Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

CrazyFather1

McMurphy wrote: »

The first reply to that says more.

"Do we just suspend laws because of a pandemic"?

Used to be "what about brexit" by the way.

Maybe I am using twitter wrong but the first response I see is

If only (SF) were allowed to "move on", Marcus.... but FF/FG/LAB have an obsessive fascination with that party's past.. (whilst being totally blinkered about their own)
then
Then why don't FFG move on from attacking SF during this pandemic about something that happened 50 years ago? Why didn't FF&FG accept SF's proposal for a national government to tackle the pandemic rather than having a country without a new government for almost 5 months after GE.

Both twitter account which only post about political topics and nothing else. Make your own mind up on them.

Sinn Fein called for vote of no confidence, got it, lost it. Still going on about it. What s the plan now? call for another vote of no confidence?

FrancieBrady

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

The first post on the twitter video says it all

"Guys just move on we’re in the middle of a pandemic"

Yet huge amounts of Dáil time were used up over a 4 year old tweet. Not a mention on here to 'move on, there's a pandemic'.

Nor should there have been if there was a case to answer. A pandemic is not a smokescreen for wrongdoing.

Fann Linn

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

Maybe I am using twitter wrong but the first response I see is

If only (SF) were allowed to "move on", Marcus.... but FF/FG/LAB have an obsessive fascination with that party's past.. (whilst being totally blinkered about their own)
then
Then why don't FFG move on from attacking SF during this pandemic about something that happened 50 years ago? Why didn't FF&FG accept SF's proposal for a national government to tackle the pandemic rather than having a country without a new government for almost 5 months after GE.

Both twitter account which only post about political topics and nothing else. Make your own mind up on them.

Sinn Fein called for vote of no confidence, got it, lost it. Still going on about it. What s the plan now? call for another vote of no confidence?

Fionnan Sheehen of the Indo said on Morning Ireland today that new info has been brought to light. So perhaps there is more to see here.

Brendan Bendar

McMurphy wrote: »

#HarrisTheLiar is trending now too along with #LeoTheLeak . Mmmm.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/harristheliar?s=09

https://twitter.com/hashtag/LeoTheLeak?s=09

He won't like that, I'd say he feels like a right bellend now, and him after voting confidence in Leo and all.

Was 18 other covids Simon really the health minister at all?

Or was he health minister, the same way Dmitry Medvedev was Russian President for a few years, wink wink?

Move along Randall, bunch of bots pumpin’ the hasher ....same auld cliches from the squats.

Hardly ground breaking stuff, one would opine.

CrazyFather1

Fann Linn wrote: »

Fionnan Sheehen of the Indo said on Morning Ireland today that new info has been brought to light. So perhaps there is more to see here.

So?

A journalist trying to keep a story going, I am astonished. I was fully expecting him to say "Nothing to see here, no point buying my paper"

McMurphy

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

Maybe I am using twitter wrong but the first response I see is......

Perhaps you are, and you wouldn't be the first to do so either, yesterday a lad on here thought a politician retweeting something was them commenting.

It would help if you linked to said tweet though, like I'm doing now.


https://twitter.com/gtw73/status/1352021461494542342?s=19

Dempo1

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

So?

A journalist trying to keep a story going, I am astonished. I was fully expecting him to say "Nothing to see here, no point buying my paper"

No not a Journalist, it follows on from a FOI request from Pearse Doherty, Independent reporting on same as have numerous media sources.

I'm quite enjoying this, Leaky Leo Saga

Interesting all the same that his Buddy or not so buddy is no longer a media darling, not a whimper or live interview from his GP surgery in months, that has to be a good thing

CrazyFather1

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Yet huge amounts of Dáil time were used up over a 4 year old tweet. Not a mention on here to 'move on, there's a pandemic'.

Nor should there have been if there was a case to answer. A pandemic is not a smokescreen for wrongdoing.

If I am not mistaken Sinn Fein called for a vote of no confidence and spent week after week going on about this months ago. Maybe I am wrong?
Do you want the government to f**k around for another few months or actually try and help the people of Ireland?

McMurphy

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

If I am not mistaken Sinn Fein called for a vote of no confidence and spent week after week going on about this months ago. Maybe I am wrong?
Do you want the government to f**k around for another few months or actually try and help the people of Ireland?

Are you the same poster that didn't realise the Ceann Comhairle automatically retained their seat in a new election?

Maybe I'm mistaken too.

Dempo1

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

If I am not mistaken Sinn Fein called for a vote of no confidence and spent week after week going on about this months ago. Maybe I am wrong?
Do you want the government to f**k around for another few months or actually try and help the people of Ireland?

A simple resignation would do

FrancieBrady

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

So?

A journalist trying to keep a story going, I am astonished. I was fully expecting him to say "Nothing to see here, no point buying my paper"

Or a journalist who knows a story is gonna run and it's time to get on the bandwagon? The IT and Indo are late to this story but even they know the evidence has reached critical mass...they ain't stupid whatever else they are.

CrazyFather1

McMurphy wrote: »

Are you the same poster that didn't realise the Ceann Comhairle automatically retained their seat in a new election?

Maybe I'm mistaken too.

What?

Fann Linn

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

So?

A journalist trying to keep a story going, I am astonished. I was fully expecting him to say "Nothing to see here, no point buying my paper"

Grand so, I'll move along considering you pay more attention to 'tweeter no. 1', rather than the article itself or a journalist.
Btw, you're not tweeter no. 1 are you and secondly Sheehan doesn't write for the IT who broke the story.

