Temporary Clerical Officer 2021 in the Civil and Public Service (Please read OP)

furrybones

What would happen if you are still in a contract from the 2020 campaign and you do well enough in the 2021 campaign that your OOM is reached before your current TCO contract ends?

Nigel Fairservice

furrybones wrote: »

What would happen if you are still in a contract from the 2020 campaign and you do well enough in the 2021 campaign that your OOM is reached before your current TCO contract ends?

You take the job with the longer contract.

Nigel Fairservice

Mike Foxtrot wrote: »

I dont believe they are "Open" in that way. I reckon they are "specific purpose" aka a contract of uncertain duration, like what they use for maternity leave etc.

The DEASP fought the Unions in court to prevent the TCO's in the public services card section becoming permanent. I would be surprised if they risked going down that road again.

I’d say DEASP are well aware of this. I know someone that spent nearly 4 years in DEASP and they were let go just shy of the 4 years. They later became permanent through the CO competition but it had nothing to do with DEASP.

Banana Republic 1

furrybones wrote: »

What would happen if you are still in a contract from the 2020 campaign and you do well enough in the 2021 campaign that your OOM is reached before your current TCO contract ends?

I’d wouldn’t worry until you are offered something it could take m ok nths for them to get to that stage

Green farmer

Any idea how long it will be until stage 1 results will be out ?

Banana Republic 1

Green farmer wrote: »

Any idea how long it will be until stage 1 results will be out ?

Keep breathing in the meantime lad.

Banana Republic 1

I am me123 wrote: »

Does that suggest that (in my case) that there may be a chance I could be kept on after the 8 weeks? In DEASP.

If you’ve been told eight probably none but you never know in this climate

November Golf

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

Was that recent, I was in a psc section last year, half the staff where on there fourth year and I heard no mention of that. There was only two full time people out of 12.

Before I left there was a reshuffling of entire Permanent staff and 1 person came from elsewhere. None of the permanents where happy about the moves

There were a number of attempts since about 2016. I think the most recent was case taken to the WRC in Dec 2019.

One point the DEASP argued: the four year rule only applies if a persons contract was renewed or extended at least twice in the four years.

As these so called "open contracts" have no specified end-date, the issue of renewal or extend doesn't occur. They can run for as long as the objective grounds exist.

November Golf

Nigel Fairservice wrote: »

I’d say DEASP are well aware of this. I know someone that spent nearly 4 years in DEASP and they were let go just shy of the 4 years. They later became permanent through the CO competition but it had nothing to do with DEASP.

Most TCO's in the DSP seem to have got "open contracts" during the pandemic. I accept some TCO, in years gone by, have gotten good lengths however they are few and far between.

I think it unreasonable to believe, or to let others believe, they will get four years or possibly become permanent, when they are only guaranteed 8 weeks. If anything, its likely some will be gone by christmas.

The fact the person you know was let go just shy of four years only reiterates my point; "TCO" and "gold" should not be used in the same sentence.

furrybones

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

I’d wouldn’t worry until you are offered something it could take m ok nths for them to get to that stage

Oh, I'm not worrying about it, I was just curious what would happen in that situation.

I was extremely lucky to get a long contract from the 2020 campaign and it still has some months to run.

Tiafleur

Hopefully we get the stage 1 results today! 🀞ðŸ¼

upinthesky

Tiafleur wrote: »

Hopefully we get the stage 1 results today! 🀞ðŸ¼

I thought they wouldn’t be out until early December?

November Golf

upinthesky wrote: »

I thought they wouldn’t be out until early December?

They never specified on the results but they intended to start interviews in early December so its possible.

The invites to interview can only be sent out after the results are issued and they would normally give about a weeks notice for the interview itself. Even if the result are issued today, the first invite wouldn't be until next week and they would only have two weeks to conduct interviews before christmas.

Irishphotodesk

Tiafleur wrote: »

Hopefully we get the stage 1 results today! ��ðŸ¼

Did anyone get results? I haven't.

Strazdas

Mike Foxtrot wrote: »

They never specified on the results but they intended to start interviews in early December so its possible.

The invites to interview can only be sent out after the results are issued and they would normally give about a weeks notice for the interview itself. Even if the result are issued today, the first invite wouldn't be until next week and they would only have two weeks to conduct interviews before christmas.

Put back a little maybe? Doesn't sound like they'll have much time to get many done before Christmas.

November Golf

Strazdas wrote: »

Put back a little maybe? Doesn't sound like they'll have much time to get many done before Christmas.

Well I mean the interviews in December will likely be for select counties/locations just to get a panel ready to start in early January, they will be interviews all the way through 2021 as normal.

Also, If they do allow those who have already been TCO to skip the interview stage, that will reduce the number of candidates that need to be interviewed.

Tiafleur

Irishphotodesk wrote: »

Did anyone get results? I haven't.

Nope, not yet. I was hoping it’d be today but maybe it’ll be next week.

Banana Republic 1

Tiafleur wrote: »

Nope, not yet. I was hoping it’d be today but maybe it’ll be next week.

There all on track and trace duty

Green farmer

It will be 2 weeks tomorrow, since the window for the online testing finished. Do they ever release results mid week ? Or would this friday be a possibility ?

newbie18892

Green farmer wrote: »

It will be 2 weeks tomorrow, since the window for the online testing finished. Do they ever release results mid week ? Or would this friday be a possibility ?

