Anyone else NOT going insane

skooterblue2

s1ippy wrote: »

Potential Monke - trying to sleep with his wife

*Sharpens Sykes-Fairbairn*

Him and me are gonna dance!!!

BurgundyRose

RobertKK wrote: »

I'm doing fine, but there are plenty of people who are struggling financially from the lockdown and that is not ok.
There is so much suffering going on that we don't see, this is all bigger than just how oneself is doing. We have to remember those who are directly affected by lockdown in a very negative way.

I feel very sorry for business owners who are closed like publicans, hoteliers and other professionals with their own businesses. They would still have outgoing expenditures like electricity bills, insurance and taxes and the PUP would hardly cover living expenses.

BurgundyRose

BurgundyRose wrote: »

I feel very sorry for business owners who are closed like publicans, hoteliers and other professionals with their own businesses. They would still have outgoing expenditures like electricity bills, insurance and taxes and the PUP would hardly cover living expenses.

I do think of all them people too. So many struggling now to make ends meet. Not just business owners but employees. Work means more than money. Of course having a sufficient income is important but there's a sense of worth to be gotten from having a job.

SusieBlue

Antares35 wrote: »

It's a pity, because it was such a nice premise for a thread. And other posters are right, there are loads of threads for people to bleat on about F&F clothing and civil liberties, why did they have to invade this one? It's as if positivity is not allowed.

I was enjoying reading the positivity, even if I can’t really relate.
It was a nice uplifting thread until I saw several holier than thou comments about how anyone finding lockdown difficult needs to just be more positive and adapt and toughen up.
I don’t see how sniping at people who are finding things hard is remotely positive and I don’t think it’s very fair either.
There are a myriad of very relevant and valid reasons that the last 8 months has been a living nightmare for some and I don’t see how comments about how they’re soft, and dismissing it as ’just a few weeks’ of reduced contact’ is remotely helpful.

Surely it’s possible to share how amazing and wonderful lockdown has been without sneering at those who are suffering and finding things difficult?

Airyfairy12

SusieBlue wrote: »

I was enjoying reading the positivity, even if I can’t really relate.
It was a nice uplifting thread until I saw several holier than thou comments about how anyone finding lockdown difficult needs to just be more positive and adapt and toughen up.
I don’t see how sniping at people who are finding things hard is remotely positive and I don’t think it’s very fair either.
There are a myriad of very relevant and valid reasons that the last 8 months has been a living nightmare for some and I don’t see how comments about how they’re soft, and dismissing it as ’just a few weeks’ of reduced contact’ is remotely helpful.

Surely it’s possible to share how amazing and wonderful lockdown has been without sneering at those who are suffering and finding things difficult?

Is that aimed at me Susie Blue?

SusieBlue

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

Is that aimed at me Susie Blue?

It’s aimed at no one specific, a good few posters mentioned it so I wasn’t directing that at anyone in particular at all.

Greentopia

I'm enjoying the lockdowns. I like solitude and peace and quiet being an introvert.
I only go to pubs with the lad when he's here in Ireland so don't miss them. I don't go to restaurants or cafes.
I'm lucky, I work p/t from home and p/t in a public garden which is closed now so have even more time at home.
Am a saver not a spender so saving even more now with no shops open.

I'm using the extra time to do research on a book I want to write so enjoying that. Otherwise just my normal routine.

The only negatives for me are that I haven't seen my friends as much-they're elsewhere in the country- and I'm not able to go to Germany to see my fiancee. Well I can travel... but the situation is too volatile now with that country going back into a soft lockdown.

I'm just ticking along like this until I can travel again next year when hopefully we'll have a vaccine available.

eddie73

I find

Strumms

Aisling(",) wrote: »

I've been doing ok.Lots of walks,tv,jigsaws and yoga.
I've been doing zoom workout classes twice a week and I've been working from home since March.
I don't like it,I find it lonely but I'm fine.Could be far far worse.

Though my boyfriend of 4 years broke up with me yesterday so obviously that'll give me a major drop in mood but this too shall pass....I hope.

Same here apart from the lack of a jigsaw... but PS4 and stuff on iPad makes up a bit...

Zoom gym classes too, they were a bit weird though , not quite the same fulfillment as going to the gym and I miss the equipment and the trainers but it’s better than nothing.

