Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

Fann Linn

smurgen wrote: »

Lowrey backing Varadkar lol.

Birds of a feather....

Bullocks

smurgen wrote: »

Lowrey backing Varadkar lol.

He knows he's backing a winner

Floppybits

smurgen wrote: »

Lowrey backing Varadkar lol.

Wonder what is in it for Lowery?

Bannasidhe

Fann Linn wrote: »

Birds of a feather....

I actually don't think they are birds of a feather tbh.
I think each one is half a Haughey.
Lowry is, imo, for sale while LV is in it for the prestige of power and influence.
Lowry seeks the 'what is in it for me?', LV looks for the microphone/photo-op and the 'OMG you are totes amazeballs'.

Floppybits

1 hour to go

Bannasidhe

Nobotty wrote: »

Yes but SF need to be across their finances a bit more than they are now as politics will get dirty
This only came to light as the DUP's agent Stephen Nolan found out
3 months is an unacceptably long time to have government moneys wrongly into a party account and nothing done
3 months without Query
You can see a legitimate question asked would it have been seen without Nolan copping it from the public records I presume
Sinn Féin don't need the money and certainly don't need the issue waved at them
Its not deliberate but its very poor oversight
Put it to you this way,if it had gone into FG's accounts and stayed, there would have been Dáil questions

Anyhow one hour and 55 mins to go
Giddy up lads

All parties - SF included - need to be transparent about their income... but so do all politicians - and their close family members. If folks want to protect their privacy as to their income stream then I suggest they should find another occupation.

Were there ever questions in the Dáil about the donation to FF from O'Callaghan that ended up in Mary Martin's bank account?

Cute Hoor

smurgen wrote: »

Lowrey backing Varadkar lol.

That's a shocker.
Didn't see that one coming

golfball37

Only speak for myself but I think I’m fairly representative of a few people I know anyhow. Wouldn’t vote SF but FG not an option with varadkar at the helm, the more he’s defended the more FG look bad.

RandomViewer

Floppybits wrote: »

Wonder what is in it for Lowery?

Continued access to FG email and sit in at cabinet meetings?

Nobotty

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Were there ever questions in the Dáil about the donation to FF from O'Callaghan that ended up in Mary Martin's bank account?

First I've heard of that but FF would want to have a clean house before throwing stones
Anyhow 3 mins to go
Giddy up!

FrancieBrady

Just to demonstrate the damage this has done to Leo and FG. The butt of jokes now.

https://twitter.com/olivercallan/status/1325797764580696064

SleetAndSnow

Think this is it? Posted 9th November. Just reading now

https://villagemagazine.ie/at-least-10-times-not-2-or-3/

McMurphy

https://twitter.com/VillageMagIRE/status/1325801561176629254?s=19

Bubbaclaus

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

Think this is it? Posted 9th November. Just reading now

https://villagemagazine.ie/at-least-10-times-not-2-or-3/

That's it? Clearly they have nothing else if they are bigging up that.

rovers_runner

So this is beginning to look like the case of a jilted toyboy getting his own back.
Did #Leotheleak have a hareem in the broadest sense of the word?

intellectual dosser

That is a complete shambles, are we now to have a national debate on what constitutes a friend? I hope we finally get clarity on whether a person can have more than one best friend.

Leo Varadkar will be have some smug look on his face today.

timmyntc

Reaffirms what everyone knew really - timing of it obviously to increase pressure on FF ahead of the no confidence vote.

Interesting to see if MM can keep his ducks in a row ahead of this vote - party not happy

FrancieBrady

intellectual dosser wrote: »

That is a complete shambles, are we now to have a national debate on what constitutes a friend? I hope we finally get clarity on whether a person can have more than one best friend.

Leo Varadkar will be have some smug look on his face today.

Why?

The inference here is that he constructed a narrative to cover what he did.

seamus

Wow, groundbreaking stuff there :rolleyes:

This is an infantile level of journalism tbh. Leo said "two or three times a year". Anyone who read that to literally mean 2 or 3 times, is a moron. It's idiomatic. An expression that you arrange to meet someone on a relatively rare basis, not literally two or three times in a year, and if it's any more than that you're a liar.

