Three dead as woman beheaded in France

Danzy

Deleted User wrote: »

https://amp.dw.com/en/belgian-teacher-suspended-over-prophet-muhammad-cartoon/a-55454081Belgian teacher suspended over Prophet Muhammad cartoon

So they win.

biko

biko wrote: »

Brazil names Nice knife attack victim as Simone Barreto Silva
Woman, 44, had lived in France for three decades and worked as carer for elderly
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/30/brazil-names-nice-knife-attack-victim-as-simone-barreto-silva

RIP

Reminds me Yosuke Sasaki who was killed in Dundalk by another fine presumably doctor/engineer. Tragic when people who travel halfway across the world to actually improve their lives are slain by scum ferried in by their host country.

Danzy wrote: »

So they win.

Yup. It's too late already tbh, the self-loathing of Europeans is the death of the culture. I've noticed that all my friends on Facebook etc. who had a great time with Everybody Draw Mohammed Day a decade or so ago are awfully quiet these days.

Sand

Well, one side of the dispute is thinks they can win by childishly trolling Islamic beliefs whilst living in an increasingly Islamic Europe. The other side of the dispute will murder those who offend them. It can only go one way without a change in mindset.

screamer

Danzy wrote: »

So they win.

Belgium is a basket case altogether when it comes to Muslims. They started to get elected into councils there, next thing they wanted Arabic declared an official language of Belgium and even wanted the street signs to Arabic.

Frankie Machine

Sand wrote: »

Well, one side of the dispute is thinks they can win by childishly trolling Islamic beliefs whilst living in an increasingly Islamic Europe. The other side of the dispute will murder those who offend them. It can only go one way without a change in mindset.

The change required is not of mindset.

It is of demographics.

Frankie Machine

Deleted User wrote: »

https://amp.dw.com/en/belgian-teacher-suspended-over-prophet-muhammad-cartoon/a-55454081Belgian teacher suspended over Prophet Muhammad cartoon

Aah, Molenbeek. Very poor, highly Muslim district. Home of Salah Abdeslam, he of the Paris attacks of 2015.

Sand

Frankie Machine wrote: »

The change required is not of mindset.

It is of demographics.

Mindset is more important. Europeans have yet to be outnumbered in their own homelands so they have the numbers. It's mindset that's allowing the conditions for these attacks to occur.

TRANQUILLO

Frankie Machine wrote: »

Aah, Molenbeek. Very poor, highly Muslim district. Home of Salah Abdeslam, he of the Paris attacks of 2015.

Molenbeek is an absolute toilet.

Himpy5

[Deleted User] wrote: »

https://amp.dw.com/en/belgian-teacher-suspended-over-prophet-muhammad-cartoon/a-55454081Belgian teacher suspended over Prophet Muhammad cartoon

Harsh but saved his life

Himpy5

jmreire wrote: »

That will all depend on what version of Islam the local Imam is following. And as mentioned above, not all Imam's or indeed Muslims in general are blood thirsty. But having said that, Christians and other minorities in Islamic Country's are often treated very badly. For a Muslim, the very fact that he is a Muslim, automatically make's him superior to non-Muslims. And this of course changes his attitude when dealing with non-Muslims.

It's too horrific to even remember what happened to the Yazidis in the last few years
We could be next

GT89

screamer wrote: »

Belgium is a basket case altogether when it comes to Muslims. They started to get elected into councils there, next thing they wanted Arabic declared an official language of Belgium and even wanted the street signs to Arabic.

There is a Sharia Law party that ran candiates for election in Belgium

Himpy5

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Reminds me Yosuke Sasaki who was killed in Dundalk by another fine presumably doctor/engineer. Tragic when people who travel halfway across the world to actually improve their lives are slain by scum ferried in by their host country.

Yup. It's too late already tbh, the self-loathing of Europeans is the death of the culture. I've noticed that all my friends on Facebook etc. who had a great time with Everybody Draw Mohammed Day a decade or so ago are awfully quiet these days.

Kind of sick to repeat this but a good friend of mine is a songwriter /musician

Last week he sent me his new song about the oppression of muslims and how evil trump is

The very next day the lady was beheaded in the church in France.

He has maintained radio silence since
Awkward

Sand

Sand wrote: »

Well, one side of the dispute is thinks they can win by childishly trolling Islamic beliefs whilst living in an increasingly Islamic Europe. The other side of the dispute will murder those who offend them. It can only go one way without a change in mindset.

