Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

Plumbthedepths

[Deleted User] wrote: »

A GP texted Pat Kenny to say that the document was of no consequence. Soooo. What’s the problem?

Slight problem sharing a confidential document that despite the claims of some was not in wide circulation. Does give weight to the claims of D. Rabb that Leo leaked information about the Brexit negotiations. He now has confirmed he's untrustworthy to all and sundry. Not a reputation a leader would be happy to cultivate. His days of pontificating in the Dail are over.

s1ippy

IAMAMORON wrote: »

10 year jail term :P

Never knew Leo was a raver either:D

Shooting kittens

Non-story, even the bots know it now.

Have you not seen the picture of MOT and Leo gurning the face off themselves. Who knows what the "Inner Sanctum" will reveal next.

The stray cat thing was an American Psycho reference. It's looking more like a documentary about the dodgy prick every day. He's a sociopath.

Plumbthedepths

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Slight problem sharing a confidential document that despite the claims of some was not in wide circulation. Does give weight to the claims of D. Rabb that Leo leaked information about the Brexit negotiations. He now has confirmed he's untrustworthy to all and sundry. Not a reputation a leader would be happy to cultivate. His days of pontificating in the Dail are over.

The contents of the document were already in the public domain.

Fann Linn

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The contents of the document were already in the public domain.

Not according to Stephen Donnelly and the opposition at the time.

does anyone know how the watsap messages, photos? came into being?
The doc sure as hell didnt want them out, so can we then assume they were either screen grabbed without consent or hacked or something of that nature?

if that's the case, there could be more, and there could be worse to come, is that fair to assume?

seamus

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Slight problem sharing a confidential document that despite the claims of some was not in wide circulation. Does give weight to the claims of D. Rabb that Leo leaked information about the Brexit negotiations. He now has confirmed he's untrustworthy to all and sundry. Not a reputation a leader would be happy to cultivate. His days of pontificating in the Dail are over.

You're massively overplaying this IMHO.

If people accept that the document was mostly public and giving it to the NAGP was of little consequence, then it'll be forgotten in a week as we watch the aftermath of the US election.

The "leak" tag is something that only an enclave on Twitter know or care about, it's not something that will stick in the minds of anyone who matters.

Plumbthedepths

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The contents of the document were already in the public domain.

Which begs the question why did Leo need to provide it to his mate, if it were public?
Funny though Donnelly hadn't received a copy.

Fann Linn

rusty cole wrote: »

does anyone know how the watsap messages, photos? came into being?
The doc sure as hell didnt want them out, so can we then assume they were either screen grabbed without consent or hacked or something of that nature?

if that's the case, there could be more, and there could be worse to come, is that fair to assume?

Village magazine are saying there is more.

Peter Flynt

If a politician in his forties on any side of the house were found to be passing private and confidential (unknown to the public or TDs) government details to a 29 year old female (whose address he solicited) known to have been supporting him for leader and pictured with him at parties in pubs then everyone would draw the same conclusion.

Varadkar was passing information to a gay man and people ask to what benefit?

zerosugarbuzz

Deleted User wrote: »

A GP texted Pat Kenny to say that the document was of no consequence. Soooo. What’s the problem?

Someone who says he is a GP text a radio show, lol. God, naive much.

Fann Linn

IAMAMORON wrote: »

You also know the show is up when all the bots start going all Rumplestillskin with the posts.

Non story.

Thanks god these guys didn't win the election, can you imagine how phucked the country would be at this point?

Same lines as Barry Cowan, 'don't mind us the other crowd are worse'.
Pathetic.

shatners bassoon

Whatever your opinion on the appropriate repercussions, suggesting that there's nothing to see here is embarrassing.

SouthWesterly

So MM is supporting Leo. Sleveen politics at is worst but not surprising with the reputation MM has.He'll do whatever is needed to save his own skin, to hell with doing whats right.

McMurphy

I believe it was Kevin Doyle that was on with Pat Kenny a while ago, they seem to believe that it all could hinge on what (if any) this other information is that the village claim to possess.

There could be fireworks in the Dail this afternoon, it'll be very very entertaining for sure.

Loafing Oaf

Peter Flynt wrote: »

If a politician in his forties on any side of the house were found to be passing private and confidential (unknown to the public or TDs) government details to a 29 year old female (whose address he solicited) known to have been supporting him for leader and pictured with him at parties in pubs then everyone would draw the same conclusion.

Varadkar was passing information to a gay man and people ask to what benefit?

To a gay man called Matthew O'TOOLe. Yes it all adds up...

blanch152

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Leo's corrupt and the fan boys don't care.

For someone who voted Green i admire you stance on defend the liar.

Is it now acceptable for all TDs to send documents not for circulation to their mates?

A simple yes or no will do

Not defending the man.

Just pointing out the stupidity of the posts which keep claiming there was something criminal when there clearly wasn't, based on the information to date.

His critics on here lack credibility because most of them are fantasists who have lost the run of themselves.

