Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

Bubbaclaus

RandomViewer wrote: »

Most Gaurds vote for FG, fact

Whats a Gaurd and what's your source? And also your source that it would be an "issue", whatever that is meant to imply?

Brendan Bendar

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Whats a Gaurd and what's your source? And also your source that it would be an "issue", whatever that is meant to imply?

They drink out of them in Egypt apparently?

maccored

costacorta wrote: »

That’s like most of the SF bots on here who spend 24/7 defending SF and same giving out about government but then say I have nothing to do with SF and usually vote SD .. Oh the irony !! .

bots :pac: jaysus. anyone disagrees with the FF/FG lackies then they're bots :rolleyes:

James Brown

blanch152 wrote: »

Two very different occasions and two very different funerals.

One was a political stunt marking the departure of a criminal thug, the other was a solemn State funeral for a Garda.

If you can't tell the difference, there is something weird going on.

Complete hypocrisy.
So if SF were in government it would be okay? Some how I don't think so.
Was his family there for ****s and giggles?

There is absolutely no difference as regard Covid. Fact.

James Brown

markodaly wrote: »

Again, you have nothing but a belief and opinion.

Remember, the claim was not that media show some bias, the claim is that the Government/Leo/FG exert editorial control over RTE and the Irish Times.

Some claim, but no proof, which I guess makes that clam false.

Yes, based on facts.

I don't know if they are. We are having a discussion. I believe the Irish Times is biased based on their reporting. That's my opinion. RTE might be just slow.

I would suggest it's an opinion you disagree with because we don't know categorically if they are or are not. You are assuming they are not just 'cause... means as much. If you believe it impossible that any bias exists and the views and interests of the owners are not considered...I'd call you naïve.

J.O. Farmer

RandomViewer wrote: »

Lot of them didnt vote, Varadkar may have played well with the Iwoke but left the older ones cold,

So nobody who voted no.1 for FG in 2016 voted no. 1 in 2020, they just didn't vote. If that's true then it says something about those FG voters.

If they felt nobody else was worth voting for they should've spoiled their vote, at least they'd have used it.

RandomViewer

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Whats a Gaurd and what's your source? And also your source that it would be an "issue", whatever that is meant to imply?

Korean auto correct

RandomViewer

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

So nobody who voted no.1 for FG in 2016 voted no. 1 in 2020, they just didn't vote. If that's true then it says something about those FG voters.

If they felt nobody else was worth voting for they should've spoiled their vote, at least they'd have used it.

Old ones, party or nothing

J.O. Farmer

RandomViewer wrote: »

Old ones, party or nothing

Doesn't say much for Fine Gael long term if that's the only voter they've got. 20 years time a lot of them will be dead.

RandomViewer

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

Doesn't say much for Fine Gael long term if that's the only voter they've got. 20 years time a lot of them will be dead.

Sure what have they to offer anyone? Elitist pricks that only speak to you when they have too, up to their eyes in crime,

zanador

RandomViewer wrote: »

Sure what have they to offer anyone? Elitist pricks that only speak to you when they have too, up to their eyes in crime,

I live in a place with multiple council estates, and hap, etc etc. When I moved into a social housing house in a mixed estate (like council but privately managed by a company and a few different rules) a local fg councillor who I've known years was a) surprised I was council because I don't 'sound like it' and because I work and b) had never met anyone in council before. The man is in his sixties and has been a councillor for about 30 of them.

Not saying they're all.like that but when it comes to vulnerable communities we turn to other parties for help - actually wouldn't even occur to me to go to FG councillors at all.

dubrov

zanador wrote:

I live in a place with multiple council estates, and hap, etc etc. When I moved into a social housing house in a mixed estate (like council but privately managed by a company and a few different rules) a local fg councillor who I've known years was a) surprised I was council because I don't 'sound like it' and because I work and b) had never met anyone in council before. The man is in his sixties and has been a councillor for about 30 of them.

zanador wrote:

Not saying they're all.like that but when it comes to vulnerable communities we turn to other parties for help - actually wouldn't even occur to me to go to FG councillors at all.

Sounds like a numpty but in fairness, there aren't likely many votes in a council estate for a FG candidate. In the same way, I can't see SF focusing their campaign in Foxrock.

zanador

dubrov wrote: »

Sounds like a numpty but in fairness, there aren't likely many votes in a council estate for a FG candidate. In the same way, I can't see SF focusing their campaign in Foxrock.

