Who is Ireland's worst journalist?

COVID

Halenvaneddie wrote: »

That cycling dude Paul Kimmage
Bitter and sour

Two things.

1) Love 'That cycling dude', very Lebowski!

2) I think Kimmage deserves not a little credit for his unrelenting criticism of drug-cheat Lance Armstrong...long before it was the popular thing to say.

Nexytus

storker wrote: »

it's not his job to offer solutions.

storker wrote: »

I'm not saying that journalists shouldn't offer solutions

I'm glad you've found where you were wrong there.

storker

Nexytus wrote: »

I'm glad you've found where you were wrong there.

These two statements are not contradictory. See if you can figure out why not...

Nexytus

storker wrote: »

These two statements are not contradictory. See if you can figure out why not...

It's not hard to figure out that you backtracked into safe vague territory when you couldn't stand over your point.

vriesmays

The one who bought the Celtic Tiger apartment.

storker

Nexytus wrote: »

It's not hard to figure out that you backtracked into safe vague territory when you couldn't stand over your point.

So you couldn't figure it out. Pity, but hardly surprising. Let me put it another way. There's a difference between:

1. It is not a requirement for journalists to offer solutions

and

2. Journalists must not offer solutions.

I take position 1 i.e. if a journalist wants to propose a solution, then great, but the lack of a solution does not mean that the issue identified by a journalist can just be airily dismisses with a vague handwave.

But I suspect you knew that.

Nexytus

storker wrote: »

So you couldn't figure it out. Pity, but hardly surprising. Let me put it another way. There's a difference between:

1. It is not a requirement for journalists to offer solutions

and

2. Journalists must not offer solutions.

I take position 1 i.e. if a journalist wants to propose a solution, then great, but the lack of a solution does not mean that the issue identified by a journalist can just be airily dismisses with a vague handwave.

But I suspect you knew that.

You addressed a post that said a particular journalist never offered solutions.
You defended the journalist's approach saying it wasn't his job.

You couldn't stand over that so you changed to well he can occasionally not offer a solution and it's not against the law to not.

As I said backtracked.

storker

Nexytus wrote: »

You addressed a post that said a particular journalist never offered solutions.
You defended the journalist's approach saying it wasn't his job.

You couldn't stand over that so you changed to well he can occasionally not offer a solution and it's not against the law to not.

As I said backtracked.

Well, I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you. You're own your own there. :rolleyes:

Nexytus

storker wrote: »

Well, I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you. You're own your own there. :rolleyes:

Try not to mess up your sentences and miss words when you're trying to be smart ass.

storker

Nexytus wrote: »

Try not to mess up your sentences and miss words when you're trying to be smart ass.

Ah yes, the old clutching at grammatical straws ploy. We're done here.

RandomViewer

Loud Black Woman wrote: »

I can barely even name a journalist. Not sure why I'm supposed to care about their opinions.

Most real Irish journalists are reporting who got done for no tax at the local courthouse, the national press are populated by preening narcissistic z list wannabe celebrities calling themselves journalists.

Mad_maxx

Philip o Connor

He's actually an advocate for not listening to many opinions and views ,he's effectively anti journalism

Biggest wanker on Twitter, Nazi's everywhere according to the bould philip

Mad_maxx

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Paul Williams. Pretends to be hard hitting but is just a romance writer about criminals.

Actually his job is shilling for the guards his stories about crime are just what some guard told him

Nexytus

storker wrote: »

Ah yes, the old clutching at grammatical straws ploy. We're done here.

You were done when you made the idiotic point that journalists should be naysayers with positive or constructive ideas. You can keep posting evasions and insults but you can't delete that embarrassingly stupid post you made.

CharlesMartel

I would say Ian Bailey is the worst journalist. His reporting of that Schull murder seems to have dropped into decades of trouble and a French court conviction too

mayo londoner

Roy Curtis, comes out with some ****e

trashcan

Anyone remember Paul Hyland ? Oh, and Cathal Dervan, before he went on to become John Delaneys mouthpiece. Is Dervan still at the FAI ?

I am going out on a limb here, but in terms of best journalists (or at least the ones I enjoy/enjoyed reading over the years):

Tom Humphries - the guy was a joy to read.
David McWilliams - I love the way he tells the story of modern Ireland, very relatable but also he is very forward looking and I love his ideas even if they can sometimes be a bit madcap.

PatrickSmithUS

Deleted User wrote: »

I am going out on a limb here, but in terms of best journalists (or at least the ones I enjoy/enjoyed reading over the years):

Tom Humphries - the guy was a joy to read.
David McWilliams - I love the way he tells the story of modern Ireland, very relatable but also he is very forward looking and I love his ideas even if they can sometimes be a bit madcap.

Malachy Clerkin, Paul Kimmage and Keith Duggan are love to read.

doublejobbing 2

Has to be Sorcha Pollak of the IT.

Has on at least two occasions done interviews with people in the asylum system who don't even bother to make up a story about having fled any sort of oppression. Outright state they are here for reasons of personal convenience. This fraud of a journalist doesn't even see the contradiction.