Potential-Monke

skooterblue2 wrote: »

*Sharpens Sykes-Fairbairn*

Him and me are gonna dance!!!

I hope you like to Salsa!

SusieBlue wrote: »

Surely it’s possible to share how amazing and wonderful lockdown has been without sneering at those who are suffering and finding things difficult?

The same can be said for basically any topic with opposing views, but in reality it doesn't happen. Check most gaming related threads on here, and you'll see people being called children for still liking it. Even the WWE thread recently. People like to think they're better than everyone else, and some of those like to try and prove it with snarky comments and put downs. It's just life.

Personally, people have been telling me for years that there's something wrong with me, because I like to spend my spare time gaming, smoking weed, watching anime, etc. Now my lifestyle is basically perfect for a lockdown, and the same people are finding it difficult. Swings and roundabouts as the mother would say.

And I understand if people are trying to be genuinely empathetic to the trials and tribulations of others, however I don't believe any of it is genuine. For someone known to them, maybe, but to random people on the internet it makes literally no difference. Again, I'm sure the well wishes have good intents behind them, but if an OP posted something about how they're feeling, and someone gave a typical empathetic line, and the OP was never heard from again, it would have 0 impact on the repliers life. I just don't believe in faux empathy, and I have very little empathy in general, just unlike others I admit it and don't try to hide behind it.

Anyway, bottom line, all problems are caused by humanity and that will never change. Now, roll on November 19th!

Antares35

Manuel Unimportant Multiplex wrote: »

I do feel from my time reading the threads here that if you don't hate the lockdown then you are almost considered deranged or some such by many posters, which I find strange.

Almost every situation has its winners and losers and I feel this is no different. You have some folks very stressed out but you also have people who are much less stressed out. Take for example a man or woman who commutes hours everyday to get to work (now they work at home and are much less stressed, more time, more money) or a child in creche from 7am to 7pm who is not dropped off at 9 and collected at 5 and so on.


I have to say I feel guilty thinking this but I hear talk about ending level 5 after 4 weeks and I am saying to myself "hopefully they keep level 5 for at least the 6 weeks" as for me I would be expected to go into my office some of the time at least etc and I really would prefer not to. This is not to say I can feel very much for those out of work in the lead up to Christmas etc which is why I feel guilty thinking like this.

I'm the same... I'm on mat leave and had planned to take unpaid leave to extend it so that my little one wouldn't be going to crèche too young. Now with WFH I can actually go back at the end of the 26 weeks and know that all we have to do is get a nanny in a few hours (OH and I can stagger shifts). When they talk about getting people back into the office I find myself flinching

skooterblue2

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I hope you like to Salsa!

Yeah whatever works for you! Do you mind if I lead?

Antares35

SusieBlue wrote: »

I was enjoying reading the positivity, even if I can’t really relate.
It was a nice uplifting thread until I saw several holier than thou comments about how anyone finding lockdown difficult needs to just be more positive and adapt and toughen up.
I don’t see how sniping at people who are finding things hard is remotely positive and I don’t think it’s very fair either.
There are a myriad of very relevant and valid reasons that the last 8 months has been a living nightmare for some and I don’t see how comments about how they’re soft, and dismissing it as ’just a few weeks’ of reduced contact’ is remotely helpful.

Surely it’s possible to share how amazing and wonderful lockdown has been without sneering at those who are suffering and finding things difficult?

Oh, I didn't see any sneering but I agree with you 100percent that there is no need for it. I consider myself to be one of the lucky ones to be honest, and have benefitted from the restrictions, but I literally count my blessings and realise how lucky I am. My partner was whingeing a while ago that he hadn't got his annual rise and I slapped (not literally although I felt like it!) a bit of perspective into him!

Potential-Monke

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Yeah whatever works for you! Do you mind if I lead?

Please do, I'm better at taking directions.

skooterblue2

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Please do, I'm better at taking directions.

Grand so! *Stares at Potential-Monke's chest mesmerised*

Are you ready for the dip at the end?

Graces7

SusieBlue wrote: »

I was enjoying reading the positivity, even if I can’t really relate.
It was a nice uplifting thread until I saw several holier than thou comments about how anyone finding lockdown difficult needs to just be more positive and adapt and toughen up.
I don’t see how sniping at people who are finding things hard is remotely positive and I don’t think it’s very fair either.
There are a myriad of very relevant and valid reasons that the last 8 months has been a living nightmare for some and I don’t see how comments about how they’re soft, and dismissing it as ’just a few weeks’ of reduced contact’ is remotely helpful.