McMurphy

Fann Linn wrote: »

Grand so, I'll move along considering you pay more attention to 'tweeter no. 1', rather than the article itself or a journalist.
Btw, you're not tweeter no. 1 are you?

Tis the same thing time and again fann, some think laws and regulations that don't suit them should be disregarded because "pandemic" that also extends, ironically enough to advice given to them by NPHET.

stockshares

Just covered on Claire Byrne now.

They played a clip from earlier of Pearse Doherty saying Harris misled the Dail

and

that the doc proves that while at the same time the dept denied Harris a copy of the Contract because it did not want it in the public domain, Leo provided it to MOT.

I'll post a link to the segment later.

Out of interest, did O’Tooles group seeing the document make any difference to the final outcome?

McMurphy

Deleted User wrote: »

Out of interest, did O’Tooles group seeing the document make any difference to the final outcome?

Relevance?

I mean, if someone stole a Ham out of Tesco would it matter if they ate it or not afterwards?

McMurphy

McMurphy wrote: »

Relevance?

I mean, if someone stole a Ham out of Tesco would it matter if they ate it or not afterwards?

No comparison. If you don’t know, that’s fine. Maybe other posters might be able to satisfy my curiosity.

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

No comparison. If you don’t know, that’s fine. Maybe other posters might be able to satisfy my curiosity.

Could have been so somebody could win a bet? We know this Tanaiste's frivolous fun nature at the most inappropriate time. :rolleyes:

As McMurphy says, thee is no requirement to prove personal or other gain in the legislation.

Fann Linn

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No comparison. If you don’t know, that’s fine. Maybe other posters might be able to satisfy my curiosity.

I'd say what's of greater concern is LV giving info to his 'friend, not friend' when even the relevant Minister couldn't get his hands on it.
That relevant minister might have further questions to answer also considering what was said in the vote of confidence debates now as well.
I'll leave this here for FG HQ;
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive!" (Sir Walter Scott, 1808)

Muahahaha

golfball37 wrote: »

I always had you down as someone who didn’t want sf near power. This narcissist has facilitated that awful vista and the failure to hold him to account only emboldens him and makes that event nearer than ever.
As Louise OReilly posted earlier on twitter Leo always delivers. Am sick of people defending him to get one up on the shinners, the defence is giving away two own goals for every point scored in the short term

Its kind of funny, FG supporters will defend the blatant lies their politicians tell in order to keep SF from power. But the more they do it they more voters are turned off them by it. Its a bit similar to the election campaign this time last year, all we heard out of FG for weeks was IRA this and IRA that and the more they did it the more SF went up in the polls. The irony is SFs single biggest asset is the behaviour of FG.

McMurphy

Deleted User wrote: »

No comparison. If you don’t know, that’s fine. Maybe other posters might be able to satisfy my curiosity.

Well maybe this will satisfy your curiosity. There could be multiple reasons for Leo leaking the document. Here's one possible reason.


Doctors’ group at centre of leak controversy had threatened Fine Gael with protests

The National Association of General Practitioners (NAGP) warned Fine Gael last year that its members would individually campaign against the party in local and European elections if the Government continued to exclude the union from negotiations on the new GP contract.

The NAGP wrote to Fine Gael chairman Martin Heydon in February 2019 requesting a meeting to discuss its exclusion from negotiations on the new GP contract. A large number of NAGP members had protested outside Leinster House the previous week.“The activity could involve up to 2,100 individual GPs informing their patients personally abut the health policies of Fine Gael in the upcoming local and European elections and the detrimental effect these policies are having,” he added.

The NAGP was a rival organisation to the IMO and conducted a sustained campaign aimed at Fine Gael in the early party of 2019 to be allowed become a party to the talks on the new contract.

Not a great look regardless.

Brendan Bendar

Deleted User wrote: »

Doherty on dail tv now......dismantling lies left,right and centre



Edit:high quality stuff

His own or Mary Lou’s?

Fann Linn

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

His own or Mary Lou’s?

News on One now Brenners. And there was lads only saying a few hours ago it was just the twitterati!

McMurphy

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

His own or Mary Lou’s?

Is #McDonaldTheLiar trending on Twitter now too

McMurphy

McMurphy wrote: »

Is #McDonaldTheLiar trending on Twitter now too

Why would he lie to doherty of all people....he's dismantled yet again


How long until varadkar blames someone else

McMurphy

McMurphy wrote: »

Well maybe this will satisfy your curiosity. There could be multiple reasons for Leo leaking the document. Here's one possible reason.


Doctors’ group at centre of leak controversy had threatened Fine Gael with protests





Not a great look regardless.

That doesn’t say that it made any difference. Only that one party threatened bribery to get their own way.

Brendan Bendar

McMurphy wrote: »

Is #McDonaldTheLiar trending on Twitter now too

Decent people don’t resort to hashery Randall.

All the auld ‘shouts from the squats’ are there

‘Telling lies’ XXxtheLiar’ ‘ NotaniceParty’ etc....

That’s just rubbish Randall, I’m surprised you’d lower yourself to that stuff.

Usually above that in fairness.

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

That doesn’t say that it made any difference. Only that one party threatened bribery to get their own way.

How many times does it need to be said, there is no requirement in the legislation to prove an advantage was gained. The reasons for that are obvious to everyone but you seemingly.

Fann Linn

FrancieBrady wrote: »

How many times does it need to be said, there is no requirement in the legislation to prove an advantage was gained. The reasons for that are obvious to everyone but you seemingly.

I suppose in Lowry's county one would expect advantages to be gained.