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Labour's Corbyn suspended for reaction to anti-semitism report

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    #272
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,099 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Bambi wrote: »
    A fella who catalogued Jezzas antiseimitic links, havent fact checked it


    I thought a lot of the antisemitism accusations were just opportunistic attacks but jesus this makes grim reading


    https://areomagazine.com/2018/08/16/anti-semitism-the-case-against-corbyn-and-the-labour-party/




    that would be similar to borris johnson's links to islamaphobia because of him being leader of the tory party which has islamaphobes.
    granted in the case of borris there is demonstrable evidence that he is himself islamaphobic or at least was, given he has made islamaphobic comments.
    corbyn on the other hand, there is not a single solitary piece of evidence to show he himself is anti-semetic, and realistically all that is contained in the article you posted is that a few individuals engaged in anti-semitism.
    they shouldn't have and were rightly suspended but it is absolutely the case that the alt right and others with certain incidious agendas jumped on this and pretended to care about anti-cemitism to push their own agenda.
    mainly to insure that there would be no labour government so as to insure brexit absolutely happened at any cost.
    even some of the stuff in the article that is claimed as anti-semitism isn't so in reality, but is more of the usual whinging because israel gets called out for it's actions.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #273
    Dyr
    Registered Users Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    end of the road wrote: »
    that would be similar to borris johnson's links to islamaphobia because of him being leader of the tory party which has islamaphobes.
    granted in the case of borris there is demonstrable evidence that he is himself islamaphobic or at least was, given he has made islamaphobic comments.
    corbyn on the other hand, there is not a single solitary piece of evidence to show he himself is anti-semetic, and realistically all that is contained in the article you posted is that a few individuals engaged in anti-semitism.
    they shouldn't have and were rightly suspended but it is absolutely the case that the alt right and others with certain incidious agendas jumped on this and pretended to care about anti-cemitism to push their own agenda.
    mainly to insure that there would be no labour government so as to insure brexit absolutely happened at any cost.
    even some of the stuff in the article that is claimed as anti-semitism isn't so in reality, but is more of the usual whinging because israel gets called out for it's actions.


    Rather than wade in to go "but...boris...but" have a read of the article, it's fairly comprehensive about Corbyns links to holocaust deniers. Most people can spot the difference between having a pop at Israel and antisemitism but apparently Corbyn never could.

    Then maybe start a thread about Boris and Islamaphobia.


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    #274
    ILoveYourVibes
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    biko wrote: »

    Throughout the Corbyn period, Jews were often asked why they were making such a fuss about all this: after all, Labour was hardly about to whip up pogroms.
    wow high standards


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    #275
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,182 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Bambi wrote: »
    Rather than wade in to go "but...boris...but" have a read of the article, it's fairly comprehensive about Corbyns links to holocaust deniers. Most people can spot the difference between having a pop at Israel and antisemitism but apparently Corbyn never could.

    Then maybe start a thread about Boris and Islamaphobia.
    I have no issue with raising the problem the Tory party has with Islam and partic Boris. He has dehumanized muslims multiple times.

    And the tory party were noticeably cold for grenfell tower which had a number of muslim residents.

    That is a totally separate issue though from Corbyn and his inability to recognize anti semitism.

    The failure of the tories to recognize islamaphobia imo is why most of their voters vote for them.

    The tories themselves mix with some very anti semitic types.

    Its a problem for all in politics.

    Both sides need to recognize it.


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    #276
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,099 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Bambi wrote: »
    Rather than wade in to go "but...boris...but" have a read of the article, it's fairly comprehensive about Corbyns links to holocaust deniers. Most people can spot the difference between having a pop at Israel and antisemitism but apparently Corbyn never could.

    Then maybe start a thread about Boris and Islamaphobia.




    i have read it hence my point.
    it's not really comprehensive at all, the links really amount to liking pages and sharing platforms with people, which if we were to take it to it's conclusion, we all have a link to the odd unsavery person because we have shared some sort of platform with them or agreed with the odd point they make.
    boards being the platform for example.
    corbyn very much knew the difference between anti-semitism and criticising israel, that was the problem, and you are right that most of us are the same.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #277
    blackwhite
    Registered Users Posts: 8,844 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    end of the road wrote: »
    i have read it hence my point.
    it's not really comprehensive at all, the links really amount to liking pages and sharing platforms with people, which if we were to take it to it's conclusion, we all have a link to the odd unsavery person because we have shared some sort of platform with them or agreed with the odd point we make.
    boards being the platform for example.

    corbyn very much knew the difference between anti-semitism and criticising israel, that was the problem, and you are right that most of us are the same.

    Get up the yard with BS like that



    https://twitter.com/lucianaberger/status/977183210051338241/photo/1

    About as blatantly anti-semitic as you can get, but Jezza was still happy to defend it.


    Corbyn's problem was exactly the same as his cult-like followers - he was happy to turn a blind eye to anti-semitism once the perpetrators were from his own side of the party.


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    #278
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,099 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    blackwhite wrote: »
    Get up the yard with BS like that



    https://twitter.com/lucianaberger/status/977183210051338241/photo/1

    About as blatantly anti-semitic as you can get, but Jezza was still happy to defend it.


    Corbyn's problem was exactly the same as his cult-like followers - he was happy to turn a blind eye to anti-semitism once the perpetrators were from his own side of the party.




    corbyn's problem was that he was going to put an end to a lot of taxpayer funded gravy trains and that could not have been allowed to happen.
    he didn't turn a blind eye to anti-semitism, he implemented the most comprehensive anti-semitism procedures ever implemented by a party to deal with the issue.
    it was those from the opposite side of the party who did all they could to try and stifle attempts to deal with the problem, yet corbyn managed to mostly deal with it.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #279
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    Bambi wrote: »
    Rather than wade in to go "but...boris...but" have a read of the article, it's fairly comprehensive about Corbyns links to holocaust deniers. Most people can spot the difference between having a pop at Israel and antisemitism but apparently Corbyn never could.

    Then maybe start a thread about Boris and Islamaphobia.

    I read as far as Jackie Walker the “Holocaust denier” and then did some research on what she actually said. It’s in her wiki page.

    Wasn’t convinced.


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    #280
    Silentcorner
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    Looks like the Labour Party has more problems then just rampant anti semitism....

    I love watching a political party that should never have succumb to radical politics or gender quotas (whichever came first)get what it deserves....

    This won't be the only political party that is in for a rough couple of years!!!


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    #281
    Danzy
    Registered Users Posts: 13,838 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Silentcorner wrote: »
    Looks like the Labour Party has more problems then just rampant anti semitism....

    I love watching a political party that should never have succumb to radical politics or gender quotas (whichever came first)get what it deserves....

    This won't be the only political party that is in for a rough couple of years!!!

    Not liking your voter base is quite a problem.

    Khalid Mahmood resigned from the shadow Cabinet in protest of the woke snobs taking over the party.


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