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Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭Goldrickssan


    Anyone have a link to that chart that shows the current restriction strictness per country?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,694 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    This is a seasonal disease. Why is it so hard for people to understand that it was going to increase in the winter as businesses opened and people continued to do normal activities?

    Is it? Florida, Texas etc were getting almost 9-10k cases a day during the summer. It just got so low here because we really lowered the amount of cases in the community to basically nothing. That took a while to build back up, is my opinion anyway


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭Goldrickssan


    This is a seasonal disease. Why is it so hard for people to understand that it was going to increase in the winter as businesses opened and people continued to do normal activities?

    Tell that to the middle east

    Obviously it's going to increase in winter but it doesn't dissappear in heat or summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Jimson wrote: »
    Why were stable at 50 a day until the schools reopened.
    Why is that?
    We weren't. We were at 150 a day and rising.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    It slows growth

    It doesn’t drop it to the level needed
    We don't know that yet. We won't know until around 4th Nov.


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    Stheno wrote: »
    Over 15k cases in Czechia which would be the equivalent of 7k cases here

    I see too they sacked their health minister for breaching his own restrictions only hours after enacting them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,971 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    It slows growth

    It doesn’t drop it to the level needed

    Yeah you're kind of stuck in level 3 indefinitely because if you relax restrictions at a time of 700-1000 cases per day, it'll quickly get out of control.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,615 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    are we the only EU/western country seeing a stabilization/decrease?

    It's looking that way at the moment alright. Norway/Finland still have low cases numbers albeit rising.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,796 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Regarding the UK, i have been trying to find out why they report death figures for those who tested positive within the previous 28 days only.

    Surely this excludes those who died after the 28 days, which could be many, and so underestimates the real death figure?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    This is a seasonal disease. Why is it so hard for people to understand that it was going to increase in the winter as businesses opened and people continued to do normal activities?

    On what plane of existence is this a seasonal disease?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    How many deaths a day are we averaging now
    4 deaths on average per day at the moment. With the three-week lag, that is in keeping with the 1% case fatality rate for the average of 392 cases on October 2nd.
    In keeping with that, an average of 11 people per day will be dying in three weeks. Whether you feel that's high or low is your own call.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Regarding the UK, i have been trying to find out why they report death figures for those who tested positive within the previous 28 days only.

    Surely this excludes those who died after the 28 days, which could be many, and so underestimates the real death figure?

    The UK seem to be constantly shifting the goalposts when it comes to the reporting of COVID-19 deaths, about 2 months ago they knocked over 5000 deaths from their total. In the past week I read that well in excess of 60,000 death certs mentioned COVID-19 on them. Back in the first peak hardly a day went by without coming across articles on reputable news sites claiming the real death figure was 25 to 30% higher.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Regarding the UK, i have been trying to find out why they report death figures for those who tested positive within the previous 28 days only.

    Surely this excludes those who died after the 28 days, which could be many, and so underestimates the real death figure?

    On the other hand they may also be including people who died from entirely different causes but who happened to have had a positive test within 28 days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    It's looking that way at the moment alright. Norway/Finland still have low cases numbers albeit rising.

    im all for a bit of positivity but is that not a bit odd tbh, we have one of the worst healthcare systems in the EU, our contact tracing is falling apart, our education system is also one of the worst with regards numbers and resources in the eu, we have an open border with the North which is particularly bad. How the hell are we bringing numbers down when no one else can?


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    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Regarding the UK, i have been trying to find out why they report death figures for those who tested positive within the previous 28 days only.

    Surely this excludes those who died after the 28 days, which could be many, and so underestimates the real death figure?

    That only applies to people who had COVID and recovered. If someone dies in hospital they still count regardless of the length of time since a test.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    Miike wrote: »
    On what plane of existence is this a seasonal disease?

    well, if you count every season seasonal, i suppose it is :pac:


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    im all for a bit of positivity but is that not a bit odd tbh, we have one of the worst healthcare systems in the EU, our contact tracing is falling apart, our education system is also one of the worst with regards numbers and resources in the eu, we have an open border with the North which is particularly bad. How the hell are we bringing numbers down when no one else can?
    Bars/restaurants shut, no visits to homes probably


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭Goldrickssan


    Uk over 20k cases again today. 7 day average above 20k also, they are ****ed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,670 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Miike wrote: »
    On what plane of existence is this a seasonal disease?