I agree. We shouldn't childishly troll them. We should outright tell them their belief that they are entitled to kill for being offended is not acceptable and we should mercilessly make fun of that belief.

GT89

Frankie Machine wrote: »

Aah, Molenbeek. Very poor, highly Muslim district. Home of Salah Abdeslam, he of the Paris attacks of 2015.

The South Circular Road, Clanbrassil Street area of Dublin is quickly becoming like the Molenbeek of Dublin

Himpy5

Himpy5 wrote: »

Kind of sick to repeat this but a good friend of mine is a songwriter /musician

Last week he sent me his new song about the oppression of muslims and how evil trump is

The very next day the lady was beheaded in the church in France.

He has maintained radio silence since
Awkward

He should release it. I mean that guy must've faced some incredible oppression from the kafir in the space of two days to drive him to it.

440Hertz

Kaybaykwah wrote: »

I can only imagine Turkey joining the EU club, with Schengen. Poor Europe.

Oddly enough it was always the U.K. pushing that. Even after Brexit they lobbied for it while they were still in the EU.

Given the Greek and Cypriot views on Turkey and the fact it’s drifting away from being a liberal democracy and into autocratic rule, as well as the issues it has been having upsetting NATO, throwing agressive statements at the French and so on, it’s very very unlikely Turkey will be an EU member.

Himpy5

[Deleted User] wrote: »

He should release it. I mean that guy must've faced some incredible oppression from the kafir in the space of two days to drive him to it.

I have a copy of the track on my phone
But I shouldn't release it

Himpy5

Himpy5 wrote: »

I have a copy of the track on my phone
But I shouldn't release it

I think you should. You'll lose some friends though. :pac:

Himpy5

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I think you should. You'll lose some friends though. :pac:

Honestly very tempted but not worth losing a friend over

Himpy5

Himpy5 wrote: »

Honestly very tempted but not worth losing a friend over

If a load of people have a copy then send it to me and you'll have plausible deniability. :pac:

Himpy5

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If a load of people have a copy then send it to me and you'll have plausible deniability. :pac:

If you want to hear it I'll try send it to you by pm
It's only a few mb in size
For your ears only /private and confidential /

John Frank Wilson

Himpy5 wrote: »

Honestly very tempted but not worth losing a friend over

Himpy5 wrote: »

If you want to hear it I'll try send it to you by pm
It's only a few mb in size
For your ears only /private and confidential /

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGwIaL0jOUg

Kaybaykwah

The Quebec government passed a law a while back to prevent people wearing ostensible religious signs when working in civil service. So, teachers, lawyers, judges, etc, can't wear a crucifix, a skullcap or turban or hijab when serving the public in a government related function. There was a lot of fuss about that. When I read the opinion section of Canadian papers, Quebec is almost unilaterally dissed as racist because it is viewed as an anti-muslim gesture. But the comments section is more nuanced. There is a lot of Quebec bashing in general, but a lot of Canadians respect the stand on this issue and many wish the province they live in did the same. Lol

Tipperary animal lover

https://twitter.com/i/status/1323101148937551872
From Canada over the weekend

john123470

Tipperary animal lover wrote: »

https://twitter.com/i/status/1323101148937551872
From Canada over the weekend

There can never be "dialogue" with these filthy hairy excuses for human beings. Whatever their prophet / invisible man in the sky is selling, it aint Love

Meanwhile, we really need to monitor the activities of his counterparts here in Ireland. A lot of these folk support the barbaric murders in France.

Those who do not shd be out marching on the streets - declaring these savage acts are not carried out in the name of islam - they shd disown it if they don't condone it.

I don't hear too many muslim voices denouncing this savagery and that has me worried.

What is really happening behind the closed doors of Irish mosques ?
The silence is deafening

Cordell

Those who do not shd be out marching on the streets - declaring these savage acts are not carried out in the name of islam

They tried it once here, very few turned up, and the ones that did turn up were assaulted by their own kind.

jmayo

Tipperary animal lover wrote: »

https://twitter.com/i/status/1323101148937551872
From Canada over the weekend

Just imagine the outcry from the media if someone had said that about one of the victims of the Christchurch mosque attack.

I would hope Canadian authorities finally grow a set of balls and send the fooker home to the shi*hole from whence he came in South Africa.

Why the fook are they tolerating this guy spouting hatred since the early 2000s.
Way back in 2005 he was under investigation for hate speech as he referred to Jews as "the brothers of the monkeys and the swine."

