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Vuelta a España stage 10: Castro Urdiales to Suances (185km)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    Even his helper is saying that he doesnt look tired :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,338 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Think we can all be happy in the knowledge there is zero chance Sam Bennett was winning that stage! More Liege Bastogne Liege than a sprinters stage! Great finale


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,623 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Wow Roglic is something else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,123 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    That's some gap that Roglic managed at the end!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 320 ✭✭f1000


    That last 2km looked like a proper challenge


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Didn't even break into a sweat, far too easy for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,517 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Dan finished 7th


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Roglic has taken 13 seconds on Carapaz. Dan Martin was in the lead group too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,338 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Stats have Dan Martin on the same time as Roglic. 3 seconds gained on the peleton.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,724 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Dan finished 7th

    and 3s back on Carapaz


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,338 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Roglic in red!

    No - they've changed it. Top 30 or so gets the same time now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke


    No surprise that he won. He's by far the best rider in the peloton at powering up that sort of an incline - short and not too steep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Dan finished 7th

    Good showing from him again. Think Roglic caught a few of them on the hop in terms of positioning and timing of the kick... Dan might have fared better if he'd stuck a bit tighter, but easy to say with hindsight. And easier said than done! Did he get a few seconds over Carapaz and Carthy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,362 ✭✭✭thebourke


    fair play to roglic...3 victories now in the vuelta 2020


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    Rode a very hard Dauphine , a really really hard Tour , Worlds, LBL and now with all these riders who were not top at the Tour and he is leaving them behind


    Good job he doesnt ride for Ineos I suppose


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,517 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    MPFGLB wrote: »
    Rode a very hard Dauphine , a really really hard Tour , Worlds, LBL and now with all these riders who were not top at the Tour and he is leaving them behind


    Good job he doesnt ride for Ineos I suppose


    The internet would have exploded by now :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    MPFGLB wrote: »
    Rode a very hard Dauphine , a really really hard Tour , Worlds, LBL and now with all these riders who were not top at the Tour and he is leaving them behind


    Good job he doesnt ride for Ineos I suppose

    We get it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,623 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    MPFGLB wrote:
    Good job he doesnt ride for Ineos I suppose
    His team is just like Ineos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,362 ✭✭✭thebourke


    next 3 stage will be interesting....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,724 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Paddigol wrote: »
    Good showing from him again. Think Roglic caught a few of them on the hop in terms of positioning and timing of the kick... Dan might have fared better if he'd stuck a bit tighter, but easy to say with hindsight. And easier said than done! Did he get a few seconds over Carapaz and Carthy?

    Carapaz was 2nd behind G Martin with about 500m to go and went backwards. Roglic and 10+ others flew past him


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Looks like they were all given the same time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,134 ✭✭✭Bambaata


    Dodge wrote: »
    Think we can all be happy in the knowledge there is zero chance Sam Bennett was winning that stage! More Liege Bastogne Liege than a sprinters stage! Great finale

    The odds on Sam were crazy, he was never getting this one. Thankfully i layed him on the exchange before the series of climbs were he was dropped :D Knew id won ages ago


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,697 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    How on earth can that be classified as a "flat" stage?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,338 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    MPFGLB wrote: »
    Rode a very hard Dauphine , a really really hard Tour , Worlds, LBL and now with all these riders who were not top at the Tour and he is leaving them behind



    He's 3 seconds down on Carapaz and just won a short sharp sprint up a hill. It's hardly ridiculous

    He's not leaving behind a Tour quality field either fwiw. Same as the Giro. Just a very odd season that has the peleton too thinly stretched


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke


    retalivity wrote: »
    Carapaz was 2nd behind G Martin with about 500m to go and went backwards. Roglic and 10 other flew past him

    Yeah, he looked very leggy. Doesn't bode well for him this weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,370 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    How on earth can that be classified as a "flat" stage?

    It's the Vuelta


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Your new Top 10 and new leader:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,724 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Looks like they've given Carapaz and the 2nd group the same time as Rog and Dan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,123 ✭✭✭mr spuckler


    Wasn't that updated? Carapaz given same time as Roglic and so remains 3 seconds ahead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke


    Roglic in red as per official website

    https://www.lavuelta.es/en/rankings


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,338 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Wasn't that updated? Carapaz given same time as Roglic and so remains 3 seconds ahead.

    They changed it back! Everyone down to 8th on the same time. Carapaz and McCarthy lose 3 more seconds to Roglic and Dan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Wasn't that updated? Carapaz given same time as Roglic and so remains 3 seconds ahead.

    Originally it gave everyone same time, then they edited it to give Roglic a 3 second gap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,255 ✭✭✭Boscoirl


    Same Time for the Carapaz is a bit generous. There were definitely gaps in the road.

    In the replay Carapaz came in 6 seconds after Roglic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,338 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Inquitus wrote: »
    Originally it gave everyone same time, then they edited it to give Roglic a 3 second gap.

    Originally it had a gap. Then they changed it. They they reinstated the gap

    And to be honest Roglic should have gained time on the Dan Martin group too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Boscoirl wrote: »
    Same Time for the Carapaz is a bit generous. There were definitely gaps in the road.