Mad_maxx

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

Has to be Sorcha Pollak of the IT.

Has on at least two occasions done interviews with people in the asylum system who don't even bother to make up a story about having fled any sort of oppression. Outright state they are here for reasons of personal convenience. This fraud of a journalist doesn't even see the contradiction.

She's an activist posing as a journalist

Ellen coyne is another one

castletownman

topnotch wrote: »

Paul Kimmage **** stirrer extraordinare.

I have seen so many people laud him for his interview pieces in Sunday Independent.

But when you read them, it's literally a transcript from the Dictaphone or whatever means he recorded the interview:

PK: "Really?"

Random sports star: "Yeah"

PK: "How did you feel"

RSS: "It hurt".

PK: "I say it did".

Then it's some transcript from one of his earlier pieces, or a quote from a book.

Repeated ad nauseam.

Groundbreaking.

Edgware

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I am going out on a limb here, but in terms of best journalists (or at least the ones I enjoy/enjoyed reading over the years):

Tom Humphries - the guy was a joy to read.
David McWilliams - I love the way he tells the story of modern Ireland, very relatable but also he is very forward looking and I love his ideas even if they can sometimes be a bit madcap.

Humphries was great at covering camogie

Edgware

RandomViewer wrote: »

Most real Irish journalists are reporting who got done for no tax at the local courthouse, the national press are populated by preening narcissistic z list wannabe celebrities calling themselves journalists.

We read and hear them all today bull****ting about results in Wisconsin and the Rust Belt. They couldn't find th U.S.A. on a map

Jim Root

COVID wrote: »

Two things.

1) Love 'That cycling dude', very Lebowski!

2) I think Kimmage deserves not a little credit for his unrelenting criticism of drug-cheat Lance Armstrong...long before it was the popular thing to say.

That aside Kimmage does come accross like a right prick from time to time; particularly on Twitter.

COVID

Jim Root wrote: »

That aside Kimmage does come accross like a right prick from time to time; particularly on Twitter.

I'll have to take your word for that as I'm not on Twitter.

But, back then, there were not many journalists who would directly confront Lance Armstrong in this manner:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZgns7CXeUI

Bambaata

Brendan O'Connor, if I see his name in the paper I dump the paper. Hate the hunt

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup

This thread seems to be what journalist views annoy me the most. I can't stand Una Mullaly but I think she can actually write pretty well. She just talks a lot of sh! Worst journalist for me is probably louise o'neill. Sh views and sh prose.

Doc07

COVID wrote: »

I'll have to take your word for that as I'm not on Twitter.

But, back then, there were are not many journalists who would directly confront Lance Armstrong in this manner:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZgns7CXeUI

The two lads either side of Lance remind me of the FAI gimps sitting beside John Delaney in the Dail. Looking awkward as they know their man is full of ****.

Arghus

David Quinn.

The man is a nutter.

He pops up occasionally in the Covid briefings to ask the most half baked and stupid questions, which only further confirms my opinion of him.

Not a fan of Ian O' Doherty - an enormous windbag - or Barry Egan.

Not surprised to see Fintan O' Toole getting piles of hate. Exactly the type to anger the masses on anonymous internet message boards. I personally don't mind that muchand think he's usually more right than wrong, but I think he writes from a self righteous point of view and is painfully right-on without actually being all that radical.

doublejobbing 2

Can't believe only one mention of Jim Cusack, albeit maybe because he is seemingly gone now.

The Gangland thread on CA will occasionally throw up a name from yesteryear, and Googling organised crime stories from the 90s and noughties inevitably throws up a few dingers from Cusack.

To summarise, he's basically the type of bloke who believes stories about dealers selling crisps laced with heroin to children. His articles get the most basic details wrong- names, dates, ages.

I'm no shinner but there's a good, brief run down of just a fraction of the nonsense he has been found out on.

https://www.anphoblacht.com/contents/19270

RabbleRouser2k

Louise O'Neill calmed down a bit, once she got herself a man.

Roisin Ingle is just...

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/r%C3%B3is%C3%ADn-ingle-dear-sister-shame-on-the-men-of-dingle-who-praised-your-rapist-1.4530039

^^^ This is just bait. I refuse to comment any further, because...it's digging up old stories that she obviously KNOWS are not 'rape culture'.

And it's also s**t stirring-you KNOW she wants to say everyone from Kerry is like this.

I'm from Kerry - I can tell you, no rapist, convicted, rumoured or otherwise, was EVER accepted, or excused, for their actions.

clytemnestra

Sorcha Pollak for never ever questioning the massive holes in these people's stories. I mean where do you even begin with this nonsense? Remind me of those direct flights between Ireland and Zimbabwe, the many many countries in between and what on earth Ireland owes this person.

https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/i-ve-realised-the-people-in-tullamore-are-calm-and-kind-1.4525114?mode=amp

AndrewJRenko

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

I'm from Kerry - I can tell you, no rapist, convicted, rumoured or otherwise, was EVER accepted, or excused, for their actions.

