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Two former solicitors paid homeless people for their PPS numbers and took out loans

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    #32
    OMM 0000
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    screamer wrote: »
    Feel sorry for their little baby. She doesn’t seem to have any immediate family to help her, and he’s estranged from his family from what I read this morning.
    There’s probably a movie in this down the line....

    The entire thing is puzzling.

    So the guy is working as a chef and she's on a back to work scheme?

    I would have thought former solicitors could work in companies as compliance officers or something along those lines.


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    #33
    BrianD3
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    I wouldn't be eating in an establishment that he is a chef in. Who knows what he'd be up to.


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    #34
    Corcaigh84
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Cox

    This was the first thing I thought of when I read the article today. It's almost as if they saw his 60 Minutes interview and copied him word for word. I always thought Ireland was too small for this carry on.

    Yer man did about 12 years in jail and recently did a load of podcasts about his life and crimes on Koncrete. Fantastic to listen to, he can tell a yarn for sure. These two I'd say are a Tesco Value brand of con artists at best.


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    #35
    Rows Grower
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    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    The entire thing is puzzling.

    So the guy is working as a chef and she's on a back to work scheme?

    I would have thought former solicitors could work in companies as compliance officers or something along those lines.

    They're not just two former solicitors though are they?

    They are intelligent criminals, repeat offenders, facing a prison sentence and not to be trusted.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    #36
    donegal_man
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    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    ...I would have thought former solicitors could work in companies as compliance officers or something along those lines.

    Can't see either of these two getting a job like that. You know, given the criminal convictions for deception and fraud.


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    #37
    seamus
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    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    The entire thing is puzzling.

    So the guy is working as a chef and she's on a back to work scheme?

    I would have thought former solicitors could work in companies as compliance officers or something along those lines.
    They'd be toxic tbh. A quick google and you find out they've been struck off for "irregularities" in client accounts.

    No company would let them near a position that required any trust or diligence.


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    #38
    ohnonotgmail
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    Rasputin11 wrote: »
    Will they serve any prison time?

    He was remanded in custody until sentencing and she was given bail to make arrangements for their kid. Jail time is a certainty.


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    #39
    Hangdogroad
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    From the pictures of them arriving in court they seem very arrogant, smiling as if they're celebrities.


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    #40
    ohnonotgmail
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    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    The entire thing is puzzling.

    So the guy is working as a chef and she's on a back to work scheme?

    I would have thought former solicitors could work in companies as compliance officers or something along those lines.

    I cant imagine anybody is rushing to hire struck off solicitors for positions of responsibility. Especially one that only lasted 4 years before they were suspended.


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    #41
    skooterblue2
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    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    I would have thought former solicitors could work in companies as compliance officers or something along those lines.

    MNCs arent too keen on you when you have a criminal record. Although I worked with a former INLA guy (dont get excited we werent best buddies), what did he get done for? Bank robbery, attack on British Royal Marines in West Germany, Escaping from the Maze? No, burning a widows house.

    I would say either being honest that you have a criminal record or refusing to sign for a police background check would kill your chances of employment for a MNC. But it would be an ideal career change to Quality control in a pharmaceutical company or FDA/TUV/BSA. Looking for all those inconsistencies in the paperwork


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    #42
    JustAThought
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    Keith Flynn & Lyndsey Clarke.
    Liars, thieves, cheats and criminals.
    Not the first Irish solicitors or Irish judges to be found lying and cheating their way through their lives and clients money and inheritances.

    The law society struck off and complaints section of their website makes for harrowing reading - and that’s only the ones that have been caught. How many families have been cheated and stolen from by solicitors who were operating in a position of trust and were never caught out.

    Disgusting behaviour - and for Judge kelly to be apologising to them for having to strike them off so early in their solicitors career. wtf is wrong with people?

    Should be a mandatory 20 year prison sentence. How many elderly or vulnerable people are also robbed or ripped off by scum like these two ;Keith Flynn and Lyndsey Clarke.


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    #43
    OMM 0000
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    donegal_man wrote: »
    Can't see either of these two getting a job like that. You know, given the criminal convictions for deception and fraud.
    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    MNCs arent too keen on you when you have a criminal record.

    Pretty sure these are the types of people to pretend they don't have a criminal conviction...


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    #44
    Corcaigh84
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    You really miss out on the gold from Judge Ó Donnabháin's comments re: AIB if you only read the RTE article:

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40071779.html


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    #45
    skooterblue2
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    I cant imagine anybody is rushing to hire struck off solicitors for positions of responsibility. Especially one that only lasted 4 years before they were suspended.

