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Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

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    #1292
    Captain_Crash
    Registered Users Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    sabat wrote: »
    My my aren't these four partying gentlemen rather wide-eyed...

    https://mobile.twitter.com/fionamacky/status/1322668634473435136

    Edit: prob best not to mention what I had written here. It’s not important in the context of the matter.


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    #1293
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Depends on the previous consultations surely? This line sounds fairly above board "this was seen as a continuation of the decision by the Government to consult with the NAGP and its GP members and keep them informed throughout."

    Reads to me like leo was slipping em nitbits of info all along and has scuppered the claim the document was finalised so didnt matter tbh


    Surely this needs clarifying


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    #1294
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Depends on the previous consultations surely? This line sounds fairly above board "this was seen as a continuation of the decision by the Government to consult with the NAGP and its GP members and keep them informed throughout."

    We'll see what IMO make of that. Also it looks like MOT is confirming it helped him in his work. That means he lobbies LV for something that helped him in a commercial sense. That digs a bigger hole.


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    #1295
    Bubbaclaus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    joemurt wrote: »
    Yep, your original question was what do I mean by owners.



    2 different questions.

    Well that's one way of avoiding having to give an answer I suppose.


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    #1296
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Reads to me like leo was slipping em nitbits of info all along and has scuppered the claim the document was finalised so didnt matter tbh

    Course it reads like that to you, you want it to be a conspiracy. Same as someone who fervently believes Leo is a great guy will see it as fine.

    Imo, we don't really know enough about the previous communication to know either way.


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    #1297
    joemurt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭joemurt


    smurgen wrote: »
    They played a blinder. Two of the statements put out by LV and MO'T are weak as water and confirmed the details. They're goosed.




    And still haven't even bothered to address the other issues raised by the village;
    - Varadkars remark regarding f+ck refugees

    - Access to contracts for direct provision

    - Flanagans gig


    Only concern atm seems to be the contract breach and a 10 year stretch.


    A point that needs clarity on the message regarding direct provision contracts and M O'Ts messages; was the bag of money emoji to indicate a) the money to be made in DP centers? or b) M O'T looking for payment in return for access to a contract? Big difference.



    This is why the Garda should have stepped in. a or b?


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    #1298
    [Deleted User]
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    smurgen wrote: »
    We'll see what IMO make of that. Also it looks like MOT is confirming it helped him in his work. That means he lobbies LV for something that helped him in a commercial sense. That digs a bigger hole.

    I dunno, think it's a stretch, this is fairly legitimate position, surely?

    "We could not adopt a position on the programme for chronic disease management as a union, without full access to the details that it contained,” Dr O Tuathail said, adding that it “was wrong for one group of GPs to have access to the details of a chronic disease management programme, and for another group of GPs not to have equal access to that information, given that the NAGP and its members were involved in its formation”.

    “The programme for chronic disease management was to be rolled out to all GPs, and therefore all GPs had a right to understand what the programme entailed, and what would be required of them,”"


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    #1299
    joemurt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭joemurt


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    Well that's one way of avoiding having to give an answer I suppose.


    To which of your questions do you want me to answer?


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    #1300
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    joemurt wrote: »
    And still haven't even bothered to address the other issues raised by the village;
    - Varadkars remark regarding f+ck refugees

    - Access to contracts for direct provision

    - Flanagans gig


    Only concern atm seems to be the contract breach and a 10 year stretch.


    A point that needs clarity on the message regarding direct provision contracts and M O'Ts messages; was the bag of money emoji to indicate a) the money to be made in DP centers? or b) M O'T looking for payment in return for access to a contract? Big difference.



    This is why the Garda should have stepped in. a or b?

    Those reports are third hand though, they haven't released Leo texting anything like that, afaik? Would actually be a massive story if they had those texts from Leo, tbf.


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    #1301
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I dunno, think it's a stretch, this is fairly legitimate position, surely?

    "We could not adopt a position on the programme for chronic disease management as a union, without full access to the details that it contained,” Dr O Tuathail said, adding that it “was wrong for one group of GPs to have access to the details of a chronic disease management programme, and for another group of GPs not to have equal access to that information, given that the NAGP and its members were involved in its formation”.

    “The programme for chronic disease management was to be rolled out to all GPs, and therefore all GPs had a right to understand what the programme entailed, and what would be required of them,”"

    That's justification for what they done. Not a defense.

    If they were all know to the public why post the copy? Why not sent him a link to public information.

    Read the messages. It was about getting better info than the other union. The steal their thunder line indicates this.

    https://twitter.com/PoliticsWatch14/status/1323010830821109761?s=09


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    #1302
    [Deleted User]
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    joemurt wrote: »
    And still haven't even bothered to address the other issues raised by the village;
    - Varadkars remark regarding f+ck refugees

    - Access to contracts for direct provision

    - Flanagans gig


    Only concern atm seems to be the contract breach and a 10 year stretch.


    A point that needs clarity on the message regarding direct provision contracts and M O'Ts messages; was the bag of money emoji to indicate a) the money to be made in DP centers? or b) M O'T looking for payment in return for access to a contract? Big difference.



    This is why the Garda should have stepped in. a or b?

    Why?


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    #1303
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users Posts: 9,160 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Where are these whatsapp messages? Did I miss them?

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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    #1304
    Bubbaclaus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    joemurt wrote: »
    To which of your questions do you want me to answer?

    Sure you already answered one. Gave a very detailed response how by owners you mean owners. Informative.

    Who are the owners of FG? Come on now, no excuses this time. Just answer it.


