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Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

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    #5162
    Nobotty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 788 ✭✭✭Nobotty


    Bowie wrote: »
    So you agree with her view to an extent?
    I find it best practise to take it on an issue by issue basis and if the story is accurate. Pointing out the farce that is the FG online campaign is just that regardless of the messengers alleged politics. Or do you require a FG'er to point out FG flaws?
    I think their campaign is an almighty waste of time and money
    Their house is burning down and they've sent the fire brigade to the next street over
    I was just saying an fg'er simply won't share Uns's opinion on practically anything especially the leak
    They're a different choir


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    #5163
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    The Tanaiste confessed what he did as Taoiseach in the Dáil. The consequences of that are yet to be decided by SIPO and the Gardai.

    The consequences of a witch-hunt? The Gardai have better things to be doing than listening to the ranting of village idiots.


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    #5164
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 68,848 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The consequences of a witch-hunt? The Gardai have better things to be doing than listening to the ranting of village idiots.

    A 'witch hunt'?

    We found out the Taoiseach was secretly doing the wrong, possibly criminal thing.


    No witch hunt there, it's good journalism, even if you have a siege mentality about it.


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    #5165
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    A 'witch hunt'?

    We found out the Taoiseach was secretly doing the wrong, possibly criminal thing.


    No witch hunt there, it's good journalism, even if you have a siege mentality about it.

    A witch-hunt. Pure and simple. Get over it.


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    #5166
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    The consequences of a witch-hunt? The Gardai have better things to be doing than listening to the ranting of village idiots.

    The Gardaí certainly have better things to do than investigate whether the head of government broke the law. It's a shame the head of government decided to ignore best practice and head off on a solo run that requires investigation.
    If only he had followed best practice or told his friend not friend to go elsewhere for a copy of this apparently already in the public domain document there would be no need for investigations.
    But here we are.


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    #5167
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 68,848 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Deleted User wrote: »
    A witch-hunt. Pure and simple. Get over it.

    'Over what' exactly?

    That the Tanaiste has confessed to wrongdoing? I think that would require his supporters to 'get over'.
    Me, I am happy that so early in this government's term that the charade that there was any difference in FG/FF has been blown away.

    Looking forward as they try to save themselves from drowning. I reckon MM has a good chance of catching Leo in the polls tbh. FG look punch drunker by the day.


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    #5168
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    A witch-hunt. Pure and simple. Get over it.
    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    The consequences of a witch-hunt? The Gardai have better things to be doing than listening to the ranting of village idiots.

    Very Trump reply. Seriously Maryanne.
    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    The Tanaiste answered in the Dail. The village idiots lost.

    They broke the story made a claim and LV admitted to it.
    Job done.


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    #5169
    [Deleted User]
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    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    The Gardaí certainly have better things to do than investigate whether the head of government broke the law. It's a shame the head of government decided to ignore best practice and head off on a solo run that requires investigation.
    If only he had followed best practice or told his friend not friend to go elsewhere for a copy of this apparently already in the public domain document there would be no need for investigations.
    But here we are.

    Leo did nothing wrong. The document was already discussed, voted on and in the public domain. The contributors to the village article came across as bitter losers.


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    #5170
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    'Over what' exactly?

    That the Tanaiste has confessed to wrongdoing? I think that would require his supporters to 'get over'.
    Me, I am happy that so early in this government's term that the charade that there was any difference in FG/FF has been blown away.

    Looking forward as they try to save themselves from drowning. I reckon MM has a good chance of catching Leo in the polls tbh. FG look punch drunker by the day.

    No. Not wrong doing. An error in judgment, maybe. After all, the document had been discussed and voted on. Nothing secret.


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    #5171
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 68,848 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Leo did nothing wrong. The document was already discussed, voted on and in the public domain. The contributors to the village article came across as bitter losers.

    He CONFESSED to doing the wrong thing. His Taoiseach said he did the wrong thing.


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    #5172
    [Deleted User]
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    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    He CONFESSED to doing the wrong thing. His Taoiseach said he did the wrong thing.
    Really? Did he not confess to making an error of judgment? After all, the document had been debated and voted on. Nothing secret.


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    #5173
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Leo did nothing wrong. The document was already discussed, voted on and in the public domain. The contributors to the village article came across as bitter losers.

    This is all false.