    Unless you are in the trade, you would not know about this. Until recently (last 10 years) the law society have been very slow to deal with striking off. People are very slow to talk about dealings with solicitors. To me it is an old boys clubs, the same boys who went to school, played rugby, went to university, played golf and sat the bar at the same time. You arent going to hang your old friend out to dry?

    My mother had a grievance with a solicitor in Limerick for taking a final will from a man who wasnt in his right man, with no doctors cert. A solicitor warned her that she may or may not win and there could be serious consequences if she failed. I know another woman who got a strike against another solicitor who complained to the "Master of Taxes". It sounds like a horrible profession to be in.


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    #46
    skooterblue2
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    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    Pretty sure these are the types of people to pretend they don't have a criminal conviction...

    Real jobs ask you to submit for Garda vetting or if not you are "known" locally. You will be found out soon enough.


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    #47
    ohnonotgmail
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    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    Unless you are in the trade, you would not know about this. Until recently (last 10 years) the law society have been very slow to deal with striking off. People are very slow to talk about dealings with solicitors. To me it is an old boys clubs, the same boys who went to school, played rugby, went to university, played golf and sat the bar at the same time. You arent going to hang your old friend out to dry?

    My mother had a grievance with a solicitor in Limerick for taking a final will from a man who wasnt in his right man, with no doctors cert. A solicitor warned her that she may or may not win and there could be serious consequences if she failed. I know another woman who got a strike against another solicitor who complained to the "Master of Taxes". It sounds like a horrible profession to be in.

    what does any of that have to do with the post of mine you responded to?


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    #48
    BorneTobyWilde
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    Should not see prison, considering the Billions the tax payer is paying back for the Bankers and Builders who thought the good times would never end.
    Some Community Service would be enough, were they not paying back all these fake loans? Just using different IDs to obtain them. Or where they taking out loans and then vanishing with the money.


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    #49
    ohnonotgmail
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    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Should not see prison, considering the Billions the tax payer is paying back for the Bankers and Builders who thought the good times would never end.
    Some Cumontitty Service would be enough, were they not paying back all these fake loans? Just using different IDs to obtain them. Or where they taking out loans and then vanishing with the money.

    did you bother to read the article in the OP?


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    #50
    BorneTobyWilde
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    did you bother to read the article in the OP?


    Yea I did. Did not say whether they were obtaining loans, yet paying them.


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    #51
    Cork Trucker
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    Corcaigh84 wrote: »
    You really miss out on the gold from Judge Ó Donnabháin's comments re: AIB if you only read the RTE article:

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40071779.html

    That judge has been known to be a bit of a character with such talk. He’s known to impose a stiff sentence when he does impose one. The circuit court’s version of Michael ‘Padlock’ Pattwell in many ways.


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    #52
    OMM 0000
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    skooterblue2 wrote: »
    Real jobs ask you to submit for Garda vetting

    No they don't...

    I've worked at Microsoft, Google, LinkedIn... zero background checks.


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    #53
    skooterblue2
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    what does any of that have to do with the post of mine you responded to?

    Law is a very closed society. It is very hard to tell which solicitors are on the level unless you dealing with the law. I happen to be fortunate enough to know people who are associated with solicitors to get advice from but the ordinary people in the street, they take their chances.


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    #54
    skooterblue2
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    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    No they don't...

    I've worked at Microsoft, Google, LinkedIn... zero background checks.

    Ahhhhh now I see the difference. I signed document that authorised a garda check, now I see whether it was followed up is a different matter. Any ordinary person would assume it was followed up on, there by scaring off anyone with a criminal record.


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    #55
    AmberGold
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    The company I work at outsources background checks to this lot, having being through it I have to say its good. They even check dates on LinkedIn with the CV and verify with previous employers.

    https://www.sterlingcheck.com/services/criminal-background-checks/


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    #56
    Nermal
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    Corcaigh84 wrote: »
    You really miss out on the gold from Judge Ó Donnabháin's comments re: AIB if you only read the RTE article:

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40071779.html

    I don't understand why we entertain prattle like this from judges, it sounds like something one would hear on a phone-in show.

    Pass the sentence, shut up and take your €160K plus expenses in thankful silence, please.


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    #57
    Baggly
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    Mod

    This case is still before the courts, so this thread is closed until such time as the case concludes.


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    #58
    JustAThought
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    OMM 0000 wrote: »
    No they don't...

    I've worked at Microsoft, Google, LinkedIn... zero background checks.

    They outsource the checking to third party companies - check your contract paperwork - its probably in there in the fine print. Same with eBay & other american companies. That way when something goes wrong they have someone to blame - or sue.


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