And then amusingly goes on to note that MOT may have been bigging up the relationship and has poor attention to detail, but nevertheless seven random WhatsApp messages and an encounter at Pride is a smoking gun that Varadkar and MOT are besties.

timmyntc

More interesting would be are there official records of some of these dinners with Leo (& Paschal) - surely a dinner with head of NAGP (who isn't your mate) would be noted as such.

intellectual dosser

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Why?

The inference here is that he constructed a narrative to cover what he did.

Why?

Varadkar said that he meets the guy "2 or 3 times a year" but this magazine are claiming that by their count from looking at screenshots of apparent whatsapp and messenger exchanges its at least 10 times a year?

So what?!

The leak was not good, its disingenuous at very best. But this question of friendship is a complete distraction from that core issue...and while opponents try to kick up dust about it LV will slip away.

Bishop of hope

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Just to demonstrate the damage this has done to Leo and FG. The butt of jokes now.

https://twitter.com/olivercallan/status/1325797764580696064

Oliver Callan makes his living making politicians, the butt of jokes ffs.
Loads of comedians do and there's a history of political satires the world over.

There's a photo of a minister working there in talks on trade. Many a party would give a lot to have someone in that position this morning I'd say.
Looking at the latest revelation piece linked there now, it looks like the lads waiting patiently for the latest revelations are the butt's of the joke of the day to me.

smurgen

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

That's it? Clearly they have nothing else if they are bigging up that.

At least ten meetings in 2019.

FrancieBrady

intellectual dosser wrote: »

Why?

Varadkar said that he meets the guy "2 or 3 times a year" but this magazine are claiming that by their count from looking at screenshots of apparent whatsapp and messenger exchanges its at least 10 times a year?

So what?!

The leak was not good, its disingenuous at very best. But this question of friendship is a complete distraction from that core issue...and while opponents try to kick up dust about it LV will slip away.

I think it was Leo who was trying to 'distract' from the closeness of the friendship.

This clears the matter up...he was lying through his teeth again and throwing somebody under a bus in order to cover what he did.

Peter Flynt

Varadkar has to go now -resign or be sacked
Lying to Dáil Éireann is a sackable offence.
We know why he is lying also . . . to downplay the real reason why he is leaking confidential government reports.

As we all know by now. . . Varadkar has sacked members of his own party for less.

FrancieBrady

Bishop of hope wrote: »

Oliver Callan makes his living making politicians, the butt of jokes ffs.

Yes, but Oliver is not having a tilt at Michael Martin's trustworthiness, is he?

That is now on Leo and that is the damage he has done.

McMurphy

smurgen wrote: »

At least ten meetings in 2019.

Is the suggestions that all the meetings took place in and around the same time as Leo sent him the confidential documents? Website crashed before I got a chance to read it all.

intellectual dosser

FrancieBrady wrote: »

I think it was Leo who was trying to 'distract' from the closeness of the friendship.

This clears the matter up...he was lying through his teeth again and throwing somebody under a bus in order to cover what he did.

He's not covering what he did, he admitted to providing the document to a third party (friend or otherwise is irrelevant).

He may have tried to justify his actions and thrown MOT under a bus, but being a bad friend isn't something he's going to be ousted for. Focus on the leak, not the friendship.

paw patrol

intellectual dosser wrote: »

That is a complete shambles, are we now to have a national debate on what constitutes a friend? I hope we finally get clarity on whether a person can have more than one best friend.

Leo Varadkar will be have some smug look on his face today.

sure its' not a nuclear bomb but it is a clear suggestion of Leo lying to the dail


there is a huge difference in the friends i meet 2 times a year and those i'd see monthly - the 10 times suggested in village.


The good doctor is a closer friend than leo claimed and in the context of Leo's speech to the dail it is significant. he was willfully inaccurate in what he said in the dail that day - for a leader in government that should be a hanging offence.

intellectual dosser

paw patrol wrote: »

sure its' not a nuclear bomb but it is a clear suggestion of Leo lying to the dail


there is a huge difference in the friends i meet 2 times a year and those i'd see monthly - the 10 times suggested in village.


The good doctor is a closer friend than leo claimed and in the context of Leo's speech to the dail it is significant. he was willfully inaccurate in what he said in the dail that day - for a leader in government that should be a hanging offence.

I don't understand how his relationship with MOT was ever allowed to become relevant, a leak is a leak, no?