    In the replay Carapaz came in 6 seconds after Roglic

    Carapaz didn't get same time Roglic to 9th did, including Dan, they got 3 seconds on the rest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Stage results:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭velo.2010


    Definitely gaps at the end. I was about to post that the Vuelta comms couldn't be arsed counting tenths of a second to separate Roglic and Carapaz — so gave them both the same time — but have rightly acknowledged the gap now.

    I must admit, I thought Roglic would show fatigue after the Tour, but he is showing incredible reserves to do what he is doing here. Angliru on Sunday will be fascinating to watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭MPFGLB


    Dodge wrote: »
    He's 3 seconds down on Carapaz and just won a short sharp sprint up a hill. It's hardly ridiculous

    He's not leaving behind a Tour quality field either fwiw. Same as the Giro. Just a very odd season that has the peleton too thinly stretched

    YOu are missing the point ...I accept the season is unusual


    My point is if Roglic rode for INEOS he would get lambasted because INEOS cant have top performances and be given the same leyway that other riders are given ...not on social media and not by some here

    even when they do stuff that is extraordinary .
    Roglic flying now is extraordinary given what he has ridden so far this season


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,623 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    It's be great if Dan could do it tomorrow and snatch that red jersey for a couple of days.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,724 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Sammy B last man home just behind his temmate 12mins down.

    Expect RTE to lead with that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,338 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    MPFGLB wrote: »
    YOu are missing the point ...I accept the season is unusual


    My point is if Roglic rode for INEOS he would get lambasted because INEOS cant have top performances and be given the same leyway that other riders are given ...not on social media and not by some here

    even when they do stuff that is extraordinary .
    Roglic flying now is extraordinary given what he has ridden so far this season
    Fair enough. I find the raised eyebrows after every good performance (whatever the team) tiresome

    I don’t think Roglic is too extraordinary here fwiw. Just the best rider by some distance over a middling field. The only question was how would the loss in the TDF affect him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭Doc07


    MPFGLB wrote: »
    Rode a very hard Dauphine , a really really hard Tour , Worlds, LBL and now with all these riders who were not top at the Tour and he is leaving them behind


    Good job he doesnt ride for Ineos I suppose

    He’s not leaving them behind really though , it’s a few seconds. There are lads who you’ve barely ever heard of only couple minutes down. Lance and the boys would be 10 mins up on all but podium at this stage in a Tour


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,517 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    retalivity wrote: »
    Sammy B last man home just behind his temmate 12mins down.

    Expect RTE to lead with that.


    That doesn't bode well for tomorrow and Sunday :(
    Ackermann was only ~6 minutes behind Roglic, so a fit & healthy Sam shouldn't have struggled as much as he did today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭Doc07


    That doesn't bode well for tomorrow and Sunday :(
    Ackermann was only ~6 minutes behind Roglic, so a fit & healthy Sam shouldn't have struggled as much as he did today.

    He was saving a bit back for Sunday’s breakaway and solo assault on L’Angliru


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭Mefistofelino


    Inquitus wrote: »
    Stage results:

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    Is it just me or does Roglic looks like when you buy your Mark Wahlberg on "Wish"?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    MPFGLB wrote: »
    YOu are missing the point ...I accept the season is unusual


    My point is if Roglic rode for INEOS he would get lambasted because INEOS cant have top performances and be given the same leyway that other riders are given ...not on social media and not by some here

    even when they do stuff that is extraordinary .
    Roglic flying now is extraordinary given what he has ridden so far this season

    It's been done to death at this stage. When TJV come out with the sort of pontificating crap we got from Sky for years you'll find people wishing them ill just as quick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,370 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    MPFGLB wrote: »
    YOu are missing the point ...I accept the season is unusual


    My point is if Roglic rode for INEOS he would get lambasted because INEOS cant have top performances and be given the same leyway that other riders are given ...not on social media and not by some here

    even when they do stuff that is extraordinary .
    Roglic flying now is extraordinary given what he has ridden so far this season

    Don't even try compare this to Dennis winning the Cima Coppi. And a JV doctor isnt currently trying to rob laptops our of courtrooms


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,763 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Don't even try compare this to Dennis winning the Cima Coppi. And a JV doctor isnt currently trying to rob laptops our of courtrooms

    To be fair its not Ineos's fault yer man has gone off the deepend!


  • Posts: 109 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MPFGLB wrote: »
    Roglic flying now is extraordinary given what he has ridden so far this season

    He was very consistent last season also from Tirreno til Lombardy

    He's been getting panned in the Belgian (social) media since the World's road race as apparently he's the reason van Aert isn't world champion or the tour of flanders winner. So it's nice to see him back winning, especially in Liège.
    It's some reaction to his tour loss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭who_ru


    Roglic is an incredible athlete, not just physically but mentally too. A lot of riders would not have come back from that defeat in the tour, he's a class act, they way he congratulated Podgacar having lost the ITT in the tour is exemplary. I have nothing but respect for him. and then to win LBL just a few weeks later, top top attitude, and a gent to boot.


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