Surely it’s possible to share how amazing and wonderful lockdown has been without sneering at those who are suffering and finding things difficult?

No one is sniping or sneering. They really aren't. You are! The thread asked for our viewpoints and that is what folk are giving.

ArnoldJRimmer

I'm in the US so will give my perspective from here. There have been varying degrees of lockdown where I am, similar to Ireland, but definitely not as strict at times. While I look forward to the day when things can start getting back to normal, I've taken a lot of positives from this,

I've been working from home since March 11th, and thats likely to continue well into next year. Given a choice, I'd make it permanent, haven't been this productive in a long time. I can go for walks, cycles and run errands between meetings, and watch the Champions League during meetings (thats my reward for that extra productivity)

No commute, and no wrapping up on freezing winter days. I'm sleeping and resting more. I am preparing most of my own meals, and eating well.

In terms of socialising, I took up golf during the summer which was great for seeing people in an open environment. Had friends over on the deck for a few beers and barbecue, and now have a fire pit for the winter so I can stay outside a bit longer. I get to talk to friends in Ireland a lot more, have a few beers over WhatsApp etc. And also talk to my parents more as the time zone difference is not as big a deal when I can carve out time during the day.

A lot of people are understandably struggling for various reasons, and a lot of people are sick and have lost loved ones. Its an absolute sj!tshow out there. However, personally, I'm as content as I've been in a while

Graces7

RobertKK wrote: »

I'm doing fine, but there are plenty of people who are struggling financially from the lockdown and that is not ok.
There is so much suffering going on that we don't see, this is all bigger than just how oneself is doing. We have to remember those who are directly affected by lockdown in a very negative way.

With respect. there is a separate thread for this.

Graces7

This was such a light, bright thread until someone blew the candle out.

Over and out

I enjoyed my bit of lockdown fine earlier in the year. Few months of no work did me well. No Covid where I am at the moment so no masks or social distancing etc. All very normal.

eddie73

Deleted User wrote: »

I enjoyed my bit of lockdown fine earlier in the year. Few months of no work did me well. No Covid where I am at the moment so no masks or social distancing etc. All very normal.

Lol, that's interesting.

Anyway, I am enjoying reading during this time.

SusieBlue

Graces7 wrote: »

No one is sniping or sneering. They really aren't. You are! The thread asked for our viewpoints and that is what folk are giving.

You can’t possibly expect to infer people are weak willed and pessimistic for not enjoying the last 8 months, and not expect to hear other people’s viewpoints in return. This is a discussion and that’s how forums work.

I would suggest that if this thread was to be purely positive then those comments should never have been made in the first place, and your issue is with the posters who brought it up, and not me for merely replying to what was already said.

gourcuff

lockdown is fine apart from not being allowed head home or visit family...

Antares35

In an effort to bring some positivity back to the thread , as is the spirit of it, I remember after the first lockdown there was an explosion of bees and butterflies etc. because of reduced traffic volume. And, we need bees for nice things

gourcuff

gourcuff wrote: »

lockdown is fine apart from not being allowed head home or visit family...

See this is the kind of thing I'm breaking tbh and is keeping me sane. I'm not very close with my family anyway so it would be like a monthly visit. Giving myself that freedom gives me enormous peace of mind. For me it's all about framing the situation we're in. I won't actually be visiting many people, but I have the illusion of freedom since I'm giving myself the infrequent option. I'm not all that social to begin with though.

skooterblue2

Antares35 wrote: »

In an effort to bring some positivity back to the thread , as is the spirit of it, I remember after the first lockdown there was an explosion of bees and butterflies etc. because of reduced traffic volume. And, we need bees for nice things

Oh bee still my bee-ating heart. We need birds and bees for all sorts!!!

Milena009

I actually don't mind lockdown too much myself.
WFH, saving down for a deposit, lunch time runs in park with weather allowing
It is bit harder to keep positive throughout with it being dark so early but
It does suck not being able to head up to Dublin to visit the family / friends but doing due with zoom for now.

I dont do much of pubs anyhow so that doesn't effect me.

