Donald Trump - the Megathread - read Mod warning in OP

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suicide_circus

Valresnick wrote: »

Most people who hate Trump cannot give you 3 solid reasons as to why they hate him so much ? The same for Biden, they can’t give you 3 solid reasons why they love him !!

No one "loves" Joe Biden. He's a Washington insider of 40+ years standing and i have no doubt some dodgy details will come out about him sooner or later. But he's not Donald Trump and that's enough for most people.

Kivaro

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Waaaa "Trump left us this mess" Waaaaaa!

Yes, unfortunately we'll be hearing a lot about legacy issues.
Even when Trump is well gone and the BLM/Antifa group are running havoc around the US, Biden/Harris will still blame Trump.
It's goin' to be a shoitstorm until some stability is restored with a new Presidency in 2024.

mcmoustache

He has big hands. Tremendously big.

MeMen2_MoRi_

He's 6'3 and 238

He may or may not glow orange in the dark.

fullstop

Hunky Monster wrote: »

Waaaa "Trump left us this mess" Waaaaaa!

sheeplover55

kerry_man15

In this world of political-correctness gone mad I loved his willingness to say what he thought and to call things as they are. He certainly shook things up and made people think about things. He wasn't afraid to question free-trade agreements or membership of organisations if he thought America wasn't getting as much out of them as they could. The world needs more people like this. Almost all politicians in Ireland/EU just spout the same old political BS/spin as they are worried about votes and they have zero personality.
He is the embodiment of free speech, I don't agree with all he says, but he's entitled to say what he thinks. All countries need free thinkers and people who aren't afraid to speak out.
Many people I know just read the headlines of the mainstream media, who have recently shown how totally biased they are, to get their opinions on Trump. As soon as they hear his name they roll their eyes and laugh. They aren't even willing to think that he can do some good things. The guy could come up with a cure for cancer and rid the world of hunger and war and he still wouldn't get credit in the mainstream press.
Pre-covid the US was in a great place economy wise and job wise. He hadn't invaded any countries or started any wars. People complain about the numbers who have died from Covid, yes it hasn't been handled well in the US, but not entirely Trump's fault. How many people died from the wars and resulting chaos overseen by Bush, Clinton, Obama? Or do those people not matter because most of them aren't American?

sheeplover55

kerry_man15 wrote: »

In this world of political-correctness gone mad I loved his willingness to say what he thought and to call things as they are. He certainly shook things up and made people think about things. He wasn't afraid to question free-trade agreements or membership of organisations if he thought America wasn't getting as much out of them as they could. The world needs more people like this. Almost all politicians in Ireland/EU just spout the same old political BS/spin as they are worried about votes and they have zero personality.
He is the embodiment of free speech, I don't agree with all he says, but he's entitled to say what he thinks. All countries need free thinkers and people who aren't afraid to speak out.
Many people I know just read the headlines of the mainstream media, who have recently shown how totally biased they are, to get their opinions on Trump. As soon as they hear his name they roll their eyes and laugh. They aren't even willing to think that he can do some good things. The guy could come up with a cure for cancer and rid the world of hunger and war and he still wouldn't get credit in the mainstream press.
Pre-covid the US was in a great place economy wise and job wise. He hadn't invaded any countries or started any wars. People complain about the numbers who have died from Covid, yes it hasn't been handled well in the US, but not entirely Trump's fault. How many people died from the wars and resulting chaos overseen by Bush, Clinton, Obama? Or do those people not matter because most of them aren't American?

You're right in the most part, but he carried himself a man child - anyone who stood up to him in his administration got booted out and he surrounded himself with yes man. There was a Fox poll 2/3 years ago and something like 80% of Republican voters said his tweeting was damaging his Presidency. He could have been great if it was the Trump of 30 years ago - he changed a lot I don't what happened to him medically but it's clear he's been in a mental and cognitive decline for at least a couple of decades.

CalamariFritti

He hasn't actually lost yet. Chip and a chair.

ancapailldorcha

He's conclusively proven that bigoted conspiracy theorists are abysmal leaders so there's that.

MeMen2_MoRi_

Has it been said yet?

"There's always a tweet".

suicide_circus

I hope President Biden leaves the twitter machine alone

osarusan

kerry_man15 wrote: »

He is the embodiment of free speech

For himself and his own speech.

He had no issue attempting to shut down anybody who said anything he didn't like. Utterly bizarre that he is seen as some kind of bulwark against identity politics when he's as entrenched in it as anybody else.

On the thread topic, I appreciate the fact he was fairly ineffective at actually getting much done. I doubt he ever really cared about any particular policies tbh, the whole thing was like a bet to him to win the campaign, then he had to see it out.

All Biden has to do to be a better president is do nothing and stay off twitter.

harrylittle

"his place has become quite the echo chamber, too many middle class Irish people reading tabloid style 'hit-pieces in ostensibly liberal broadsheets for four years.


Anyway, that aside [and if it is allowed], I think now is a good time to create a new Donald Trump Appreciation Thread, where free thinkers, or at least more nuanced individuals, can come to escape the media-driven uniformity of opinion apparent in the other threads. So, I will get the ball rolling:

The Donald Trump Appreciation Thread:

Seems appropriate to salute this hero-warrior one last time and bid him farewell as sitting president of the United States of America (unless it is proven that fraud is responsible for Biden's election)."

