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Vuelta Espana stage 11

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    #32
    velo.2010
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    at1withmyself wrote: »
    Does Carapaz normally sit that far back in the peleton, not looking comfortable at the moment?
    I don't know about Carapaz but Froome is looking a lot better today.


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    #33
    at1withmyself
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    velo.2010 wrote: »
    I don't know about Carapaz but Froome is looking a lot better today.

    As Sean says - there just not going hard yet :)


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    #34
    REBELSAFC
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    velo.2010 wrote: »
    I don't know about Carapaz but Froome is looking a lot better today.

    Sigh!!!

    14KM TO GO
    Froome drops out the rear of the peloton as the riders hit the lower slopes of the climb.


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    #35
    at1withmyself
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    REBELSAFC wrote: »
    Sigh!!!

    14KM TO GO
    Froome drops out the rear of the peloton as the riders hit the lower slopes of the climb.

    He's saving himself for tomorrow on the angliru


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    #36
    dahat
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    Who is the lad for TJV on the front?


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    #37
    at1withmyself
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    Looks like Carapaz is now all alone with 5km to go


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    #38
    neris
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    at1withmyself wrote: »
    He's saving himself for tomorrow on the angliru

    He's practicing for Dan's super domestique for next year


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    #39
    Inquitus
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    neris wrote: »
    He's practicing for Dan's super domestique for next year

    He needs to keep practicing, as soon as the road goes up Froome's going backwards at the moment!


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    #40
    Richard Hillman
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    Looks like Dan put some more time on Carthy


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    #41
    wirelessdude01
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    Dan stealing a few more seconds there on Carthy.


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    #42
    velo.2010
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    On the face of it, a disappointing day with the lack of GC action but perhaps a sign of the times. The days of guys going up the road and taking lumps of time out of their rivals may be a thing of the past.


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    #43
    Inquitus
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    wirelessdude01 wrote: »
    Dan stealing a few more seconds there on Carthy.

    He's going to need those and more to cover his TT losses.


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    #44
    Dodge
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    He and the others got 7 more seconds on McCarthy

    Only Jumbo and Movistar have any kind of a team here. The rest just have to do it themselves so for Dan it’s try and hang on and then sprint up the hill when he fa

    BTW Dan is back in green tomorrow


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    #45
    Inquitus
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    velo.2010 wrote: »
    On the face of it, a disappointing day with the lack of GC action but perhaps a sign of the times. The days of guys going up the road and taking lumps of time out of their rivals may be a thing of the past.

    I think it's more because the Angliru is tomorrow.


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    #46
    Thud
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    Dan back in green


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    #47
    Eamonnator
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    Dan Martin will wear the green jersey tomorrow, because the leader of the points classification will be wearing the race leader's jersey.


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    #48
    retalivity
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    dahat wrote: »
    Who is the lad for TJV on the front?

    Jonas Vingegaard, he was pulling them all up the mountain for ages.


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    #49
    dahat
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    retalivity wrote: »
    Jonas Vingegaard, he was pulling them all up the mountain for ages.

    Thanks, he was very impressive & never got a mention on TV as such.


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    #50
    velo.2010
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    Pretty quick times up there today. Carthy now 8th on all time list. A souped up Roberto Heras has the record time.

    1. 2000: 41:55 Roberto Heras 18.32 km/h
    2. 2013: 43:06 Chris Horner 17.82 km/h
    3. 2008: 43:12 Alberto Contador 17.78 km/h
    4. 2000: 43:24 Pavel Tonkov 17.70 km/h
    5. 2000: 43:24 Roberto Laiseka 17.70 km/h
    6. 2013: 43:34 Alejandro Valverde 17.63 km/h
    7. 2013: 43:34 Vincenzo Nibali 17.63 km/h
    8. 2020: 43:34 Hugh Carthy 17.63 km/h
    9. 2020: 43:50 Aleksandr Vlasov 17.52 km/h
    10. 2020: 43:50 Enric Mas 17.52 km/h
    11. 2020: 43:50 Richard Carapaz 17.52 km/h
    12. 2008: 43:54 Alejandro Valverde 17.49 km/h
    13. 2002: 43:55 Roberto Heras 17.49 km/h
    14. 2011: 43:57 Juan Jose Cobo 17.47 km/h
    15. 2020: 44:00 Primoz Roglic 17.45 km/h
    16. 2020: 44:00 Sepp Kuss 17.45 km/h
    17. 2020: 44:00 Dan Martin 17.45 km/h


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    #51
    Eamonnator
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    velo.2010 wrote: »
    Pretty quick times up there today. Carthy now 8th on all time list. A souped up Roberto Heras has the record time.

