately determined by NPHET. They have set a metric but it remains to be seen whether they'll stand over that or as some of us expect they'll extend their recommendation anyway.

suicide_circus

MelbourneMan wrote: »

He is a terrific communicator alright. Quite aside from the detail and quality of the advice being provided to the government, much of this battle will be won or lost by the level of trust, communication, and leadership shown by those providing expert advice that is predominantly beyond the full understanding of those who must change their lives. And having someone who can convey the message with such judgment and authority is a very strong benefit in the favour of Ireland's handling of the crisis.

manniot2

MelbourneMan wrote: »

He is a terrific communicator alright. Quite aside from the detail and quality of the advice being provided to the government, much of this battle will be won or lost by the level of trust, communication, and leadership shown by those providing expert advice that is predominantly beyond the full understanding of those who must change their lives. And having someone who can convey the message with such judgment and authority is a very strong benefit in the favour of Ireland's handling of the crisis.

sorry i meant con man not pr man

speckle

speckle wrote: »

back in spring at the height of it a eldery couple I know..one had a suspected heart attack the other a stroke.. both received the best of care.. less beds then...higher cases hospitalised and on ICU... so whats changed if other countries to go by less influenza expected. Only difference I can see is no private hospitals onboard. That is a HSE/Nephet/government decision.

It's not. The staff off is far greater now than back in March. Community transmission is to blame. You are deluded if you think that the HSE chose community transmission as a coping strategy.

Strumms

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

That is determined by our actions.

1000%

We need to rely on expertise to provide a vaccine and other help, medical and so on, rest is on US

SleetAndSnow

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Holohan unable to give a date when we'll have infections under control.

12th of Never it is so.

How's he supposed to do that when for all he knows there could be a massive rave in some gaff in the back ass of nowhere that spreads to every part of the country. It's really up to the people and how they behave and interact with eachother.

tobefrank321

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

That is determined by our actions.

10% of people at least will always do their own thing regardless. Unless you imprison that 10% they are not going to follow advice or public health guidance.

This is the real world. We're not China where you can be dragged off to an isolation centre if you test positive or don't follow the rules. We're also not Sweden where 99.9% follow guidance.

is_that_so

MelbourneMan wrote: »

He is a terrific communicator alright. Quite aside from the detail and quality of the advice being provided to the government, much of this battle will be won or lost by the level of trust, communication, and leadership shown by those providing expert advice that is predominantly beyond the full understanding of those who must change their lives. And having someone who can convey the message with such judgment and authority is a very strong benefit in the favour of Ireland's handling of the crisis.

If it's still beyond the understanding of some then he's not a good communicator, none of them are!

manniot2

he amazingly said that icu capacity didnt matter. what matters is locking people up. thats fine in a country of fooking idiots like this.

is_that_so

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

How's he supposed to do that when for all he knows there could be a massive rave in some gaff in the back ass of nowhere that spreads to every part of the country. It's really up to the people and how they behave and interact with eachother.

I don't expect anything on that at all until about 18 November but I'm not optimistic about what will be said then or on Dec 1 and still see it being extended into December.

Funsterdelux

suicide_circus wrote: »

When a vaccine is found it will almost certainly be in the form of a suppository. A large suppository.

You're shïtting me?

is_that_so

tobefrank321 wrote: »

10% of people at least will always do their own thing regardless. Unless you imprison that 10% they are not going to follow advice or public health guidance.

This is the real world. We're not China where you can be dragged off to an isolation centre if you test positive or don't follow the rules. We're also not Sweden where 99.9% follow guidance.

It's always been about most people doing most things right. Then you support that with the testing system.

normanoffside

I just can't believe no-one is questioning the reduction in testing in nursing homes. It should be increased not reduced.
Blaming Joe Soap for nursing home infections is just pure deflection, ironically they are using those deaths to blame the public.

Sweet.Science

Nothing more assuring than a rich clown on RTE calling people on the bread line patriotic

Couldn't make this **** up

CruelSummer

Why has Dr Ciara Kelly’s twitter account been deleted?

CruelSummer

CruelSummer wrote: »

Why has Dr Ciara Kelly’s twitter account been deleted?

You imply somebody apart from her? What's your point?

Miike

CruelSummer wrote: »

Why has Dr Ciara Kelly’s twitter account been deleted?

She made a spectacle of her self on Twitter and deleted her account.

KrustyUCC

manniot2 wrote: »

bribery with xmas..it never ends. what happened to bribing us to get the schools open. what next, easter?

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