Thanks for the thread ... Time to Salute a Hero ... a through Gladiator

harrylittle

"this place has become quite the echo chamber, too many middle class Irish people reading tabloid style 'hit-pieces in ostensibly liberal broadsheets for four years."

When Trump goes ... so too will the middle class irish go ... thats the irony

whisky_galore

suicide_circus wrote: »

No one "loves" Joe Biden. He's a Washington insider of 40+ years standing and i have no doubt some dodgy details will come out about him sooner or later. But he's not Donald Trump and that's enough for most people.

People would vote for a potato just to see the back of Trumpy.

upandcumming

PropJoe10 wrote: »

He's about the worst that the human race has to offer. If you admire that, then you might want to take a quick look in the mirror, quite honestly.

One of the dimmest posts on this board in a while - and that's during a lockdown for a pandemic and a US presidential election.

Snotty

Love him or hate him, he is right about the media, I never realised how bad both sides of the US media are until trump was elected, its pretty sickening that most people in the US get their news from one side or the other and neither side would know how to produce a balanced report if it hit them on the back of the head with a 2x4

Although worse to come, Trump will either start or buy some media outlet once he is out of the White House, it'll be Fox News on meth

Billy Mays

Sorry, wrong thread

StupidLikeAFox

[Deleted User] wrote: »

... he has inadvertely shone a light on the massive divisions/discontent in US society ....

...in much the same way that the black and tans shone a light on on the desire for Irish independence

rossie1977

Kivaro wrote: »

Let's check back in again in 4 years time, when Kamala Harris has been the defacto President for 3 of those years, and the country has really gone to shi-t. Police departments de-funded all over the country, and criminality accepted as some sort of reparation for the sins of a tiny amount of white people hundreds of years ago.

You do realise Harris was an ex prosecutor right, heavy handed one at that...

rossie1977

Well presidential historians have him ranked worst president in history. Even Republican historians have him bottom 5.

That should tell you everything

nolivesmatter

rossie1977 wrote: »

Well presidential historians have him ranked worst president in history. Even Republican historians have him bottom 5.

Personality aside is that be a fair assessment of his time?

Overheal

rossie1977 wrote: »

Well presidential historians have him ranked worst president in history. Even Republican historians have him bottom 5.

That should tell you everything

As they say, history is written by the winners.

Wanderer78

Overheal wrote:

As they say, history is written by the winners.

....and donny won biggly!

bnt

A couple of money-related points:

• Trump cited the costs as a major reason for trying to take the USA out of the World Health Organisation (WHO), but most of the USA’s contributions are voluntary and could be reduced without leaving (source). Not that that’s going to happen now.
• If the last twenty years should teach the average person anything about economics, it’s that the performance of a country’s stock market is basically divorced from the economy of the country as a whole. In the USA, the Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) is the most commonly-cited index, but that is based on just 30 selected stocks. GDP is a better measure, but still highly flawed e.g. it counts house sales as economic activity, even if the reason for the sale is financial hardship. That’s only one example. Most Americans have gotten worse off overall, as wealth has become more concentrated in the hands of the “1%”. (I’m not saying this is Trump’s fault - the causes go back decades and cross party lines - but his tax cuts for corporations didn’t help the average American.)

Wanderer78

bnt wrote:

A couple of money-related points: Trump cited the costs as a major reason for trying to take the USA out of the World Health Organisation (WHO), but most of the USA’s contributions are voluntary and could be reduced without leaving (

No point reciting facts here, his base aren't interested in such things

Zascar

Trump gets a lot of slack around here but also gets more support than I would have expected. He's just got the 2nd amount of votes ever for an election - despite the dumpster fire of a presidential term. I really want to know what's going through the head of people who genuinely support him as I want to understand...

He started his campaign saying Mexicans are rapists and he wants to ban Muslims. He made a load of big promises about Only he can fix it, and he's a successful businessman who will run the country properly - we now know he's broke and broke most of his promises. He didn't build the wall, Mexico didn't pay for it, he didn't defeat ISIS. He has zero plans for healthcare, he's planned to cut Medicare and medicare. He didn't drain the swamp
(https://twitter.com/Public_Citizen/status/1323351687738888193)he filled it monsters. He played more golf than any president. He has had over 20,000 documented lies, he didn't hail Hilary. He didn't divest his businesses, and he spends most of the day watching tv and tweeting. He constantly says horrible things to people apart from authoritarian dictators who he cosies to. His list of accomplishments is incredibly short.

Why, oh Why, would you vote for 4 more years of this? Biden is no superman but he seems like a good guy who cares for people. The democrats want to bring in Universal healthcare, free public college, prison reform, drug reform, climate change etc - the right is mostly scaring people about Mexicans, Antifa and Socialism, while giving tax cuts to billionaires.

I get that people don't like the woke and PC culture of the left - neither do I it needs to end, but do you hate it enough to blindly ignore all the above? What is it that makes people want to vote more of this?

Hoboo

https://youtu.be/IdnHfYbr1cQ

Pretty good synopsis