    1. 2000: 41:55 Roberto Heras 18.32 km/h
    2. 2013: 43:06 Chris Horner 17.82 km/h
    3. 2008: 43:12 Alberto Contador 17.78 km/h
    4. 2000: 43:24 Pavel Tonkov 17.70 km/h
    5. 2000: 43:24 Roberto Laiseka 17.70 km/h
    6. 2013: 43:34 Alejandro Valverde 17.63 km/h
    7. 2013: 43:34 Vincenzo Nibali 17.63 km/h
    8. 2020: 43:34 Hugh Carthy 17.63 km/h
    9. 2020: 43:50 Aleksandr Vlasov 17.52 km/h
    10. 2020: 43:50 Enric Mas 17.52 km/h
    11. 2020: 43:50 Richard Carapaz 17.52 km/h
    12. 2008: 43:54 Alejandro Valverde 17.49 km/h
    13. 2002: 43:55 Roberto Heras 17.49 km/h
    14. 2011: 43:57 Juan Jose Cobo 17.47 km/h
    15. 2020: 44:00 Primoz Roglic 17.45 km/h
    16. 2020: 44:00 Sepp Kuss 17.45 km/h
    17. 2020: 44:00 Dan Martin 17.45 km/h

    Does this mean that Horner was the fastest clean cyclist on that climb?


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    #52
    dastardly00
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    velo.2010 wrote: »
    Pretty quick times up there today. Carthy now 8th on all time list. A souped up Roberto Heras has the record time.

    1. 2000: 41:55 Roberto Heras 18.32 km/h
    2. 2013: 43:06 Chris Horner 17.82 km/h
    3. 2008: 43:12 Alberto Contador 17.78 km/h
    4. 2000: 43:24 Pavel Tonkov 17.70 km/h
    5. 2000: 43:24 Roberto Laiseka 17.70 km/h
    6. 2013: 43:34 Alejandro Valverde 17.63 km/h
    7. 2013: 43:34 Vincenzo Nibali 17.63 km/h
    8. 2020: 43:34 Hugh Carthy 17.63 km/h
    9. 2020: 43:50 Aleksandr Vlasov 17.52 km/h
    10. 2020: 43:50 Enric Mas 17.52 km/h
    11. 2020: 43:50 Richard Carapaz 17.52 km/h
    12. 2008: 43:54 Alejandro Valverde 17.49 km/h
    13. 2002: 43:55 Roberto Heras 17.49 km/h
    14. 2011: 43:57 Juan Jose Cobo 17.47 km/h
    15. 2020: 44:00 Primoz Roglic 17.45 km/h
    16. 2020: 44:00 Sepp Kuss 17.45 km/h
    17. 2020: 44:00 Dan Martin 17.45 km/h


    You're in the wrong thread :D


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    #53
    Inquitus
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    velo.2010 wrote: »
    Pretty quick times up there today. Carthy now 8th on all time list. A souped up Roberto Heras has the record time.

    1. 2000: 41:55 Roberto Heras 18.32 km/h
    2. 2013: 43:06 Chris Horner 17.82 km/h
    3. 2008: 43:12 Alberto Contador 17.78 km/h
    4. 2000: 43:24 Pavel Tonkov 17.70 km/h
    5. 2000: 43:24 Roberto Laiseka 17.70 km/h
    6. 2013: 43:34 Alejandro Valverde 17.63 km/h
    7. 2013: 43:34 Vincenzo Nibali 17.63 km/h
    8. 2020: 43:34 Hugh Carthy 17.63 km/h
    9. 2020: 43:50 Aleksandr Vlasov 17.52 km/h
    10. 2020: 43:50 Enric Mas 17.52 km/h
    11. 2020: 43:50 Richard Carapaz 17.52 km/h
    12. 2008: 43:54 Alejandro Valverde 17.49 km/h
    13. 2002: 43:55 Roberto Heras 17.49 km/h
    14. 2011: 43:57 Juan Jose Cobo 17.47 km/h
    15. 2020: 44:00 Primoz Roglic 17.45 km/h
    16. 2020: 44:00 Sepp Kuss 17.45 km/h
    17. 2020: 44:00 Dan Martin 17.45 km/h

    Interesting list, all those in red have had failed drug tests or else have been accused widely in the media of the same.


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    #54
    Chips Lovell
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    I don't hold much store with the comparison of climbing times. There's way too many variables for it to be meaningful.

    1. It isn't a TT and how quickly the fastest riders ascend it will depend on when the racing really starts.

    2. Weather conditions (in particular wind) will vary from year to year. It was rotten in 2002 for example, but not so bad this year.

    3. Although this doesn't apply to the Angliru (since it's invariably the last climb) where a climb comes on a stage can often dictate how quickly it's climbed.

    The only worthwhile year-on-year comparisons would be TTs in similar weather conditions and they don't happen that often.


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