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    #5174
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 68,848 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Deleted User wrote: »
    No. Not wrong doing. An error in judgment, maybe. After all, the document had been discussed and voted on. Nothing secret.

    You need to update yourself. Both of them have said it was the wrong thing to do.


    MichaelMartin wrote:
    I have said it was the wrong thing to do, it was not best practice, the Tanaiste has acknowledged that


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    #5175
    [Deleted User]
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    Bowie wrote: »
    This is all false.

    Really?


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    #5176
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Really? Did he not confess to making an error of judgment? After all, the document had been debated and voted on. Nothing secret.

    Are you calling Leo a liar??


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    #5177
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Really? Did he not confess to making an error of judgment? After all, the document had been debated and voted on. Nothing secret.

    Accused of leaking a confidential document to a pal.
    He admitted it.

    You are confusing making excuses as to why with the fact that he did it.


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    #5178
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Really?

    Yes. Every word.


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    #5179
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    CarProblem wrote: »
    Ho much is said fund vs the 250bn national debt we're projected to have at the end of 2021?



    Doesn't really check out

    https://twitter.com/seamuscoffey/status/1257303920482717699?s=03

    I must admit thought it was very fiscally conservative to (pre covid)

    - massively increase public spending
    - increase my marginal rate of tax to 52%
    - remove more and more people from the tax net
    - increase the dole by more than a person on the average industrial wage got (more than once)
    - despite pensioners having the lowest rates of deprivation/poverty/at risk of poverty (accordng to the CSO) and the country facing a demographics timebomb increase the old age pension repeatedly
    https://mobile.twitter.com/darragh_mor/status/1328447889127968771?s=20
    Don't forget housing, intentionally making an utter balls of that every single day as well.


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    #5180
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Bowie wrote: »
    Accused of leaking a confidential document to a pal.
    He admitted it.

    You are confusing making excuses as to why with the fact that he did it.

    Nope. He admitted giving a copy of an agreement to the head of a doctors union in order to include them in the agreement. Simples. No?


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    #5181
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Nope. He admitted giving a copy of an agreement to the head of a doctors union in order to include them in the agreement. Simples. No?

    So you are calling Leo a liar??


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    #5182
    expectationlost
    Registered Users Posts: 11,886 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    https://www.kildarestreet.com/debate/?id=2020-11-03a.443
    Leo Varadkar
    I was wrong in the way I went about it


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    #5183
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    So you are calling Leo a liar??

    No. Just that he could have gone about it slightly differently.

    He did nothing wrong.


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    #5184
    Yurt2
    Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Deleted User wrote: »
    No. Just that he could have gone about it slightly differently.

    He did nothing wrong.




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    #5185
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Nope. He admitted giving a copy of an agreement to the head of a doctors union in order to include them in the agreement. Simples. No?

    He admitted passing a confidential document to his pal. Leo said this himself.
    You seem to think why he claims he did it means he didn't.


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    #5186
    James Brown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    No. Just that he could have gone about it slightly differently.

    He did nothing wrong.

    He admitted he did.
    I think the fact he wasn't held to account has you confused.


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    #5187
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    Bowie wrote: »
    He admitted he did.
    I think the fact he wasn't held to account yet has you confused.
    Fix'd.

    We live in anticipation.


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    #5188
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    No. Just that he could have gone about it slightly differently.

    He did nothing wrong.

    He admitted that he had done wrong. He also stated in the Dail that the document was not public. He himself stated it was confidential. You are contradicting Leo’s own words.


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    #5189
    elefant
    Registered Users Posts: 4,662 ✭✭✭elefant


    He didn't do anything wrong. He just made an error in a specific and limited way.


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    #5190
    Traumadoc
    Registered Users Posts: 2,523 ✭✭✭Traumadoc


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Nope. He admitted giving a copy of an agreement to the head of a doctors union in order to include them in the agreement. Simples. No?

    So when he says it was an "error" was he making an error?


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    #5191
    Pintman Paddy Losty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    Lads... You're like a dog with a bone. This one is over. SIPO won't do jack ****. The gardaí hate the shinners more than anyone in this country, with the exception of maybe the Defence Forces. Not a hope they'll investigate this in any meaningful way.

    I'd say they had a right good laugh a Chay Bowes and the editor of the Village ringing up making complaints. :D


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