AllForIt

Yes, not going insane. The only thing I don't like is the shops being closed as I'm a bit of a window shopper. I just came back from an unnecessary walk to Lidl and back but I did buy some rechargeable batteries which I didn't really need cuz I just wanted to look like I was buying something essential.

Church on Tuesday

Honestly, I'm just chilling atm. Had a few fairly manic years there so just soaking up the peace and quiet and recharging the batteries. I live by myself and have done for the last 7 months now and honestly it's great.

I stick to routine and keep busy; workout, run, read, write, cook healthy and chill with a good film in the evening. It's pretty cosy.

Do I miss being able to go out for a few pints and dinner and meet people? of course, but that will all come back in time anyways.

shesty

Graces7 wrote: »

This was such a light, bright thread until someone blew the candle out.

Over and out

But the thing is it is basically asking how people are living when they are not being allowed to live to the their full capacity.It is not really all that light and bright, when you are pretty much asking people are they surviving, rather than living.

My previous post was not actually the Government is taking all our freedom - that is not what I think.But I cannot help standing back and thinking (sadly) how we live in a free country yet we got to a point where we are not allowed see family and friends, go walking where we want, go browse in a shop when we want and similar....and we are sitting here telling each other that that is an ok thing.

My frustration lies with the lack of a more sustainable long term solution besides just locking everything up.

Personally, I am working from home, great because I have kids so I am around for school runs and the like.We are outdoorsy and very lucky where we live, so we are out on beaches and that, keeping busy.As a mum, all my outlets for time for me as an adult are basically gone though.My kids few activities are pared back to practically nothing, and I am frustrated in particular by the fact that swimming has stopped, as I really feel it is a life skill and they are missing out on lessons (also my own swimming is gone and I miss it a lot)I am thankful for the GAA still going (never thought I would say it!!) And they are benefitting hugely at under-age around here as every other activity is closed, so their academy numbers are greatly increased.I find the constant open/close the schools thing very stressful.I am lucky in my job because it is good and stable, but I am now reaching a stage where I miss seeing people in the office a bit.I am not the world's most social person, but I do like to meet friends for dinners and that, and I find it tough being unable to do that.

So it is great for those that are finding it ok, but the reality is that most of us cycle from "ok" to "frustrated and fed up" most weeks -if not days -and it is totally understandable.

ShineOn7

Just 4 pages into this thread and it's wonderful



Note to self: for the sake of your sanity, read this thread more and the Covid subforum less

s8n

wexandproud wrote: »

Luckily im still working although it weather dependent . Few hours a day in the shed mending ''stuff'

is this code for having a **** in the shed ?

skooterblue2

s8n wrote: »

is this code for having a **** in the shed ?

What are you going to do for a wet evening with a stack of vintage FHM's?
Caprice Bourret November 1998

Antares35

shesty wrote: »

But the thing is it is basically asking how people are living when they are not being allowed to live to the their full capacity.It is not really all that light and bright, when you are pretty much asking people are they surviving, rather than living.

My previous post was not actually the Government is taking all our freedom - that is not what I think.But I cannot help standing back and thinking (sadly) how we live in a free country yet we got to a point where we are not allowed see family and friends, go walking where we want, go browse in a shop when we want and similar....and we are sitting here telling each other that that is an ok thing.

My frustration lies with the lack of a more sustainable long term solution besides just locking everything up.

Personally, I am working from home, great because I have kids so I am around for school runs and the like.We are outdoorsy and very lucky where we live, so we are out on beaches and that, keeping busy.As a mum, all my outlets for time for me as an adult are basically gone though.My kids few activities are pared back to practically nothing, and I am frustrated in particular by the fact that swimming has stopped, as I really feel it is a life skill and they are missing out on lessons (also my own swimming is gone and I miss it a lot)I am thankful for the GAA still going (never thought I would say it!!) And they are benefitting hugely at under-age around here as every other activity is closed, so their academy numbers are greatly increased.I find the constant open/close the schools thing very stressful.I am lucky in my job because it is good and stable, but I am now reaching a stage where I miss seeing people in the office a bit.I am not the world's most social person, but I do like to meet friends for dinners and that, and I find it tough being unable to do that.

So it is great for those that are finding it ok, but the reality is that most of us cycle from "ok" to "frustrated and fed up" most weeks -if not days -and it is totally understandable.