Victoria was such a lovely city.

Tipperary animal lover

Tipperary animal lover wrote: »

https://twitter.com/i/status/1323101148937551872
From Canada over the weekend

Why is he not in jail for incitement to kill? In Arabic he is saying to annihilate all non believers?

keano_afc

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Why is he not in jail for incitement to kill? In Arabic he is saying to annihilate all non believers?

In Trudeau's Canada he's probably seen as an austere religious scholar.

john123470

Cordell wrote: »

They tried it once here, very few turned up, and the ones that did turn up were assaulted by their own kind.

A very worrying situation then. We are housing potential terrorists with no checks in place.

We've made them welcome, flung open the gates of the national sports ground (to allow them celebrate their religious festival of eid) and, in return, we live in ignorance and fear of what really takes place in the bigger mosques eg Clonskeagh mosque in Dublin.

As mentioned above, any muslims that do come out and protest acts of savagery as those committed in France, face physical assault from other muslims ..

Are we - the hosts - seen as "filthy excuses for human beings" as well ..? ..

I despair

Montage of Feck

Strazdas wrote: »

Such a referendum now would be deeply, deeply divisive and would provoke strong anti-immigrant sentiments. The atmosphere would be toxic.

There were reports of Polish people and others being verbally abused on the streets in Britain in the wake of the Brexit vote and being told to "go home" : and that wasn't even supposed to be an immigration referendum.

I have honestly never heard a bad word said where about the Polish here.

Ash.J.Williams

Himpy5 wrote: »

Kind of sick to repeat this but a good friend of mine is a songwriter /musician

Last week he sent me his new song about the oppression of muslims and how evil trump is

The very next day the lady was beheaded in the church in France.

He has maintained radio silence since
Awkward

Tell that guy he has a hit!

Ash.J.Williams

GT89 wrote: »

The South Circular Road, Clanbrassil Street area of Dublin is quickly becoming like the Molenbeek of Dublin

no it isn't

Cordell

We are housing potential terrorists

Not potential. There were a few with links with the islamic terrorists organizations, you think Lisa Smith became one by using facebook?
There were no attacks so far, but we have everything else, make no mistake.

https://www.thejournal.ie/jihadist-extremism-ireland-4833339-Oct2019/

ceadaoin.

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Why purposely try to upset people, its only women not showing their hair and bodies and plenty of ways around it.
Why purposely try to upset people, its only gay couples showing affection in public and plenty of ways around it.
Why purposely try to upset people, its only consuming alcohol in a bar and plenty of ways around it
Why purposely try to upset people, its only going to church and plenty of ways around it.
Why purposely try to upset people, its only being Jewish and plenty of ways around it.

This is the road you go down when you start trying to appease extremists. All of those things and more would be "asking for trouble". Nothing is good enough for them but a total erasure of the western way of life. Is that ok with you? Also, victim blame much?

Many devout catholics find abortion, skimpy clothes on women, women spending time alone with men they aren't related to, sex before marriage etc etc offensive. Should we ban those too to spare their blushes (I'm agreeing with the orignal post) ?

john123470

john123470 wrote: »

There can never be "dialogue" with these filthy hairy excuses for human beings. Whatever their prophet / invisible man in the sky is selling, it aint Love

Meanwhile, we really need to monitor the activities of his counterparts here in Ireland. A lot of these folk support the barbaric murders in France.

Those who do not shd be out marching on the streets - declaring these savage acts are not carried out in the name of islam - they shd disown it if they don't condone it.

I don't hear too many muslim voices denouncing this savagery and that has me worried.

What is really happening behind the closed doors of Irish mosques ?
The silence is deafening

I don't remember any marches in Dublin protesting IRA bombings in the UK, or if they were, they didn't make the news.

Ash.J.Williams

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't remember any marches in Dublin protesting IRA bombings in the UK, or if they were, they didn't make the news.

Very little vocal opposition in the 80's and those who did where ignored

babaracus

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't remember any marches in Dublin protesting IRA bombings in the UK, or if they were, they didn't make the news.

You must have a poor memory then. Peace 93 garnered world wide attention and was never off the news here at the time.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't remember any marches in Dublin protesting IRA bombings in the UK, or if they were, they didn't make the news.

Do you think it would be the same today? If the IRA did restart their bombings of civilians, don't you think we'd be seeing an outpouring of opinions online, social media, and/or marches in the streets.