I'm betting it'll be this Friday. Seems to usually be the way

Red Honeysuckle

There out

furrybones

Just got mine!

Banana Republic 1

Got mine 77 in cork for what that’s worth

HLK316

316 in Cork for me.

NomadicGray

Banana Republic 1 wrote: »

Got mine 77 in cork for what that’s worth

I was in the 90s for the 2020 panel and got offered a contract in June beginning in August. So I would be think it's not a bad place in the order of merit.

Sophie717

189 in Dublin - it's my first time going through the process. Is that result any good?

Irishphotodesk

48th in Meath order of merit.

newbie18892

Spoke too soon. Results are out. I'm around 1000 in Dublin. Hoping something comes of it

Ahem123

That's a very good result. Sophie717

Banana Republic 1

HLK316 wrote: »

316 in Cork for me.

A chunk of people will pull out so it’s not a bad place.

dried peanuts

78 in Cork. Good or bad?

Banana Republic 1

Sophie717 wrote: »

189 in Dublin - it's my first time going through the process. Is that result any good?

Yes

channing90

295 in limerick is that any good ?

HillyMammoth

In the 90s for Dublin. Absolutely delighted and a little confused as for previous civil and public service campaigns I've placed in the 1000s for a smaller county. Can't tell what I did differently this time around.

Does anyone think there will be much of a shift in the OOM following interviews/checking of references? I was previously a TCO so will my stage 2 result be solely based on that reference?

Red Honeysuckle

HillyMammoth wrote: »

In the 90s for Dublin. Absolutely delighted and a little confused as for previous civil and public service campaigns I've placed in the 1000s for a smaller county. Can't tell what I did differently this time around.

Does anyone think there will be much of a shift in the OOM following interviews/checking of references? I was previously a TCO so will my stage 2 result be solely based on that reference?

There was no change last year from OOM once you passed interview.
Assume the same this year. Only difference is some may not need to interview.

Banana Republic 1

HillyMammoth wrote: »

In the 90s for Dublin. Absolutely delighted and a little confused as for previous civil and public service campaigns I've placed in the 1000s for a smaller county. Can't tell what I did differently this time around.

Does anyone think there will be much of a shift in the OOM following interviews/checking of references? I was previously a TCO so will my stage 2 result be solely based on that reference?

It has been said that previous tco MAY skip the interview stage but I’d personally keep breathing in the meantime, I’ve done tcos also.

Shanehoof1000

Hi , I have received an oom of 87 for Galway, would there be much hope of receiving anything?
Thanks 😊

K00222043

Got 180 for TCO in Limerick. Is that good or bad? Never done this before and don't know if that is a good result.

Red Honeysuckle

Shanehoof1000 wrote: »

Hi , I have received an oom of 87 for Galway, would there be much hope of receiving anything?
Thanks 😊

Previous years I'd have said without a doubt yes once you passed the interview.
After this year, no idea. It really depends on what happens with future lockdowns etc.

D321

I just got my results and am 41 on OOM for Dublin. Does anyone know which departments take on TCOs? Despite the obvious ones such as DEASP? Thanks

JPW1979

My 18 year old daughter finished in category c no. 2093 in order of merit for dublin.I know its a big number but would anyone know her chances?

Shanehoof1000

Red Honeysuckle wrote: »

Previous years I'd have said without a doubt yes once you passed the interview.
After this year, no idea. It really depends on what happens with future lockdowns etc.

Thanks for the reply ,ya it's hard to know with all this going on.

D321

JPW1979 wrote: »

My 18 year old daughter finished in category c no. 2093 in order of merit for dublin.I know its a big number but would anyone know her chances?

She will be called but it may take up to 6 months or longer before they come to her. That's my experience with that kind of number.

Mollywolly

channing90 wrote: »

295 in limerick is that any good ?

K00222043 wrote: »

Got 180 in Limerick. Is that good or bad?

I had an OOM of 147 in Limerick for the 2020 TCO campaign and passed my interview in February but heard nothing since.

Now I have an OOM of 223 so it's just a waiting game. Sorry I can't be more helpful to you guys

JPW1979

D321 wrote: »

She will be called but it may take up to 6 months or longer before they come to her. That's my experience with that kind of number.

Thank you for your reply, fingers crossed.

Red Honeysuckle

Mollywolly wrote: »

I had an OOM of 147 in Limerick for the 2020 TCO campaign and passed my interview in February but heard nothing since.

Now I have an OOM of 223 so it's just a waiting game. Sorry I can't be more helpful to you guys

I was below 30 in Limerick last year. Was offered a job in September.

Green farmer

Red Honeysuckle wrote: »

I was below 30 in Limerick last year. Was offered a job in September.

This year has been extraordinary in every sense of the word. Probably bears no resemblance the normal speed of things. If the vaccine sorts things out, it will be interesting to see how it moves. Must be alot of pent up demand, from roles left vacant through the pandemic ? I didnt get any phone call either in 2020 , but hopeful for 2021 !!!

Daz_

Hi . Anyone have a view on how likely it would be to get temp position extended or progression into a permanent position ?

Banana Republic 1

D321 wrote: »

I just got my results and am 41 on OOM for Dublin. Does anyone know which departments take on TCOs? Despite the obvious ones such as DEASP? Thanks

Every department

Banana Republic 1

Daz_ wrote: »

Hi . Anyone have a view on how likely it would be to get temp position extended or progression into a permanent position ?

In normal years very unlikely