Some of us do feel like we are living to our full capacity though, that's the point. Some of us are experiencing a benefit to working from home, having more family time, taking a slightly slower pace and finding joy in simpler things. I've definitely become less materialistic and I really couldn't care less if I never see the inside of a pub or Penney's again.

I understand that not everyone is the same, but some of us ARE doing more than just surviving.

wexandproud

s8n wrote: »

is this code for having a **** in the shed ?

childish remark , if i replied as id like to id be banned .
it's a pity some clowns have to lower the tone of a mostly pleasant thread with stupid nonsense like that . would really make me question of the mental age of some people on here

skooterblue2

wexandproud wrote: »

childish remark , if i replied as id like to id be banned .
it's a pity some clowns have to lower the tone of a mostly pleasant thread with stupid nonsense like that . would really make me question of the mental age of some people on here

In all fairness the post is in the "After Hours" forum. To be fair the rules here are fairly relaxed.

wexandproud

skooterblue2 wrote: »

In all fairness the post is in the "After Hours" forum. To be fair the rules here are fairly relaxed.

i know its after hours with its relaxed rules but its not compulseary to drag every thread down to a low level . Im no prude by any stretch of the imagination but it gets boring seeing the same type of remarks in thread after thread

2lazytogetup

Only advice i can offer is to go outside at least an hour a day. for 40,000 years we went out to hunt/gather. if we dont our body/brain doesnt really like it. might stop the onslaught of insanity.

Church on Tuesday

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Do I miss being able to go out for a few pints and dinner and meet people? of course, but that will all come back in time anyways.

Will it though? Could be years if ever if there is no vaccine or if it proves only 50% effective. I remember when this all started saying this could go on for months and being accused of scaremongering.

I think we need to make a choice soon between existing like this and saving some lives - at the cost of other lives like undetected cancers and heart attacks. About actually putting a long term sustainable plan in place for the HSE. And a better strategy if this happens again like seal the borders immediately. But these are all pipe dreams.

Xtrail14

2lazytogetup wrote: »

Only advice i can offer is to go outside at least an hour a day. for 40,000 years we went out to hunt/gather. if we dont our body/brain doesnt really like it. might stop the onslaught of insanity.

Have a bear grylls moment and drink some of your own urine.

mayo londoner

Main thing I've taken from COVID and the lockdowns is that it made me realise how much I value my free time and work/life balance. As a result I quit my job a few weeks ago as they wanted me back in office full time when things cool down a bit for no explanation, despised the company and the people I work with so happy out, starting a new job next week that will have way more flexibility when things get back to normal and will be less stressful with a relaxed work environment, I'm done with lining Director's pockets for next to no thanks!

I've been fortunate to be able to move home since April for the first time since I was 17 and made me realise how much I took the place for granted, long walks in the sea air in the evening are great for the noggin. Spend much more time with the parents (although the mother is COVID obsessed) and with my young nieces which I wouldn't have able to do if I was still stuck in an office in Dublin. As others have alluded to, I've also saved more money and as a result I'm about a year ahead of schedule now towards buying a house with the missus.

Downsides, been a month since I saw the missus (was 11 weeks during first lockdown), miss playing sport, travel and going for a pint with friends. But I've found ways to keep myself occupied and value my own free time, would sure as hell say I'm not going insane anyways.

If there's one thing I would hope people would mostly re-evaluate from these lockdowns is that work is not the be all and end all, fair enough it pays the bills but how much money do you really need at the end of the day? It was sad to see in my previous company, people working till 10 o clock at night for no apparent reason, no time in lieu or overtime, no perks, lumped with more work/stress if they did get promoted, sacrificing family time, their own free time, all in aid of lining directors pockets at the end of the day. Some of these were probably nice genuine people, but as a result of work came across as absoluute dickheads, **** that, life is for living.

rtron

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Genuine cases are ok but all this bull**** “I can’t go to the pub/gym/party/match and I should be allowed mental health mental health mental health” is nauseating. Nation of entitled twats who have now been given a catch-all excuse for everything.

It's only now we are finding out we are all mental now that we have had time to think about it.

Church on Tuesday

Deleted User wrote: »

Will it though? Could be years if ever if there is no vaccine or if it proves only 50% effective. I remember when this all started saying this could go on for months and being accused of scaremongering.

