More people believing Conspiracy theories

Potential-Monke

I love the last bit in the article:

"The satellite also carries technology which will be used for crop disaster monitoring and forest fire prevention."

BUTT DE RAYZ!!!

I tend to believe somewhat on some conspiracies, especially the ones with actual evidence. For example, 9/11. The video of the explosions floor by floor as it was falling, and the other evidence presented (over many, many different videos, all taken with a bag of salt), such as how a plane hit the Pentagon in the first place, wreckage "melting" conveniently, finding the passports of the lads... I wouldn't outright say it was inside, but it does have a lot of evidence to at least make you think.

Then you have Flat Earthers, who have no evidence at all, or the 5G weirdos. Those are the funny ones. But some conspiracies do put forward a good argument.

dxhound2005

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I love the last bit in the article:

"The satellite also carries technology which will be used for crop disaster monitoring and forest fire prevention."

BUTT DE RAYZ!!!

I tend to believe somewhat on some conspiracies, especially the ones with actual evidence. For example, 9/11. The video of the explosions floor by floor as it was falling, and the other evidence presented (over many, many different videos, all taken with a bag of salt), such as how a plane hit the Pentagon in the first place, wreckage "melting" conveniently, finding the passports of the lads... I wouldn't outright say it was inside, but it does have a lot of evidence to at least make you think.

Then you have Flat Earthers, who have no evidence at all, or the 5G weirdos. Those are the funny ones. But some conspiracies do put forward a good argument.

The internet is full of "evidence" supporting Flat Earth and 5G theories. What makes your "actual evidence" about 9/11 any more credible than theirs? They would tell you where to get off if you challenged them.

I have spotted a pattern in a lot of posts. People say Look at me I'm all reasonable, I don't believe in Lizard People, Fake Moon Landings etc. But I think there are "questions" and "doubts" about JFK, 9/11 etc.

To me both are equally invalid, and the "actual evidence" and so called proof offered is itself open to many questions.

Hangdogroad

a_squirrelman wrote: »

But here's the thing, I wouldn't class Noam Chomsky and John Pilger as conspiracy theorists (don't know the other fella), I respect them for the most part, it isn't an all in or all out thing.

Where with the recent conspiracy theories floating around I'm like "wtf is this".

John Pilger has come very close in recent years. He seems happy to a accept any Putin, Assad propaganda at face value.

rinleezz

dxhound2005 wrote: »

The internet is full of "evidence" supporting Flat Earth and 5G theories. What makes your "actual evidence" about 9/11 any more credible than theirs? They would tell you where to get off if you challenged them.

I have spotted a pattern in a lot of posts. People say Look at me I'm all reasonable, I don't believe in Lizard People, Fake Moon Landings etc. But I think there are "questions" and "doubts" about JFK, 9/11 etc.

To me both are equally invalid, and the "actual evidence" and so called proof offered is itself open to many questions.

Well, you sort of put these conspiracy theories in two completely different groups. Flat Earth and 5G are nonsense and can be debunked by scientific facts to any person that doesn't have a peanut for a brain.

Potential-Monke

dxhound2005 wrote: »

To me both are equally invalid, and the "actual evidence" and so called proof offered is itself open to many questions.

Basically what rinleezz said. The crazy ones (5G, Flat Earth, spreading viruses via cell signals, etc) can be disproven by science and fact. The others can have some element of truth to them. Again, I don't believe many, but I do question 9/11. And to be honest, when I got sucked into that hole, I've tried my best to avoid going into another one, so I try not to get too interested in them these days. But 9/11 has a very interesting hole... that doesn't sound right.

ShatterAlan

The Nal wrote: »

"The main thing that I learned about conspiracy theory, is that conspiracy theorists believe in a conspiracy because that is more comforting. The truth of the world is that it is actually chaotic. The truth is that it is not The Iluminati, or The Jewish Banking Conspiracy, or the Gray Alien Theory.

The truth is far more frightening - Nobody is in control.

The world is rudderless."

Alan Moore

Did Mr Moore see things from the deepest inside? I would imagine FDR, JFK or DDE did.


The world is not chaotic, nor are events. For the most part they are controlled. If you deign to think that they are random then you ought to try and think again.


Events do not happen without either malice aforethought OR the projection of consequence.


Nothing that affects the lives of those on the planet happens by pure happenstance, except natural events such as storms, earthquakes, floods. Those event's that cannot be controlled.

Pinch Flat

Woke up this morning to see pretty much every pole and fence in My local neighbourhood plastered with laminate signs "stop the fear - the corona virus has never been isolated in a laborotory" and further goes on with anti vax and conspiracy nonsense. Finished with links to you tube asking people to "do their research". Im sure the text was cut and paste from some anti vax / 5g / anti mask conspiracy forum that our local karen signed up to and decided to take it upon herself to impart this misleading public health information.

katiek102010

Two complete idiots with gemmaitis arrested in my local town the other night.