Times have changed. I doubt the IRA would receive much support now for that kind of behavior, and we'd see more pressure on the government to act against them.

cal naughton

GT89 wrote: »

The South Circular Road, Clanbrassil Street area of Dublin is quickly becoming like the Molenbeek of Dublin

I have often passed the mosque on the SCR at Friday prayers time. There is always two Garda cars with four officers present so a huge resource at work. All happened after events in new Zealand

I must ask the guards the next time are they there to protect the worshippers against the citizens or the citizens against the worshippers following events of last week.

Danzy

Lot of people that they are looking at as well.

john123470

cal naughton wrote: »

I must ask the guards the next time are they there to protect the worshippers against the citizens or the citizens against the worshippers following events of last week.

- they are there to protect the worshippers of course. This is Ireland

High time to take a closer look at the bigger mosques here though. There has to be accountability, transparency or we will end up in the situation the French find themselves in.

If muslims from a Dublin mosque can be assaulted by their own for protesting the murder of "unbelievers" then there is something very rotten afoot right here under our noses ..

We all know very well what this rot is ..

CharlesMartel

cal naughton wrote: »

I have often passed the mosque on the SCR at Friday prayers time. There is always two Garda cars with four officers present so a huge resource at work. All happened after events in new Zealand

I must ask the guards the next time are they there to protect the worshippers against the citizens or the citizens against the worshippers following events of last week.

SCR is Wahhabi, Clonskeagh is Islamic Brotherhood(head sharia court for Europe) and Blanchardstown(smallest and UAE funded) are the true moderates. All are Sunni mosques

Gervais08

I’ll never forget the time I was verbally threatened (and everything but physically assaulted) by a (male) colleague from the Middle East.

Another worker said “he was upset because you were flaunting your behaviour” - I’d been to the rugby with a few male pals and had several beers.

This **** is everywhere, appeasement didn’t work with Chamberlain in the 40s and it won’t work now.

CharlesMartel

Gervais08 wrote: »

I’ll never forget the time I was verbally threatened (and everything but physically assaulted) by a (male) colleague from the Middle East.

Another worker said “he was upset because you were flaunting your behaviour” - I’d been to the rugby with a few male pals and had several beers.

This **** is everywhere, appeasement didn’t work with Chamberlain in the 40s and it won’t work now.

To him you were just a woman and a dhimmi

Frankie Machine

Let's not allow posters to sideline this important issue with irrelevant and non-equivalent guff about the IRA.

Ignore the red herrings !

Gervais08

CharlesMartel wrote: »

To him you were just a woman and a dhimmi

Yeah exactly - and another colleague is an Uber feminist and yet sided with him!!

CharlesMartel

Gervais08 wrote: »

Yeah exactly - and another colleague is an Uber feminist and yet sided with him!!

Hierarchy of victimhood. The higher the place on the victimhood ladder the more the virtue. Islamist>LGBT>women. Turkeys voting for christmas

TomTomTim

jmayo wrote: »

Just imagine the outcry from the media if someone had said that about one of the victims of the Christchurch mosque attack.

I would hope Canadian authorities finally grow a set of balls and send the fooker home to the shi*hole from whence he came in South Africa.

Why the fook are they tolerating this guy spouting hatred since the early 2000s.
Way back in 2005 he was under investigation for hate speech as he referred to Jews as "the brothers of the monkeys and the swine."

Victoria was such a lovely city.

No chance in hell. Canada is one of the worst progressive countries in the world. Justin had this to say about the recent attacks:

Learning from Macron's mistake, Trudeau distanced himself from any direct statement in the press conference and said freedom of expression does not come without limits. "We owe it to ourselves to act with respect for others and to seek not to arbitrarily or unnecessarily injure those with whom we are sharing a society and a planet," Trudeau said

He also urged people to be more aware of their words and actions towards fellow humans. "In a pluralist, diverse and respectful society like ours, we owe it to ourselves to be aware of the impact of our words, of our actions on others, particularly these communities and populations who still experience a great deal of discrimination," he said. Trudeau also added that people need to have these complex conversations in a very responsible way.

john123470

Gervais08 wrote: »

This **** is everywhere, appeasement didn’t work with Chamberlain in the 40s and it won’t work now.

This cancer has to be rooted out. We have to mask up for covid but need a stab proof vest to attend church.
Unheard of .. all under the guise of religious freedom

We have got one very sick elephant in the bedroom and its not going anywhere ..