    Its seasonal in the sense of how we live our lifes, the effects of the virus will be worse during the months we spend more time indoors in close proximity to others. Reduced sunlight and people spending less time exercising outdoors will also effect the body's immune system.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,615 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    im all for a bit of positivity but is that not a bit odd tbh, we have one of the worst healthcare systems in the EU, our contact tracing is falling apart, our education system is also one of the worst with regards numbers and resources in the eu, we have an open border with the North which is particularly bad. How the hell are we bringing numbers down when no one else can?

    Just because we were the first to shut bars/restaurants, Dublin bars shut over a month ago. I'd also imagine contact tracing is collapsing everywhere right now, huge surge in most European countries, and no system can cope with that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,681 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    859 cases
    4 deaths


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭Goldrickssan


    859 cases open the pubs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,858 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    859 cases
    4 deaths


    Any day now below 1000 is a good day, that's how bad it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    This is a seasonal disease. Why is it so hard for people to understand that it was going to increase in the winter as businesses opened and people continued to do normal activities?

    How can it be ascertained at this early stage that Covid-19 is seasonal ?

    Hayfever is seasonal

    We call the flu seasonal too but it's really our behaviours and habits that are seasonal

    In my opinion, seasonality, in the case of a virus, suggests susceptibility to temperature, humidity and/or amount of sunlight


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    what if we open the pubs on Mondays and Tuesdays to begin with


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,788 ✭✭✭Benimar


    859 cases open the pubs

    Are you going to do this every day?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,681 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Hospitals down by 4 to 315
    ICU down by 1 to 37


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,124 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Disappointing given yesterday’s drop


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,681 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    192 in Dublin, 148 in Cork, 58 in Donegal, 55 in Galway, 54 in Monaghan, with 352 cases spread across 21 remaining counties.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,124 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    192 in Dublin, 148 in Cork, 58 in Donegal, 55 in Galway, 54 in Monaghan, with 352 cases spread across 21 remaining counties.

    Cork should be sleazed off with those numbers


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Disappointing given yesterday’s drop

    did you want us to drop by 200 each day? to around zero next weekend?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,788 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Disappointing given yesterday’s drop

    Yesterday’s positive swabs were higher than today, so if anything things are improving slightly.

    You (like a number on here) are reading way too much into each single days figures.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭statesaver


    Hospitals down by 4 to 315
    ICU down by 1 to 37

    Welcome news


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭Goldrickssan


    Benimar wrote: »
    Are you going to do this every day?

    Giving up never made anything happen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,681 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    It now appears that there is a bit of a backlog building......


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,124 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    did you want us to drop by 200 each day? to around zero next weekend?

    No that’s never going to happen but a continued downward trend would have been good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,681 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Gael23 wrote: »
    No that’s never going to happen but a continued downward trend would have been good
    There was less positive swabs today than yesterday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,670 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Gael23 wrote: »
    No that’s never going to happen but a continued downward trend would have been good

    It is a continued downward trend, swabs have been dropping the last few days.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,615 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    It now appears that there is a bit of a backlog building......

    Yep, few hundred cases. So we'll have a big day of cases numbers in the next few days when they catch up. I find this very irritating, as it will be reported on RTE as an increase, but it won't be


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Yep, few hundred cases. So we'll have a big day of cases numbers in the next few days when they catch up. I find this very irritating, as it will be reported on RTE as an increase, but it won't be

    Super Tuesday :) with a stern warning from NPHET at the same time.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Disappointing given yesterday’s drop

    Its about 1,600 over 2 days. This time last week it looked like that number would be a daily figure


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭Goldrickssan


    They need to build up a backlog of cases so they can give George Lee a big number at least once a week.

    He would die of blue balls otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,681 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Luckily even with the backlog it looks as if, with the swabs dropping, the +backlog figure won't be as bad as previous weeks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,995 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    859 cases
    4 deaths
    192 in Dublin, 148 in Cork, 58 in Donegal, 55 in Galway, 54 in Monaghan, with 352 cases spread across 21 remaining counties.

    :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    It now appears that there is a bit of a backlog building......

