Gyms to Reopen 2021???

Mellor

rondog wrote: »

I know of many that have caught COVID including myself and ive had worse colds.ANyone i know that caught got a mild dose.Of course people will get sick with it but they should be cocooning/SHielding whatever term they use.

Fairly small sample there mate. Not sure of the relevance. Just like knowing somebody that’s died or got a bad dose doesn’t mean everyone’s gonna die.

There is a massive amount of people that have slipped into depression, back in to addiction due to gyms having been closed.

That’s unfortunate, genuinely don’t like to see people suffer.
Sounds like the gym was a band-aid and problem wasn’t addressed. Not judging in the slightest, it’s surprisingly common. I see it quite a lot where people replace a negative problem with a positive one. Unfortunately, it looks very much like a solution.

We have tens/.hundreds of thousands of people that have suffered far more with the closure of Gyms the halting of sport etc than is the case with COVID.

Hundreds of Thousands? Where did that number come from. Or do you mean figuratively.
Who are these people and why are they suffering? A gym is a convenient place to work out. It’s not the only way. There are dozens of ways to workout without the gym.

If anyone is struggling with not having access to the gym. Please, ask somebody for help. Ask whoever you trained with, start a thread here, ask in a random thread.
If you don’t want to start a thread, send me a PM. Or any of the other regular posters here. Will be only glad to help.

rondog

Mellor wrote: »

Fairly small sample there mate. Not sure of the relevance. Just like knowing somebody that’s died or got a bad dose doesn’t mean everyone’s gonna die.

Well if you look up the official survival rates for the main attendees of gyms its 99+%.That includes the whole population with the disease,far smaller rate than a stroke victim,someone with undiagnosed heart disease and the hundreds of other diseases that have been ignored due to the focus on COVID.

That’s unfortunate, genuinely don’t like to see people suffer.
Sounds like the gym was a band-aid and problem wasn’t addressed. Not judging in the slightest, it’s surprisingly common. I see it quite a lot where people replace a negative problem with a positive one. Unfortunately, it looks very much like a solution.

Well counselling is just a Band Aid or any other form of therapy as the addictions will always remain if thats the strange way of looking at it.Id much rather be attending the Gym as an addiction than taking heroin.

Hundreds of Thousands? Where did that number come from. Or do you mean figuratively.
Who are these people and why are they suffering? A gym is a convenient place to work out. It’s not the only way. There are dozens of ways to workout without the gym.
There are but you are being very simple.The vast majority of people dont have the knowledge to set up different exercise routines and depend on the convenience of the gym and/or PT to show them what they need to do.

If anyone is struggling with not having access to the gym. Please, ask somebody for help. Ask whoever you trained with, start a thread here, ask in a random thread.
If you don’t want to start a thread, send me a PM. Or any of the other regular posters here. Will be only glad to help.

Answer in the text above.

AS i was saying its a counsellor i know not the people.I have no idea who the individuals are ,same with the many children and adults who will suffer the obesity epidemic that is forecasted when we come out of this pandemic.Look at the many other countries that kept gyms open,that didnt have such a long severe lockdown and actually kept people emplyed and businesses going which keeps the unemplyment level down and prevents us paying off the massive debt that this country is needlessly accumulating and will be paying off for years to come.
Accompanied with the misery that almost 500k people are unemployed and many business will never open again.

Alf Veedersane

rondog wrote: »

NEPHET are purely medical and dont take anything else into consideration which is shocking considering other countries have people on their deceision making boards from a commercial,business back ground .

NPHET's role isn't to take everything into consideration.

That's the government's role. NPHET are merely advisors.

If NPHET have too much of a say, that is a government problem, i.e. it is weak and incapable.

rondog

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

NPHET's role isn't to take everything into consideration.

That's the government's role. NPHET are merely advisors.

If NPHET have too much of a say, that is a government problem, i.e. it is weak and incapable.

Thats basically what Ive said.

NEPHET advise on medical issues and public health.We need to have advisors from all sectors of society giving the Govt a balanced view so they take decisions based on the entire story ,We have a spinless government that took slack after the Xmas opening debacles and have deferred to NEPHET for all decision making.
There are no leaders in the Dail at the moment.

el Fenomeno

I'm staying up north for a few days and the gym in my hotel is open, so I brought my gear for a few workouts. Will be weird surrounded by actual equipment again!

Alf Veedersane

rondog wrote: »

Thats basically what Ive said.

NEPHET advise on medical issues and public health.We need to have advisors from all sectors of society giving the Govt a balanced view so they take decisions based on the entire story ,We have a spinless government that took slack after the Xmas opening debacles and have deferred to NEPHET for all decision making.
There are no leaders in the Dail at the moment.

You said it was shocking that NPHET doesn't include people from other sectors, so it read like you expect them to.