Handing or i should say trying to ram leaflets into people with their bs nonsense.

Gemma then trying to rally protesters to free the tipp 2,

It would be funny except I have underlying health condition and I don't need some mad lunatic, probably infected with god knows what geiing in my face and trying to force a leaflet on to me, while I was telling her to get the f**k away.
Sorry now I didn't ring the guards myself

di11on

This thread reminds me of this... what a comic genius :-)

https://youtu.be/AwARY7Kk8ek?t=57

The Nal

ShatterAlan wrote: »

Did Mr Moore see things from the deepest inside? I would imagine FDR, JFK or DDE did.

JFK, RFK, MLK et al had no control over some randomers putting a bullet in their heads.

Its easier to believe that these things were planned as opposed to just one lone lunatic with a gun.

Grab All Association

A plausible conspiracy theory I heard was Fianna Fáil party had Liam Lawlor assassinated in Russia. He was ready to lift the lid on a lot of corruption by other FF TDs in Haughey and Aherns Governments

The Nal

Grab All Association wrote: »

A plausible conspiracy theory I heard was Fianna Fáil party had Liam Lawlor assassinated in Russia. He was ready to lift the lid on a lot of corruption by other FF TDs in Haughey and Aherns Governments

He died in a car crash. So did the driver.

Hangdogroad

Grab All Association wrote: »

A plausible conspiracy theory I heard was Fianna Fáil party had Liam Lawlor assassinated in Russia. He was ready to lift the lid on a lot of corruption by other FF TDs in Haughey and Aherns Governments

I've heard it all now.

COVID

Harry Palmr wrote: »

David Ike's Twitter account has been terminated.

....or eaten by Lizard People. Do the research and then decide.

corner of hells

Grab All Association wrote: »

A plausible conspiracy theory I heard was Fianna Fáil party had Liam Lawlor assassinated in Russia. He was ready to lift the lid on a lot of corruption by other FF TDs in Haughey and Aherns Governments

I'm friends with one of his sons , he loves this **** .
In fact he'll tell you Liam Lawlor is still alive and working in Vegas .
The sole survivor sued a number of Irish newspapers settling out of court for the ****e published about her.

COVID

ShatterAlan wrote: »

You bring up the moon landing conspiracy....
........
"In politics nothing happens by accident. If it happens you can bet it was planned that way." - Franklin D. Roosevelt.

"We will prefer even a conspiracy theory or junk theory to no theory at all." — Christopher Hitchens

Hangdogroad

corner of hells wrote: »

I'm friends with one of his sons , he loves this **** .
In fact he'll tell you Liam Lawlor is still alive and working in Vegas .
The sole survivor sued a number of Irish newspapers settling out of court for the ****e published about her.

Yes, the Sindo straight out said she was a prostitute.

ohnonotgmail

Grab All Association wrote: »

A plausible conspiracy theory I heard was Fianna Fáil party had Liam Lawlor assassinated in Russia. He was ready to lift the lid on a lot of corruption by other FF TDs in Haughey and Aherns Governments

In what way is it plausible?

Pinch Flat

And so it continues. Reading through FB this evening, a comedian i follow has done a covid sketch. Someone posts about the vaccine and how it's going to change your DNA. From what I can see, the poster is no immunology expert so unlikely to be sitting on some cutting edge research that they're having peer reviewed and ready for publication in the morning.

The post attracts a heap of likes. "Speaking facts"' "do your research" are common themes in the replies. Anyone who challenges is branded as a sheep. "Wake up","It's all part of the plan". It's almost cult like and evalengical.

The DNA claim is easily debunked by fact checking. Why are people so gullible?

feedmindc19

Pinch Flat wrote: »

And so it continues. Reading through FB this evening, a comedian i follow has done a covid sketch. Someone posts about the vaccine and how it's going to change your DNA. From what I can see, the poster is no immunology expert so unlikely to be sitting on some cutting edge research that they're having peer reviewed and ready for publication in the morning.

The post attracts a heap of likes. "Speaking facts"' "do your research" are common themes in the replies. Anyone who challenges is branded as a sheep. "Wake up","It's all part of the plan". It's almost cult like and evalengical.

The DNA claim is easily debunked by fact checking. Why are people so gullible?

This and whats the story with agenda 21/30, Ive googled it and the jest of it is to eradicate poverty and less governments etc http://www.un.org/esa/agenda21/natlinfo/

Pinch Flat

feedmindc19 wrote: »

http://www.un.org/esa/agenda21/natlinfo/

Page not found :eek:. Must be a conspiracy.

Btw I'm familiar with Agenda 21/30. Sane and reasonable people think it's an initiative by the the UN to address climate action, reduce unemployment, strengthen gender equality and promote peaceful societies. The tin foil hatters think this

https://www.buzzfeed.com/joeydurso/coronavirus-agenda-21-5g

Capt'n Midnight

Pinch Flat wrote: »

Page not found :eek:. Must be a conspiracy.