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    #1305
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Worth noting also that this organization that Leo's mate was in that Leo helped was investigated by the Garda Fraud squad

    "The Garda National Economic Crime Bureau and the Office of the Director of Corporate Enforcement have begun a criminal investigation into the National Association of General Practitioners. The association imploded in May, leaving €400,000 in debts"

    https://www.businesspost.ie/health/the-leaked-tape-and-the-report-that-scuppered-the-nagp-eed45812


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    #1306
    joemurt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭joemurt


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Why?


    LOL. Come on.


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    #1307
    joemurt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭joemurt


    Bubbaclaus wrote: »
    Sure you already answered one. Gave a very detailed response how by owners you mean owners. Informative.

    Who are the owners of FG? Come on now, no excuses this time. Just answer it.


    You'd only laugh at me on who I think the owners of FG are. So we move on.



    What do you think the bag of money emoji M O'T was messaging to others regarding DP contracts was about? A or B or neither?


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    #1308
    foundation10
    Registered Users Posts: 242 ✭✭foundation10


    I haven't heard any FG's TD's batting on the media for Leo today except for Pascal Donoghue, do they fear the goose is cooked and more revelations will follow and want to align themselves now with the likes of Coveney?


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    #1309
    Bubbaclaus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    joemurt wrote: »
    You'd only laugh at me on who I think the owners of FG are. So we move on.



    What do you think the bag of money emoji M O'T was messaging to others regarding DP contracts was about? A or B or neither?

    Ah go, tell me. I could do with a laugh.


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    #1310
    foundation10
    Registered Users Posts: 242 ✭✭foundation10


    joemurt wrote: »
    You'd only laugh at me on who I think the owners of FG are. So we move on.



    What do you think the bag of money emoji M O'T was messaging to others regarding DP contracts was about? A or B or neither?


    He saw money in it for himself and his buddies.


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    #1311
    joemurt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭joemurt


    foundation10 wrote: »
    He saw money in it for himself and his buddies.




    Could it be interpreted that M O'Tuathail was looking for cash for access to DP contracts?


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    #1312
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 13,308 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    So Leo will address the issue in the Dail on Tuesday.

    Probably Tuesday evening to miss the 9 O'clock News. And then the story will be swallowed up by coverage of US politics. Irish journalists have turned into US politics experts lately.


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    #1313
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users Posts: 16,332 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    So Leo will address the issue in the Dail on Tuesday.

    Probably Tuesday evening to miss the 9 O'clock News. And then the story will be swallowed up by coverage of US politics. Irish journalists have turned into US politics experts lately.

    I don't think this is the kind of news that can buried if it's bad enough


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    #1314
    stayback
    Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭stayback


    joemurt wrote: »
    It highlights the fact that Varadkar received sufficient amount of votes to reach the quota to be elected............as apposed to Simon Harris who didn't reach the quota I'd imagine.

    See it’s this type of talk about getting elected on the 5th count drive me crazy. We have a system of proportional representation in this country which means you get to give a preference for each candidate. If a party runs more than one candidate then you split the vote. Leo finished second 300 votes off the quota.. FG ran 2 candidates hence the vote was split. For example Sinn Fein ran one candidate in that constituency hence hoovered up all the votes . If they had run 2 candidates they might have won no seat or they might have got elected on the 5th count.

    I’m just trying to explain this nonsense I hear about he only got elected on the 5th count. It doesn’t matter once you get elected it’s called vote managment.

    For the record I am not an FG supporter.


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    #1315
    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users Posts: 14,336 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    So Leo will address the issue in the Dail on Tuesday.

    Probably Tuesday evening to miss the 9 O'clock News. And then the story will be swallowed up by coverage of US politics. Irish journalists have turned into US politics experts lately.

    SF will probably follow up with a vote of no confidence which will be defeated and that will be it.


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    #1316
    Phoebas
    Registered Users Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    joemurt wrote: »
    And still haven't even bothered to address the other issues raised by the village;
    - Varadkars remark regarding f+ck refugees

    You are just shít posting now.

    There is no 'Varadkars remark'. This is just somebody said that somebody said...


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    #1317
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    #SackVaradkar trending


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    #1318
    StupidLikeAFox
    Registered Users Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    stayback wrote: »
    See it’s this type of talk about getting elected on the 5th count drive me crazy. We have a system of proportional representation in this country which means you get to give a preference for each candidate. If a party runs more than one candidate then you split the vote. Leo finished second 300 votes off the quota.. FG ran 2 candidates hence the vote was split. For example Sinn Fein ran one candidate in that constituency hence hoovered up all the votes . If they had run 2 candidates they might have won no seat or they might have got elected on the 5th count.

    I’m just trying to explain this nonsense I hear about he only got elected on the 5th count. It doesn’t matter once you get elected it’s called vote managment.

    For the record I am not an FG supporter.

    This should be stickied or automatically reposted everyone somebody posts that "X got in on the Xth count"


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    #1319
    Himpy5
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 70 ✭✭Himpy5


    StupidLikeAFox wrote: »
    This should be stickied or automatically reposted everyone somebody posts that "X got in on the Xth count"

    So we have to choose between Leo the leaker and Simon "sutherland" Coveney

    All is forgiven Leo


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    #1320
    gadarnol
    Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭gadarnol


    A vote of no confidence will really nail the govt parties. FF will have to back Varadkar and damn themselves even more for the next election. The Greens are in serious trouble. Varadkar’s resignation may well be the price of Greens continuing in govt. FG will have to swallow it.


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    #1321
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    You love an aul conspiracy theory. Remember all the predictions you made about the Dean having CCTV of Maria Bailey falling off a swing.

    Now you think that the Village have bizarrely decided to hold back the most damaging stuff.... Yeah makes sense....

    I'm afraid the weak story they published is all there is to it. A total non story.


    What happened Maria? Did she get her money? Is she still a TD? We dont know what the Dean had becasue they never had to show their hand. Leo is in the same leaky boat as Maria except she probably had more friends in FG then than Leo has now.


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