Agreed on no leaders in the Dail and they're only too happy to sit behind NPHET and let them answer questions that should be put to and answered by the govt and not NPHET.

The government has a whole swathe of different departments that should be feeding into decision making because there are plenty of advisors in the government departments as it is.

jrosen

IBEC's suggestion is to have all aspects of retail, personal services and all construction open on May 4th as well as outdoor hospitality in May.

Underground

Sounds promising.

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1387133102116511746?s=19

nullzero

Underground wrote: »

Sounds promising.

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1387133102116511746?s=19

Should we start getting our hopes up?

Underground

nullzero wrote: »

Should we start getting our hopes up?

I wouldn't advise it but I personally can't help myself.

iguana

Underground wrote: »

Sounds promising.

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1387133102116511746?s=19

That specifically says outdoor training for adults.

j@utis

How many people are gym members countrywide, % of population? Gyms are constantly mentioned in the news and media, like something very popular and attended by masses, therefore they must be covid hotspots.
But personally out of our housing estate (48units) I've ever seen maybe 3-4 people in the our gym and they wouldn't regular goers (show up for 3 months and disappear until the next time). Out of my 25 work colleagues only one is a gym goer, all young people. On the other hand, majority I know love going to restaurants, pubs, concerts, shopping centres and other places of massive gathering...

DuffleBag

Mellor wrote: »

Fairly small sample there mate. Not sure of the relevance. Just like knowing somebody that’s died or got a bad dose doesn’t mean everyone’s gonna die.


That’s unfortunate, genuinely don’t like to see people suffer.
Sounds like the gym was a band-aid and problem wasn’t addressed. Not judging in the slightest, it’s surprisingly common. I see it quite a lot where people replace a negative problem with a positive one. Unfortunately, it looks very much like a solution.


Hundreds of Thousands? Where did that number come from. Or do you mean figuratively.
Who are these people and why are they suffering? A gym is a convenient place to work out. It’s not the only way. There are dozens of ways to workout without the gym.

If anyone is struggling with not having access to the gym. Please, ask somebody for help. Ask whoever you trained with, start a thread here, ask in a random thread.
If you don’t want to start a thread, send me a PM. Or any of the other regular posters here. Will be only glad to help.

As much as I really want the gyms to reopen, this man is speaking a lot of sense

davmol

DuffleBag wrote: »

As much as I really want the gyms to reopen, this man is speaking a lot of sense

I disagree.My wife works in the fitness profession and she and her colleagues have been inundated with calls for PT.Everyone she talks to is sick and tired of walks,running in the park, cycling especially considering the weather in this country.WIth the constant winds and rain in this country many that were cycling have just gotten sick of it.

So many people dont have the knowledge of how to make fitness programmes to keep updating their routine and id gather most dont know where to look.

The Gym has so much convenience and its the social aspect too and where people can go and have a multitude of different equipment righy beside them plus you dont have to brave the Irish weather.

Another poster mentioned not many in their estate go to the gym,my Job has practicvally all employees that were using a gym and our estate (the younger people) would all be in local gyms.

johnnyskeleton

Underground wrote: »

Sounds promising.

https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1387133102116511746?s=19

No mention of gyms. Which is funny, because the original plan for January was to have level 5 (or 4++ or whatever) but specifically keep the gyms open. People were complaining that the gyms would stay open but hairdressers wouldn't.

Now, we are likely to see everything BUT gyms reopening.

DuffleBag

davmol wrote: »

I disagree.My wife works in the fitness profession and she and her colleagues have been inundated with calls for PT.Everyone she talks to is sick and tired of walks,running in the park, cycling especially considering the weather in this country.WIth the constant winds and rain in this country many that were cycling have just gotten sick of it.

So many people dont have the knowledge of how to make fitness programmes to keep updating their routine and id gather most dont know where to look.

The Gym has so much convenience and its the social aspect too and where people can go and have a multitude of different equipment righy beside them plus you dont have to brave the Irish weather.

Another poster mentioned not many in their estate go to the gym,my Job has practicvally all employees that were using a gym and our estate (the younger people) would all be in local gyms.

Of course, we're all sick of doing those things as well. Whether they use a PT or not that's still another way of exercising without the gym, which was Mellor's point that "the gym is a convenient place to work out, it's not the only way".

Not sure how much of a social aspect there will be if the gyms reopened with individual training only allowed, as it was before this lockdown.

davmol

To Clarify-this is personal training IN a gym using rowing machines, weights, ropes etc all the things conveniently located in a gym.

el Fenomeno

el Fenomeno wrote: »

I'm staying up north for a few days and the gym in my hotel is open, so I brought my gear for a few workouts. Will be weird surrounded by actual equipment again!

It's not much, but it's something! I appear to have this to myself for the next few days.