Except for the GAA official and the retired Garda sergeant who did exactly that in the case widely reported last week presumably?

RabbleRouser2k

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Except for the GAA official and the retired Garda sergeant who did exactly that in the case widely reported last week presumably?

The retired Garda sergeant is his father.

The GAA club have apologized for the comments made, saying they were done by an individual, not representing the club. But we know that the GAA has a complete arrogance and entitlement issue.

Just look at the Dublin GAA team who didn't care about the welfare of others when they went training during Covid lockdown.
No masks, no social distancing.

EmmetSpiceland

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

I'm from Kerry - I can tell you, no rapist, convicted, rumoured or otherwise, was EVER accepted, or excused, for their actions.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-20108061.html

“Danny Foley, of Meen, Listowel, sat in the dock at the Circuit Criminal Court, in Tralee, yesterday, awaiting sentence for sexually assaulting a woman, having been found guilty by a jury almost two weeks ago.

A group of 50 people, mainly men and said to be neighbours and friends, trooped into the courtroom and marched up to the accused, in single file. Each man shook his hand – some hugged him warmly, with tears in their eyes. It was witnessed by the 24-year-old victim who cut a lonely figure in the front seat of the public gallery.”

-Edited to include excerpt for those who didn’t want to click the link.

whisky_galore

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Louise O'Neill calmed down a bit, once she got herself a man.

Now its navel-gazing excerpts from her unremarkable life.

RabbleRouser2k

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-20108061.html

Those people were named and shamed down here. They were accepted about as well as a fart in a spacesuit.

RabbleRouser2k

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

The retired Garda sergeant is his father.

No, his Dad is or was a Garda, but the retired detective sergeant is a different individual.

An Claidheamh

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

Can't believe only one mention of Jim Cusack, albeit maybe because he is seemingly gone now.

The Gangland thread on CA will occasionally throw up a name from yesteryear, and Googling organised crime stories from the 90s and noughties inevitably throws up a few dingers from Cusack.

To summarise, he's basically the type of bloke who believes stories about dealers selling crisps laced with heroin to children. His articles get the most basic details wrong- names, dates, ages.

I'm no shinner but there's a good, brief run down of just a fraction of the nonsense he has been found out on.

https://www.anphoblacht.com/contents/19270

I think once he literally accused Sinn Féin of poisoning the water via some bizzarre theory

Smee_Again

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Those people were named and shamed down here. They were accepted about as well as a fart in a spacesuit.

No true Kerryman, eh?

RabbleRouser2k

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

No, his Dad is or was a Garda, but the retired detective sergeant is a different individual.

From what I've researched, that individual had served around the country. He seemingly had retired to Kerry. I can't vouch for if he's from there.

It makes sense (sadly) for one of the boys in blue to give a character witness statement.

RabbleRouser2k

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

It makes sense (sadly) for one of the boys in blue to give a character witness statement.

Does it? You’ll have to explain.

Dempo1

megaten wrote: »

Is Fintan O' Toole a journalist? He mostly just writes opinion columns I thought.

Yes and what an opinionated B******n he is

snotboogie

Ewan Mackenna was actually providing a worthwhile service by being so anti establishment and constantly pushing back on the status quo. That's always going to piss people off but I found him good value in the world of backslapping official Ireland endorsed journalists.

Its a shame to see him fall off the deep end over covid. His second last podcast from November where he argued with the cancer patient over covid restrictions is an example of him getting everything wrong, yet if you followed him on twitter you'd swear he was a covid nostradameus who had it all figured out from day 1.

Dempo1

Dempo1 wrote: »

Yes and what an opinionated B******n he is

The point of opinion pieces is to have opinions, one would opine. Kind of goes with the territory you’d have to imagine.

silverharp

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Louise O'Neill calmed down a bit, once she got herself a man.

the guy deserves a medal, is doing god's work. had totally forgotten that name.

Dempo1

Paul Williams has to be the worst, whilst claiming to be a journalist he's pretty much just an expert a S*** stirring. Interesting his Wikipedia profile describes him as an Irish media personality. His stint at newstalk didn't last too long, thank goodness

Dempo1

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The point of opinion pieces is to have opinions, one would opine. Kind of goes with the territory you’d have to imagine.

If its an opinion that's remotely coherent and most of his are just up in the air but I guess hot air does generally rise.

RabbleRouser2k

Deleted User wrote: »

Does it? You’ll have to explain.

Sadly, yes... the gardai tends to be almost like a 'brotherhood'. If you saw the documentary about Adrian Donoghue's murder, his colleague took it like losing a brother-not losing a co-worker.
They literally look out for their own-similar to how family will back up one another. A guy I went to primary school with is a garda. He almost died from a serious illness a few years ago (it was either an infection or meningitis, I don't know the full details). The guys he was in the barracks with kept a rotating vigil by his bedside while he was ill (He recovered, thankfully).

If you ask for help from a colleague, barring anything illegal (with historical exceptions), they'll do it.
Signing that statement is, imo, a clueless thing to do. I could understand such a statement for something for a far lesser crime. But that's the mindset of the guards.