Floppybits

zerosugarbuzz wrote: »

Someone who says he is a GP text a radio show, lol. God, naive much.

This is the same person that dismisses anything unless it is on RTE, the time or the Indo, outside of those 3 media channels everything else is deemed false or Sinners stirring the pot.

blanch152

Fann Linn wrote: »

Village magazine are saying there is more.

I am sure there is.

They are relying on a disgruntled Chas Bowes who was sent WhatsApp messages by O'Toole boasting about connections to Leo.

Were those connections real or imagined? So far, I am leaning towards the imagined, but if there is more evidence, let's see it.

Fann Linn

blanch152 wrote: »

I am sure there is.

They are relying on a disgruntled Chas Bowes who was sent WhatsApp messages by O'Toole boasting about connections to Leo.

Were those connections real or imagined? So far, I am leaning towards the imagined, but if there is more evidence, let's see it.

Agreed Blanch, I really do hope there's more.
And unpackaged just in time for 6.1 news.

Peter Flynt

Peter Flynt wrote: »

If a politician in his forties on any side of the house were found to be passing private and confidential (unknown to the public or TDs) government details to a 29 year old female (whose address he solicited) known to have been supporting him for leader and pictured with him at parties in pubs then everyone would draw the same conclusion.

Varadkar was passing information to a gay man and people ask to what benefit?

1000% i said this earlier in the thread and was laughed at...its the most plausible house of cards type intern and leader scenario you hear about all the time. Im interested in that aspect less than why or how those screen grabs went pubic.....i mean public....

paw patrol

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Like Stephen Donnelly is a political icon all of a sudden?

The same posters whinging about his appointment a few months ago....

It gets patronising after a while.

that's beautiful, hats off to you , really.


You answered my point with such a different point to the one I made that it couldn't even be labelled a tangent.


stop acting like your name suggests.

McMurphy

blanch152 wrote: »

I am sure there is.

They are relying on a disgruntled Chas Bowes who was sent WhatsApp messages by O'Toole boasting about connections to Leo.

Were those connections real or imagined? So far, I am leaning towards the imagined, but if there is more evidence, let's see it.

If there's anything more to come, it's most likely it'll be released while Leo is giving his account of what took place, or immediately afterwards going by Doyle* on Newstalk.

"Allowing Varadkar to hang himself" was how he put it.

*Open to correction that it was indeed Kevin Doyle, as I missed the name.

blanch152

Fann Linn wrote: »

Agreed Blanch, I really do hope there's more.
And unpackaged just in time for 6.1 news.

There will be more, but will it amount to anything more than O'Toole boasting about imagined influence?

I don't think so, but of course, I don't know, so wait and see.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

I am sure there is.

They are relying on a disgruntled Chas Bowes who was sent WhatsApp messages by O'Toole boasting about connections to Leo.

Were those connections real or imagined? So far, I am leaning towards the imagined, but if there is more evidence, let's see it.

blanch wants 'more evidence'?

The guy who routinely convicts on the basis of allegations wants more evidence in this case.

Gas.

boombang

For those that haven't seen it, an IT article outlining Paddy Cosgrave's involvement towards the end.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/who-are-the-main-players-in-the-varadkar-document-leak-1.4398276

I don't like Leo's slick and slimy behaviour and am keen to see him called to heel, but I really don't like Paddy Cosgrave. Is it simply the case that PC is stumping the money to Village for any legal action that could arise? I like seeing accountability for politicians, but that it comes about because of the personal crusade of rich jerks feels very wrong.

Wheety

The big question is how will Leo the Leak blame Sinn Féin in his statement later.

IAMAMORON

They are resorting to name calling and gay-bashing now, very petty.

Non Story.

dundalkfc10

McMurphy wrote: »

If there's anything more to come, it's most likely it'll be released while Leo is giving his account of what took place, or immediately afterwards going by Doyle* on Newstalk.

"Allowing Varadkar to hang himself" was how he put it.

*Open to correction that it was indeed Kevin Doyle, as I missed the name.

They are waiting for his apology (sorry his I done nothing wrong) speech and as soon as he lies, they will release the next bit

It's going to be a fun day

Maybe they will even release something beforehand to ruin his speech completely

dundalkfc10

IAMAMORON wrote: »

They are resorting to name calling and gay-bashing now, very petty.

Non Story.

Why is the Tanastie making a 20 min speech and then getting questioned for over 1 hour for something that's a non story?

Floppybits

Wheety wrote: »

The big question is how will Leo the Leak blame Sinn Féin in his statement later.

The big question is how will there ever be any accountability on the Dail now. FG supposedly the party of law and order and telling everyone that it's ok to leak documents through unauthorised back channels, regardless of whether the document is in the public or not, we had the justice minister on yesterday saying that this is ok, now what happens if another party in opposition leaks a confidential document how can they be held to account? There is no way that FG or FF now after backing Leo can ever hold anyone else to account.