FlubberJones

I'm still sick of HIIT, Tabata, Resistance bands.... and all the other stuff I do every morning trying to maintain a semblance of fitness... I would simply like the gym to open.

Then I can forget about so much cardio fitness and simply lift to get strong and back to the shape I'm used to.

This is why I need the gym to open. And be there seven days a week... happy as I can be

DuffleBag

davmol wrote: »

To Clarify-this is personal training IN a gym using rowing machines, weights, ropes etc all the things conveniently located in a gym.

How's that allowed?

leanin2019

FlubberJones wrote: »

I'm still sick of HIIT, Tabata, Resistance bands.... and all the other stuff I do every morning trying to maintain a semblance of fitness... I would simply like the gym to open.

Then I can forget about so much cardio fitness and simply lift to get strong and back to the shape I'm used to.

This is why I need the gym to open. And be there seven days a week... happy as I can be

If you had five square metres spare at home you could have yourself a squat rack, bench, plates, dumbells and away you go.

Good to get out of the house for the buzz and Banter though

FlubberJones

leanin2019 wrote: »

If you had five square metres spare at home you could have yourself a squat rack, bench, plates, dumbells and away you go.

Good to get out of the house for the buzz and Banter though

It's a first floor apartment and there is no space spare and no way would I have a rack / bench with up to a 100kg on these floors... I'd be saying hello to the neighbors in a fairly surprising way!

JTMan

Anyone read a media report today where it was stated when gyms are likely to reopen?

SeanJ09

JTMan wrote: »

Anyone read a media report today where it was stated when gyms are likely to reopen?

I didn't, unfortunately.

Underground

Journal mentions June as likely date for gyms. Not sure if that's based on insider info or if they're just making it up, both equally likely.

https://www.thejournal.ie/easing-restrictions-5422865-Apr2021/

SeanJ09

June 7th it is. Was hoping for earlier.

SilentGreenx32

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Mellor

davmol wrote: »

I disagree.My wife works in the fitness profession and she and her colleagues have been inundated with calls for PT.Everyone she talks to is sick and tired of walks,running in the park, cycling especially considering the weather in this country.WIth the constant winds and rain in this country many that were cycling have just gotten sick of it.

I'm not sure how that counters what I said.
A walk in the park, or bit of cycling not remotely what I was referring to. And if people think that's the only way you can train without a gym, they are the people that I'm saying should ask for help. Asking a PT counts too.

So many people dont have the knowledge of how to make fitness programmes to keep updating their routine and id gather most dont know where to look.

It's true that most people don't info. Which is why they should ask.
And to add, walking into a gym doesn't suddenly give them this info either.

Mellor

FlubberJones wrote: »

I'm still sick of HIIT, Tabata, Resistance bands.... and all the other stuff I do every morning trying to maintain a semblance of fitness... I would simply like the gym to open.

Then I can forget about so much cardio fitness and simply lift to get strong and back to the shape I'm used to.

This is why I need the gym to open. And be there seven days a week... happy as I can be

What were you doing before gyms closed. ie typical routine.
What is you goal now, or when gyms open?
What equipment do you have?

JTMan

SeanJ09 wrote: »

June 7th it is. Was hoping for earlier.

Disappointing that gyms are not in the 10 May nor late May nor 2 June phases of the easing of restrictions. A very different set of groupings than prior re-openings. Sad that gyms were lowered down the priority list.

Leo promised to put forward a case in favour of gyms at cabinet. This goes to cabinet today. I wonder if Leo might get gyms bumped up the list? or is there little hope of that?

Alf Veedersane

JTMan wrote: »

Disappointing that gyms are not in the 10 May nor late May nor 2 June phases of the easing of restrictions. A very different set of groupings than prior re-openings. Sad that gyms were lowered down the priority list.

Leo promised to put forward a case in favour of gyms at cabinet. This goes to cabinet today. I wonder if Leo might get gyms bumped up the list? or is there little hope of that?

Seems to be prioritising outdoors this time so it'll probably stay that way.

And I would take what Leo says he will do with a pinch of salt

leanin2019

JTMan wrote: »

Disappointing that gyms are not in the 10 May nor late May nor 2 June phases of the easing of restrictions. A very different set of groupings than prior re-openings. Sad that gyms were lowered down the priority list.

Leo promised to put forward a case in favour of gyms at cabinet. This goes to cabinet today. I wonder if Leo might get gyms bumped up the list? or is there little hope of that?

Leo is part of the cabinet subcommittee that met yesterday.

Other Ministers could sway it. If they are reading - please do.

Alf Veedersane

There'll be no one in the gym on the 8th of June...everyone will be dying of DOMS

is_that_so

OmegaGene wrote: »

Last time I went back I was in bits for 3 days

Easing into it over a week or so worked for me last time. Felt a desire to charge in but common sense got a hold of me first!