I think we need to make a choice soon between existing like this and saving some lives - at the cost of other lives like undetected cancers and heart attacks. About actually putting a long term sustainable plan in place for the HSE. And a better strategy if this happens again like seal the borders immediately. But these are all pipe dreams.

It certainly will. I'm not a scientist but there is a natural beginning, middle and end to these kinds of pandemics. Again perspective is needed here. The Black Plague and Spanish Flu were worse times to be alive for basically everyone. We should be extremely thankful this is not as severe.

It could be another year or even two before a vaccine, a viable vaccine that is, is ready to go for the general populace. I would personally be of the opinion that we simply have to live alongside this disease until then.

The tricky thing is that this disease is only mostly fatal to a certain group (with some outliers), hence why the majority of people are naturally getting fatigued. The HSE had some 6 months to get ready for the inevitable 2nd wave and they did not. As a result people needing medical attention for other cases will suffer and die. I think the Government should be made aware of that strongly from people right now and in the future. They simply sat on their hands.

The blunt reality for this generation, who have had it pretty good up until now post WW2, is that this is a challenge that simply has to be faced head on. A lot of the time in modern times, humans think these kind of events are isolated to history books when this is just simply the latest challenge facing humanity. And there will be many others in the centuries to come.

It's getting a bit repetitious but again, stay the course, check in with your loved ones, do your civic duty and practice good and basic hygiene, keep yourself in decent mental and physical shape; if most continue to do this we will be fine.

SB71

Personally missing the pubs badly and im dying to go to a club or rave, asides from that just bored, keeping fit and eating well and taking walks,etc but every bleedin day is almost the same,history will show us that lock downs will cause much more devastation and misery than coronaviris ever did, i know of some people who are depressed to bits with huge financial worries and feel theres no way out.

SB71

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

It certainly will. I'm not a scientist but there is a natural beginning, middle and end to these kinds of pandemics. Again perspective is needed here. The Black Plague and Spanish Flu were worse times to be alive for basically everyone. We should be extremely thankful this is not as severe.

It could be another year or even two before a vaccine, a viable vaccine that is, is ready to go for the general populace. I would personally be of the opinion that we simply have to live alongside this disease until then.

The tricky thing is that this disease is only mostly fatal to a certain group (with some outliers), hence why the majority of people are naturally getting fatigued. The HSE had some 6 months to get ready for the inevitable 2nd wave and they did not. As a result people needing medical attention for other cases will suffer and die. I think the Government should be made aware of that strongly from people right now and in the future. They simply sat on their hands.

The blunt reality for this generation, who have had it pretty good up until now post WW2, is that this is a challenge that simply has to be faced head on. A lot of the time in modern times, humans think these kind of events are isolated to history books when this is just simply the latest challenge facing humanity. And there will be many others in the centuries to come.

It's getting a bit repetitious but again, stay the course, check in with your loved ones, do your civic duty and practice good and basic hygiene, keep yourself in decent mental and physical shape; if most continue to do this we will be fine.

agree with everything you say here.

AllForIt

I'm over the moon with the lack of signs of xmas and I can see what a normal November looks like without all the glittery things. It's joyous.

I might actually put up a xmas tree for the fist time in years a few days before xmas because for once I won't be sick of the sight of them by that time.

mikekerry

AllForIt wrote: »

I'm over the moon with the lack of signs of xmas and I can see what a normal November looks like without all the glittery things. It's joyous.

I might actually put up a xmas tree for the fist time in years a few days before xmas because for once I won't be sick of the sight of them by that time.

Oh for gods sake there is nothing normal about this November. Joyous my arse.
In a few months you'll be begging for one of the old November's

SB71

im taking the day off on December 1st and getting absolutely mouldy drunk

skooterblue2

SB71 wrote: »

im taking the day off on December 1st and getting absolutely mouldy drunk

If you must then may I recommend:

A Green Spot whiskey, for a mellow taste

A Connemara whiskey for a peaty taste

or a Woodford Reserve for a Tennesse Whiskey?

Kindly do it in good company and remember alcohol kills the virus.

AllForIt

AllForIt wrote: »

I'm over the moon with the lack of signs of xmas and I can see what a normal November looks like without all the glittery things. It's joyous.

I might actually put up a xmas tree for the fist time in years a few days before xmas because for once I won't be sick of the sight of them by that time.

I'm with you. I'm a bit of a grinch so glad the build up to christmas has been muted. Silver lining and all that.