Which came first the chicken or the egg?

RandomViewer

dubrov wrote: »

Sounds like a numpty but in fairness, there aren't likely many votes in a council estate for a FG candidate. In the same way, I can't see SF focusing their campaign in Foxrock.

SDLP lost most of their support up North with notions like that

dubrov

zanador wrote: »

Which came first the chicken or the egg?

It's not surprising that voters are drawn towards parties with policies most likely to benefit themselves.

dubrov

RandomViewer wrote: »

SDLP lost most of their support up North with notions like that

The SDLP are a left wing party and had strong support in council estates up North. Your comparison makes no sense.

RandomViewer

dubrov wrote: »

The SDLP are a left wing party and had strong support in council estates up North. Your comparison makes no sense.

Not bothering to canvass where they thought there were no votes, poster said there would be few votes for SF in Foxrock but I'd would be fairly sure they still did the doors,

blanch152

RandomViewer wrote: »

Sure what have they to offer anyone? Elitist pricks that only speak to you when they have too, up to their eyes in crime,

Classy indeed.

Laughable to claim that FG are up to their eyes in crime.

blanch152

RandomViewer wrote: »

Most Guards vote for FG, fact

If it is a fact, you will have a link to something to prove it.

Otherwise, it's just a prejudiced opinion.

BackOfMyBag

"laughable to claim that fine gael are up to their eyes in crime"

personally i think its even more laughable that they used to think of themselves as being the law and order party !
tax evasion and violent assault, insurance fraud , expenses fraud ,and now there leader has been caught red handed being corrupt and is possibly facing criminal charges and a trial !!!!

there and fianna fails times are both running out, varadkar is being heavily bet upon to be gone before summer I seen today !

Johnthemanager

BackOfMyBag wrote: »

"laughable to claim that fine gael are up to their eyes in crime"

personally i think its even more laughable that they used to think of themselves as being the law and order party !
tax evasion and violent assault, insurance fraud , expenses fraud ,and now there leader has been caught red handed being corrupt and is possibly facing criminal charges and a trial !!!!

there and fianna fails times are both running out, varadkar is being heavily bet upon to be gone before summer I seen today !

Isn't there a current senator who assaulted a sleeping man with a bar of chocolate at a music festival?

Isn't he also awaiting trial for another serious assault?

smurgen

BackOfMyBag wrote: »

"laughable to claim that fine gael are up to their eyes in crime"

personally i think its even more laughable that they used to think of themselves as being the law and order party !
tax evasion and violent assault, insurance fraud , expenses fraud ,and now there leader has been caught red handed being corrupt and is possibly facing criminal charges and a trial !!!!

there and fianna fails times are both running out, varadkar is being heavily bet upon to be gone before summer I seen today !

And all of that is the stuff that we know about with a media that is sympathetic to them. Imagine we had journalists that held them to the same standards as other parties. There'd be alot unearthed.

Rows Grower

Johnthemanager wrote: »

Isn't there a current senator who assaulted a sleeping man with a bar of chocolate at a music festival?

Isn't he also awaiting trial for another serious assault?

This is beyond the beyond stuff.

James Brown

smurgen wrote: »

And all of that is the stuff that we know about with a media that is sympathetic to them. Imagine we had journalists that held them to the same standards as other parties. There'd be alot unearthed.

They either don't realise or don't care about the knock on effect their cronyism has on society.

smurgen

James Brown wrote: »

They either don't realise or don't care about the knock on effect their cronyism has on society.

They realize. It's arrogance,narcissism and greed.

Johnthemanager

Rows Grower wrote: »

This is beyond the beyond stuff.

I take it you know the story?

jpfahy

RandomViewer wrote: »

Most Guards vote for FG, fact

Actually Guards have traditionally voted FF as they always gave pay increases whereas
FG did not

Rows Grower

Johnthemanager wrote: »

I take it you know the story?

First I heard of it was on here tonight.

I don't think I want to hear the details to be quite honest.

Johnthemanager

Rows Grower wrote: »

First I heard of it was on here tonight.

I don't think I want to hear the details to be quite honest.

Vile stuff. Party of law and order indeed.

markodaly

RandomViewer wrote: »

Most Guards vote for FG, fact

Source? :pac: