Leo Varadkar story in The Village??? - Mod Notes and banned Users in OP updated 16/05

FrancieBrady

McMurphy wrote: »

Village magazine claiming "much more to come"

More info for public consumption; much more to come

The stench of sleaze and corruption will just get stronger and stronger for FG.

thomas 123

Gatling wrote: »

So far all they gave us was a few texts that amount to nothing so far ,I'd expect a text tomorrow saying lads coffee with Leo , followed by lad I'm having dinner with leo.

I think the texts and relationship are irrelevant, the point the document was shared is the crux of all of this.

The only thing I can see adding to calls for Leo to step down is if future texts show what he said yesterday to be false.

McMurphy

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The stench of sleaze and corruption will just get stronger and stronger for FG.

What was Chay Bowes hinting at earlier when he purposely tweeted to Paschal and Leo?

RandomViewer

Truthvader wrote: »

Read up to the link before making a thicko out of yourself. Garda assessment from earlier this year

Garda assessment from Drew, Thunderbirds have less puppet strings

FrancieBrady

McMurphy wrote: »

What was Chay Bowes hinting at earlier when he purposely tweeted to Paschal and Leo?

Still not sure. Someone posted clarification earlier I don't have time to follow up.

RandomViewer

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The stench of sleaze and corruption will just get stronger and stronger for FG.

Folks that's what FG core voters want, sleazy corrupt gombeen party , the only crime an FG TD can commit that will lose them votes is get caught

McMurphy

https://twitter.com/onon20401170/status/1323986371162329089?s=09

Bannasidhe

Truthvader wrote: »

Read the link. FFS

Well done on dragging yet another thread about those in govt down the SF tangent.
Ever wonder if B.S. deflection like this could play a part in the lack of accountability in this country?

Bubbaclaus

You'd feel bad for Matt O'Toole - from the WhatsApp screenshots you can tell he trusted Bowes so must feel like a gut punch to see their private messages being shared.

Then on the other side you had Leo dragging him through the mud during the questions in the Dail.

Getting punches from all angles.

McMurphy

McMurphy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/onon20401170/status/1323986371162329089?s=09

Any other country,what went on here would be a crime,and a fairly serious one at that


Jokeshop of a country,jokeshop of a parliment to let it happen,

Nothing ever fcuking changes here,

FrancieBrady

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

You'd feel bad for Matt O'Toole - from the WhatsApp screenshots you can tell he trusted Bowes so must feel like a gut punch to see their private messages being shared.

Then on the other side you had Leo dragging him through the mud during the questions in the Dail.

Getting punches from all angles.

Would you accept that Leo knew exactly what he was doing and told O'Tuathill what would happen if the IMO got wind of it?

seamus

McMurphy wrote: »

Village magazine claiming "much more to come"

More info for public consumption; much more to come

If it's more of the same, then there's feck all here.

MOT comes off looking like a gobsh1te but I see nothing that contradicts the current account.

In fact, if anything it strengthens Leo's account. MOT asks "how's tricks" and Leo ignores it. They're clearly not close friends.

Edit: If he sent the same DM to Leo that he sent to Harris, then that basically exonerates Leo completely. MOT asked for the contract in the interests of sharing it with GPs and "getting it over the line". Which is basically why Leo said he sent it.

Gregor Samsa

Was MOT really such an eejit that he shared screenshots of every message on his phone with Bowes? Who does that?

thomas 123

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

Was MOT really such an eejit that he shared screenshots of every message on his phone with Bowes? Who does that?

Someone who thinks they did something great I guess.

McMurphy

Gregor Samsa wrote: »

Was MOT really such an eejit that he shared screenshots of every message on his phone with Bowes? Who does that?

Leo is the bigger eegit for engaging in a WhatsApp messenger chat with him.

Smegging hell

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

You'd feel bad for Matt O'Toole - from the WhatsApp screenshots you can tell he trusted Bowes so must feel like a gut punch to see their private messages being shared.

Then on the other side you had Leo dragging him through the mud during the questions in the Dail.

Getting punches from all angles.

Can't say I feel bad for a GP who talks about rape in such a puerile and trivialising way.

Gooey Looey

seamus wrote: »

In fact, if anything it strengthens Leo's account. MOT asks "how's tricks" and Leo ignores it. They're clearly not close friends.

No it doesn't, you don't know he didn't answer, it could've been answered on another media or even meetup.

thomas 123

https://drive.google.com/file/d/11Uy5vmEwqoxLfhGaq2DDFQy3DDyNJk-L/view?usp=drivesdk

Claims he did meet Harris for lunch “on the quite”. Contradiction no 1.

McMurphy

seamus wrote: »

If it's more of the same, then there's feck all here.

MOT comes off looking like a gobsh1te but I see nothing that contradicts the current account.

In fact, if anything it strengthens Leo's account. MOT asks "how's tricks" and Leo ignores it. They're clearly not close friends.

Edit: If he sent the same DM to Leo that he sent to Harris, then that basically exonerates Leo completely. MOT asked for the contract in the interests of sharing it with GPs and "getting it over the line". Which is basically why Leo said he sent it.

Not s line of defence I'd like to take if I were Leo.

Bubbaclaus

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Would you accept that Leo knew exactly what he was doing and told O'Tuathill what would happen if the IMO got wind of it?

Not sure how I can accept that given there appears to be no evidence of that? I can only go on what is in front of me.

stockshares

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

You'd feel bad for Matt O'Toole - from the WhatsApp screenshots you can tell he trusted Bowes so must feel like a gut punch to see their private messages being shared.

Then on the other side you had Leo dragging him through the mud during the questions in the Dail.

Getting punches from all angles.

You feel bad for MOT?

He comes across as a Charlatan

zerosugarbuzz

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

You'd feel bad for Matt O'Toole - from the WhatsApp screenshots you can tell he trusted Bowes so must feel like a gut punch to see their private messages being shared.

Then on the other side you had Leo dragging him through the mud during the questions in the Dail.

Getting punches from all angles.

Any sympathy I might have had for him was deleted by his money bags emoji 💰. Lowlife through and through, especially for a GP.

FrancieBrady

Deleted User wrote: »

Any other country,what went on here would be a crime,and a fairly serious one at that


Jokeshop of a country,jokeshop of a parliment to let it happen

I think yesterday was more or less unprecedented for the simple reason that if this had happened in the past Varadkar would be gone long before he needed to come into the Dáil.
My analysis says that this toxic power swap has led us to this.

Bubbaclaus

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

You'd feel bad for Matt O'Toole - from the WhatsApp screenshots you can tell he trusted Bowes so must feel like a gut punch to see their private messages being shared.

Then on the other side you had Leo dragging him through the mud during the questions in the Dail.

Getting punches from all angles.

not a bit, why would you feel bad?? he only got caught that's all. If this was never in the public domain, he's be on TV telling everyone what's right and wrong whilst trying to profit from immigration issues and boasting about having strings pulled all the time for his benefit...oh poor guy, his shiny portion of the golden circle turned out to be fools gold and you have to feel bad for him..

I get what you mean in that he was feckt over twice but as Alec baldwin says in Glengarry...you wanna play in the mans game!!! hit the bricks pal!!

seamus

Gooey Looey wrote: »

No it doesn't, you don't know he didn't answer, it could've been answered on another media or even meetup.

It could. But if that exists, it hasn't been shared.

Based on what has been shared, it supports Varadkar's account.

NSAman

Basics here....

Who sends something with "Confidential, Not for Circulation"???

I think the Big lettering may have caused the "error in judgement". Maybe he is used to small letters?

Anyone defending this has dubious moral character in my opinion.

Hubertj

Is there going to be an investigation to determine the facts, make a ruling at had out a punishment? Or is that only done within a party?
I don’t think Leo should resign because other idiots such as Murphy say he should. He should resign or be removed if he has broken x law or regulation or y person personally benefitted from the sharing of the documents

FrancieBrady

Bubbaclaus wrote: »

Not sure how I can accept that given there appears to be no evidence of that? I can only go on what is in front of me.

Don't you think Leo would have told him why he was giving him the document?

Seems to me he was warned very strongly about what would happen if the IMO found out....and it wasn't that it was in the national interest.

Never mind though, I am quite enjoying the squirming from confronting the reality of what was going on here in FG supporters.

stockshares

Make sure to check the Pdf screenshots from the village article and not just the Tweet.

https://villagemagazine.ie/more-info-for-public-consumption-much-more-to-come/

Pdf
https://drive.google.com/file/d/11Uy5vmEwqoxLfhGaq2DDFQy3DDyNJk-L/view?usp=sharing

ToddDameron

seamus wrote: »

In fact, if anything it strengthens Leo's account. MOT asks "how's tricks" and Leo ignores it. They're clearly not close friends.

That's not a logical statement. They could have chatted away underneath that message for all we know. We don't even see Leo's full response.