    When's the next presser?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    With the NVRL closed, I'm not sure the figures over the weekend are going to be reliable anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,305 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    RIP, the four people who died


  • Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭Goldrickssan


    s1ippy wrote: »
    With the NVRL closed, I'm not sure the figures over the weekend are going to be reliable anyway.

    NVRL being closed is only 600 tests a day and these are being covered by other labs.

    17k tests completed today this theory is bolox


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,063 ✭✭✭Ohmeha


    Dublin & ROI daily/7 Day/14 Day numbers and percentages for the past 3 weeks

    Excluding any legitimate debates/concerns over backlogs and/or lack of contact tracing - the 7 day average numbers and percentage numbers are slowing down so I'm optimistic we are passing the peak of Ireland's 2nd wave, the next 5/6 weeks will be about how low the new case numbers are going so we can re-open in likely Level 3 for December

    Day Month Date Dublin Weekly 7 Day 7 Day % 14 Day 14 Day % Non-Dub Weekly 7 Day 7 Day % 14 Day 14 Day %
    Sunday October 4th 100 1,244 177.71 25.91% 159.43 20.52% 264 1,827 261.00 66.70% 208.79 102.42%
    Monday October 5th 134 1,169 167.00 4.28% 163.57 22.33% 384 2,030 290.00 74.25% 228.21 111.59%
    Tuesday October 6th 111 1,126 160.86 2.27% 159.07 19.47% 321 2,142 306.00 76.44% 239.71 117.22%
    Wednesday October 7th 218 1,155 165.00 -2.70% 167.29 22.23% 393 2,295 327.86 73.47% 258.43 120.21%
    Thursday October 8th 91 1,076 153.71 -9.58% 161.86 14.68% 415 2,438 348.29 69.54% 276.86 126.53%
    Friday October 9th 123 1,001 143.00 -19.01% 159.79 11.46% 494 2,660 380.00 73.18% 299.71 133.76%
    Saturday October 10th 241 1,018 145.43 -24.93% 169.57 16.60% 771 3,042 434.57 70.80% 344.50 160.00%
    Sunday October 11th 226 1,144 163.43 -8.04% 170.57 14.15% 588 3,366 480.86 84.24% 370.93 163.07%
    Monday October 12th 254 1,264 180.57 8.13% 173.79 10.94% 571 3,553 507.57 75.02% 398.79 171.68%
    Tuesday October 13th 190 1,343 191.86 19.27% 176.36 15.97% 621 3,853 550.43 79.88% 428.21 182.12%
    Wednesday October 14th 246 1,371 195.86 18.70% 180.43 15.77% 849 4,309 615.57 87.76% 471.71 193.90%
    Thursday October 15th 288 1,568 224.00 45.72% 188.86 18.41% 917 4,811 687.29 97.33% 517.79 202.29%
    Friday October 16th 254 1,699 242.71 69.73% 192.86 16.63% 746 5,063 723.29 90.34% 551.64 204.90%
    Saturday October 17th 278 1,736 248.00 70.53% 196.71 16.06% 998 5,290 755.71 73.90% 595.14 196.09%
    Sunday October 18th 408 1,918 274.00 67.66% 218.71 37.19% 875 5,577 796.71 65.69% 638.79 205.95%
    Monday October 19th 235 1,899 271.29 50.24% 225.93 38.12% 796 5,802 828.86 63.30% 668.21 192.80%
    Tuesday October 20th 203 1,912 273.14 42.37% 232.50 46.16% 1,066 6,247 892.43 62.13% 721.43 200.95%
    Wednesday October 21st 263 1,929 275.57 40.70% 235.71 40.91% 904 6,302 900.29 46.25% 757.93 193.28%
    Thursday October 22nd 244 1,885 269.29 20.22% 246.64 52.38% 822 6,207 886.71 29.02% 787.00 184.26%
    Friday October 23rd 182 1,813 259.00 6.71% 250.86 57.00% 595 6,056 865.14 19.61% 794.21 164.99%
    Saturday October 24th 192 1,727 246.71 -0.52% 247.36 45.87% 667 5,725 817.86 8.22% 786.79 128.38%


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    s1ippy wrote: »
    With the NVRL closed, I'm not sure the figures over the weekend are going to be reliable anyway.

    Anything to deny good news ha


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