Alf Veedersane

OmegaGene wrote: »

Last time I went back I was in bits for 3 days

Most people know to ease back into it but it'll be hard not to be buzzing and overdo it to some degree.

Had hoped it would be a couple of weeks sooner but at least we know now and I can do another few weeks at this stage

Rosita

JTMan wrote: »

Disappointing that gyms are not in the 10 May nor late May nor 2 June phases of the easing of restrictions. A very different set of groupings than prior re-openings. Sad that gyms were lowered down the priority list.

Leo promised to put forward a case in favour of gyms at cabinet. This goes to cabinet today. I wonder if Leo might get gyms bumped up the list? or is there little hope of that?

I think "Leo" was just letting everyone know he was just really one of the guys when he said that. Doesn't mean anything.

jrosen

I was half expecting gyms to be June but I also expected it to be in line with personal services and non essential shopping. I just cant see the logic in allowing salons to open where social distancing is not possible at all, treatments going ahead where the client will have no mask on for anything up to an hour (facials) in a small enclosed space with no ventilation but I cant go to the gym and work out in a corner by myself with all the doors open.

the baby bull elephant

jrosen wrote: »

I was half expecting gyms to be June but I also expected it to be in line with personal services and non essential shopping. I just cant see the logic in allowing salons to open where social distancing is not possible at all, treatments going ahead where the client will have no mask on for anything up to an hour (facials) in a small enclosed space with no ventilation but I cant go to the gym and work out in a corner by myself with all the doors open.

The only (incredibly slight hope) I have from reading the ITs breakdown is that gyms come back with a booking system on the 10th and just reopen fully on 7th June. Not really expecting that though.

according to this leak, gyms are open in may. so many useless, baseless leaks now it's annoying.

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/money/other/two-key-dates-for-irelands-lockdown-exit-as-all-details-leaked/ar-BB1gaJnW?li=BBr5HCU

JTMan

rusty cole wrote: »

according to this leak, gyms are open in may. so many useless, baseless leaks now it's annoying.

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/money/other/two-key-dates-for-irelands-lockdown-exit-as-all-details-leaked/ar-BB1gaJnW?li=BBr5HCU

While I hope that Extra.ie are right ... Extra.ie is the Daily Mail who have got a few things wrong with reopening plans previously.

JTMan

JTMan wrote: »

While I hope that Extra.ie are right ... Extra.ie is the Daily Mail who have got a few things wrong with reopening plans previously.

yes I think it will be booking and single training with full return of classes in June.
That's how it reads to me which is perfect, two weeks to gym sessions!

leanin2019

rusty cole wrote: »

according to this leak, gyms are open in may. so many useless, baseless leaks now it's annoying.

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/money/other/two-key-dates-for-irelands-lockdown-exit-as-all-details-leaked/ar-BB1gaJnW?li=BBr5HCU

JTMan wrote: »

While I hope that Extra.ie are right ... Extra.ie is the Daily Mail who have got a few things wrong with reopening plans previously.

It's the only media source reporting this. All others saying June so I seriously doubt it but stranger things have happened...

JTMan

rusty cole wrote: »

yes I think it will be booking and single training with full return of classes in June.

Maybe that explains why other media outlets are saying June. They are forgetting the fact that there are 2 phases of gym reopening.

Really hope the Daily Mail/Extra.ie are right but I would not be betting on it.

jrosen

I really hope they open in May.

Mitch Connor

I was hoping May, but I can't see it being before June th based on the info we are seeing.

If they meant 7th for classes with bookings bfore, it would have been said as Gym Classes/Pool not Gym/Pools.

Disappointing - another 5 weeks or so.

billyhead

It should be individual training in May and group classes in June.

jrosen

I agree, there is no reason why individual training cant come back in May and then group in June. I cant wait for my spin classes to come back. My poor bum after class one.

Underground

billyhead wrote: »

It should be individual training in May and group classes in June.

Would agree with this for sure but given the silence from govt on this I think we can probably take it for granted that it's 7th June for individual training in gyms. Disappointing as I'd stupidly gotten my hopes up for May.

billyhead

Underground wrote: »

Would agree with this for sure but given the silence from govt on this I think we can probably take it for granted that it's 7th June for individual training in gyms. Disappointing as I'd stupidly gotten my hopes up for May.

Yeh. It's a pity. The gym I was in was bookings for hourly slots only. It was very regimented but safe with plenty of sanitizers etc and nobody acting the b***ox.

FlubberJones

Mellor wrote: »

What were you doing before gyms closed. ie typical routine.
What is you goal now, or when gyms open?
What equipment do you have?

5 or 6 times a week on weights, separated the muscle groups and rotated heavy and light intensity.

I have bands and a mat that I use for the HIIT sessions.

Goal now is maintain some semblance of fitness so that once back in the gym I am at least cardio fit to get back on the weights and gain some muscle back